Which also makes no sense, as its unlikely that any of the terrorist activities of the recent decade was caused by people we could have 'kept out' legally.

Its a mistake of the right to assume that an out will respond in a wave of anti-migration legislation. At no point can I forsee a situation where everyone coming to the UK will be expected to obtain a visa, even if they're coming from France, and undergo extensive background checks.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Have to agree with you on this one hoof and I am a life long tory....Slowly going off the guy I am afraid.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

He's showing his true colours now... he hasn't come out of this latest tax haven scandal very well and appears to be at best a very slippery customer and at worst a lying cheating tax dodging double standards merchant.

Still... good job we're all in it together eh?

Where is a decent opposition party/leader when you want one?

At this rate we can only rely on Boris/Farage for straight talking, you can forget about Cameron and Osborne.... and Corbyn is not even worth heckling he is so pathetic and ridiculously out of his depth.

Those voting to stay have a bad case of EU-bola/ Brussels Syndrome....they've been captive for so long that they have lost any independent spirit they once had. They are political sheep. I am sad for them. They aren't what helped kick the industrial revolution into gear, they aren't the type of people who fought for democracy (no, they're not, because they're not doing it now) and they aren't thinking of the impact their lack of intuition will have on future generations. They are two types of people: the fundamentally misled, and the fundamentally immoral.

Indeed, half of them are just that - misled. I can handle this sort, they believe by voting to stay they ARE doing the right thing, and they genuinely feel confused. It's so frustrating, because there's nothing confusing about it. Use your intuition, ask yourself the big questions, and you will arrive at the right decision. The other half however, and they know who they are, are those harbouring their own selfish interests and to hell with the consequences for everyone else, they say! You know the sort, the hideously tanned ex-pat on a beach in Spain who hates England yet all of a sudden professes his love for the country (nowt to do with healthcare, of course). They talk of 'jobs', being 'stronger together' and 'the economy,' and they enjoy dragging people down into the detail because they know it goes nowhere fast. Like idiots, they drag you down to their level and will beat you with experience. That sort of person isn't worth the dripping off my nose. They will have to live with their choice, and I only hope they leave this world after they see the damage they have done to the lives of today's children, and not before.

But my message to fellow Brexiters is this: don't get wound up (as I have before) with those who will place their own interests above the moral choice. They will do what they wish to do, and they care not for your democratic birthright. They cannot care, because democracy, whatever they say, is what this referendum is all about. It is nothing to do with jobs, 'togetherness', the environment or intelligence sharing (that's my personal favourite)... it is about the broad, overarching principle upon which any decent, liberal society is built....that of having self-determination and direct representation. It is an inalienable right which will be severely undermined by anyone who votes to stay. There is no legitimate counter-argument to this. Not one. Nothing is more important than our right to fair representation, and remaining in the EU will only weaken that right. I do hope to god no one is bold enough to argue that basic, largely-accepted point.

Democracy is ALL anyone should concern themselves with when it comes to this vote. It overrides everything, for everyone. Ignore the so-called 'facts' which no one knows of and use your goddamned instincts, like an actual person with an innate sense of justice and reason. I think it was Kant who described the Enlightenment as 'having the courage to use your own reason'. I'd listen to Kant, and not Cameron, if I were you.

Edited by SwalecliffeEagle (11 Apr 2016 5.49pm)

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Little picture Swalecliffe.

The bigger picture is that Europe - specifically Western Europe - has functioned a lot better having common economic interests bound by agreements and treaties since the 1950's than it did not having them in the previous 1,000 years of bloodshed.

You want to build up walls again? Not for me. I'm gonna have grandkids to think about one day.

Edited by Kermit8 (11 Apr 2016 6.09pm)

Big chest and massive boobs

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out.

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.