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Originally posted by matthau

Who Q are:

[Link]

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General Flynn is a part of Q: (showing it’s not conspiracy theory

[Link]

Q military website

[Link]

Trump is simply the man they chose to let them work behind the scenes on an array of evil people and of course, elitest pedophillia . Obamagate is a real thing

And before you have a go at me, spend a bit of time looking at these links properly.

I hated trump too back in March. Not anymore

Latest Q stuff on trump having covid

[Link]

.TUX? Is that you?

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 04 Oct 20 10.51pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I wager I have helped and have more respect for blacks than you have. I also care about how this economic disaster will affect their children and their vulnerable in the third world.....You on the other hand can plot your eventual escape to the aforementioned Prague...with it's notable absence of any of them.

As for this virus, you call what's happened a 'small price to pay'. While I note the personal tragedy you have suffered, I also note the personal tragedies of many others that you are minimizing and ignoring here.

As for longer terms affects....that's a reality with many illnesses....and we don't close down the economy over them.

Not only is the logic of what we undertook in national lockdowns highly suspect it also didn't and could never have worked.

I acknowledge however that the idea of economic and national lockdowns would suit the 'control freaky' hubris of certain personalities who would think that the grand scale of restricting a nation's liberties would significantly affect the actual 'real world' physical realities of very infectious viruses.

You can't close 'open systems', you can only delay and with that in mind destroying an economy over an under 1 percent death rate is ridiculous......Hell, we can't even stop economic migrants crossing our channel.


Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Oct 2020 2.14pm)

So how much are 77 million lives worth then?

 

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 04 Oct 20 11.11pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I’ll take your wager

If you kept up you’d know I am not moving to Prague or anywhere else

Prague is full of black people.

I find ‘blacks’ an unpleasant label.

A small price to pay was irony about how you aren’t concerned about 8% of over 70 year olds dying.

The lockdown slowed the spread of the virus during which time we became FAR better at treating the sick. We also did not overload hospitals unlike e.g. Italy. That was the stated rationale.

Edited by Mapletree (04 Oct 2020 10.44pm)

Maybe you do, but I don't recall any black person I have ever met objecting to being described as 'black'. In fact, I found that was the preferred term. This "BAME" title they have been given however seems to be offensive to many.

 


Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 04 Oct 20 11.22pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Maybe you do, but I don't recall any black person I have ever met objecting to being described as 'black'. In fact, I found that was the preferred term. This "BAME" title they have been given however seems to be offensive to many.

Being described as black is fine

Calling a group of people blacks feels creepy to me. I never liked being called a Putih.

Yes, BAME isn’t particularly well liked but isn’t pejorative.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 20 11.22pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Then you are deluded.

You have zero to offer organisations that have had a lot of success emphasising their skin colour and identity group. I could reel off endless non white groups that specifically emphasise their ethnic group.

It doesn't matter what you think about 'skin colour' (it's ethnic group). What matters is how those others think about it.

Do you even think about that?

Look at how much they have gained using identity politics from middle class liberals like you. You have made plenty of statements on here that buy into their victim narrative and hence you justify their tactics.

People who think that individualistic arguments about equality are going to succeed over ethnic collectives just don't know any history.

Individualism has only ever succeeded with Europeans.

You have nothing to offer collectives except their extinction and they have nothing to offer you but their laughter.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Oct 2020 3.32pm)

Every post you write on this subject increases my suspicions about you.

Your basic premise is simply wrong. Skin colour and ethnicity are not the same thing. There are many places where you can find confirmation of this fact. I suggest you find a few and quietly reconsider.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 20 11.27pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Helmet46

Yeah but I bet you would have felt a lot more betrayed if the Govt had taken us out of the EU without one.

No I wouldn't. That's their job.

They wouldn't have done though would they?

Parliament had a majority in favour of remaining a member. No Government would have even tried to get such a bill passed. They only agreed to the referendum for the solely political reason of marginalising UKIP. What a stupid way to run a country!

 


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matthau Flag South Croydon 04 Oct 20 11.34pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

I've looked at the videos. Think it's important to call out this stuff when you can so here goes.

Q are interesting to me in that they tap in to a lot of insecurities I have time for. Why is it that the rich keep getting richer? Why is it that a billionaire class seems to be above the law? Why are so many powerful men also sexual predators with no recourse or accountability?

We live in the back end of a period of capitalism which has seen wealth disparity change more dramatically than at any point in history. Almost all social gains - in public health, welfare, utilities etc - have been severely stripped away. A system is now in place that allows wealthy people across the world to become transnational and avoid transparency or legality.

But Q lacks the publicly verifiable evidence behind most of its conspiracies. it relies far too much on anonymous tip offs rather than real critically analysed proofs.

And then it comes to the conclusion, that the solution is a man who embodied neoliberal inequities. A man who shielded his peado mates and is on record advocating sexual harrassment. A man whose first act in office to reduce the top rate of tax. A man who has lessened the restrictions on shell companies and complex tax structures, wants to eradicate social provisions from the poor even further...

Obviously when I say this, the response will be the same as all conspiracies or cultists. That I am part of the problem, I'm not opening my eyes to the truth. But all I'd say is, I'll believe it when I see trump legislating for fairer wealth distribution, support for those with disabilities, healthcare for working people.

The only way to try and twist Trump in to some kind of knight of the masses is to make up a conspiracy theory of unimaginable proportions. Thats what Q has done.

Thank you for responding

I get it with the trump stuff being linked to Epstein. But do you not think, that considering how much the dems want him out, and if you beleive like I do, the main stream media is totally corrupt and would love to do anything it could to get trump out of power, do you not think the Epstein stuff will had come out by now? They’ve tried Russia gate and failed. They will had tried this too if they thought it would hold weight.


In regard to wealth distribution- q mentioned income tax would be eradicated - yes this notion is too much for me too to swallow. Trump has now stopped payroll tax til jan and said with a wink that it may become permanent. So let’s see

Q is real. You saw the videos. Flynn talked about them openly. So often trump is giving off q signals. The coding video at the end shows this. Trump definitely is involved with them and whether they do any of the things they say, let’s see

More about why I don’t beleive that trump is involved with Epstein - yes he hung with him but In my opinion only as they were in same rich circles. Nothing more

Anyway this gives insight:

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A fantastic documentary that has had its viewing figures suppressed by YouTube - [Link]

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 20 11.39pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


Parliament could have. That is their right. But with regards to Brexit they CHOSE, by a HUGE majority, to decide to pass that decision over to the British people in a referendum. A perfectly legal political process. And to save the usual suspects the bother, a referendum is not like a plebiscite in that the result itself was not legally binding on the Government of the day. However, and once again by a HUGE majority, Parliament agreed to the Article 50 process being undertaken and now we have, after a few more twists and turns, left the EU.

At every stage, and stress tested to death by our legal system, the method by which we departed the EU has been perfectly legal and in line with British democratic principles.

Edited by Matov (04 Oct 2020 1.49pm)

Of course it was legal, but it wasn't done in the way that we do such things. It was a tactic by Cameron to marginalise UKIP as he feared they would split the Tory vote and allow Labour back in. He, and the Tory Party, never expected it to go the way it did.

Add to that the fact that Parliament failed to grasp the initiative a year ago when they could have formed a Government of National Unity, but Corbyn would not agree to stand aside. Politics got in the way of the national need, which was unforgivable.

So we end up where we are. Led by a clown who is becoming less convincing by the day, with his "adviser" throwing all the babies out of the bath just when steady hands and sound advice is what's needed most.

Beyond reality. If it wasn't for Trump's performance it would dominate the headlines more often.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 20 11.46pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

"Dexamethasone is a corticosteroid that suppresses the immune system, helpful in the later stages of severe COVID-19 when that system can go into overdrive and attack the lungs, but potentially harmful in earlier stages when the immune response is needed."

Interesting choice. So either:

-He's being improperly prescribed a drug that could make his Covid worse.

-He is in worse shape than they're telling us.

They had better hope they got the timing of administering it right.


"His oxygen has never been in the low 80s."

Same as the dancing around the oxygen point, it seems likely that it went under 90. Hence why he's on powerful steroids and experimental drugs. Whatever the eventual outcome he's clearly been worse than was publicly stated.


Edited by BlueJay (04 Oct 2020 8.34pm)

Quite!

As we know the long term effects of C19 are still being revealed but there is enough evidence already to suggest that many take a long time to recover and show fatigue, along with possible lung damage.

How will this play out when it becomes, as it must, the focus of the election talking heads in the coming weeks.

Trump acting all macho and trying to brush it off is exactly what you would expect from him. It might go down well with his base but the rest of the USA (ie those with more than half a brain) will be raising eyebrows.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 04 Oct 20 11.48pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Every post you write on this subject increases my suspicions about you.

Your basic premise is simply wrong. Skin colour and ethnicity are not the same thing. There are many places where you can find confirmation of this fact. I suggest you find a few and quietly reconsider.


That's what I said.

Go back and read the post section properly.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 20 11.50pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

I've looked at the videos. Think it's important to call out this stuff when you can so here goes.

Q are interesting to me in that they tap in to a lot of insecurities I have time for. Why is it that the rich keep getting richer? Why is it that a billionaire class seems to be above the law? Why are so many powerful men also sexual predators with no recourse or accountability?

We live in the back end of a period of capitalism which has seen wealth disparity change more dramatically than at any point in history. Almost all social gains - in public health, welfare, utilities etc - have been severely stripped away. A system is now in place that allows wealthy people across the world to become transnational and avoid transparency or legality.

But Q lacks the publicly verifiable evidence behind most of its conspiracies. it relies far too much on anonymous tip offs rather than real critically analysed proofs.

And then it comes to the conclusion, that the solution is a man who embodied neoliberal inequities. A man who shielded his peado mates and is on record advocating sexual harrassment. A man whose first act in office to reduce the top rate of tax. A man who has lessened the restrictions on shell companies and complex tax structures, wants to eradicate social provisions from the poor even further...

Obviously when I say this, the response will be the same as all conspiracies or cultists. That I am part of the problem, I'm not opening my eyes to the truth. But all I'd say is, I'll believe it when I see trump legislating for fairer wealth distribution, support for those with disabilities, healthcare for working people.

The only way to try and twist Trump in to some kind of knight of the masses is to make up a conspiracy theory of unimaginable proportions. Thats what Q has done.

Great post.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Oct 20 12.01am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


That's what I said.

Go back and read the post section properly.

Your words:-

"It doesn't matter what you think about 'skin colour' (it's ethnic group)."

Ethnicity has much more to do with culture and is a reasonable way to try to describe groups of people.

Using simplistic terms like "black" and "white" isn't because they are much too broad and tell you nothing at all about what a person believes or is likely to behave. It's unsophisticated and divisive and needs to be readicated.

 


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