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hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Feb 17 8.29am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
It's only an overreaction if all of the fears prove to false. I see Trump has nominated an historical racist to be his Attorney General but everyone over there should keep quiet about it and just accept it, it appears to politicos such as yourself. 'Racist' - because he made a joke about the KKK! It will be difficult to find anyone to nominate that would not be considered 'racist' by the narrow 'standards' of the (predominately white) liberal/left. Edited by hedgehog50 (08 Feb 2017 8.31am)
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Kermit8 Hevon 08 Feb 17 9.21am | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
'Racist' - because he made a joke about the KKK! It will be difficult to find anyone to nominate that would not be considered 'racist' by the narrow 'standards' of the (predominately white) liberal/left. Edited by hedgehog50 (08 Feb 2017 8.31am) You need to acquaint yourself with his treatment of older black voters and his virulent homophobia. Plus he said 'I think the KKK were alright...' then he mentioned something about them smoking marijuana. You side with these type of people purely because like attracts like.
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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Feb 17 9.51am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You need to acquaint yourself with his treatment of older black voters and his virulent homophobia. Plus he said 'I think the KKK were alright...' then he mentioned something about them smoking marijuana. You side with these type of people purely because like attracts like. Setting aside the detail. Trumps's election and Brexit are a back lash by the silent majority who were tired as what they saw as an endless pandering to minority interests at their expense. People are not all fools and they see huge levels of immigration,often illegal in the US, and they know why it is being allowed to happen and what the consequences will be. You were warned of the consequences of your puritanical absolute truths and your moral certainties and now we have Trump pandering to the God fearing, gun toting red necks.
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Kermit8 Hevon 08 Feb 17 10.18am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Setting aside the detail. Trumps's election and Brexit are a back lash by the silent majority who were tired as what they saw as an endless pandering to minority interests at their expense. People are not all fools and they see huge levels of immigration,often illegal in the US, and they know why it is being allowed to happen and what the consequences will be. You were warned of the consequences of your puritanical absolute truths and your moral certainties and now we have Trump pandering to the God fearing, gun toting red necks. 1) Trump got a minority of votes 2) Not everyone voted for Brexit/Trump on the 'anti-immigration' ticket but lots did granted. What a false dawn and pyrrhic victory that will turn out to be unless we go all North Korea and close ourselves off. 3) Enabling the far right and/or their views to become mainstream is not an equal reaction.
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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Feb 17 10.21am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
1) Trump got a minority of votes 2) Not everyone voted for Brexit/Trump on the 'anti-immigration' ticket but lots did granted. What a false dawn and pyrrhic victory that will turn out to be unless we go all North Korea and close ourselves off. 3) Enabling the far right and/or their views to become mainstream is not an equal reaction. As I suspected. You learned nothing.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Feb 17 10.24am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You need to acquaint yourself with his treatment of older black voters and his virulent homophobia. Plus he said 'I think the KKK were alright...' then he mentioned something about them smoking marijuana. You side with these type of people purely because like attracts like. I'm not siding with him; to say I am is like saying you are siding with Islamic terrorists when you post your opinions about them. I'm merely pointing out that what you are saying is distorted nonsense (as usual). One African-American lawyer testified that Sessions had joked that he thought the Ku Klux Klan was "OK until I found out they smoked pot". (note the word 'joked') Bot of course you interpret this as him dressing in white sheets, burning crosses and lynching people. Also in a Senate hearing he Mr Sessions urged government to send the message that "good people don’t smoke marijuana", and in another hearing, that marijuana cannot be safer than alcohol because "Lady Gaga says she’s addicted to it and it’s not harmless." Edited by hedgehog50 (08 Feb 2017 10.47am)
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Kermit8 Hevon 08 Feb 17 10.45am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
As I suspected. You learned nothing. I have learnt that those of an obnoxious, nasty bent will hide in the open, camouflage their darkest thoughts, but manipulate others into believing their voice is the true voice and the right path to follow: £350million a week toward the NHS, anyone?
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hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Feb 17 10.48am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I have learnt that those of an obnoxious, nasty bent will hide in the open, camouflage their darkest thoughts, but manipulate others into believing their voice is the true voice and the right path to follow: £350million a week toward the NHS, anyone? Why bring Ken Livingstone into this?
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 08 Feb 17 11.02am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I don't get involved in political debates on HOL for the simple reason they would turn into tedious WILLO threads and we have had enough of those thank you very much.Besides I get involved in enough political 'Speak' with my cronies outside of HOL ! All I will say is that I totally agree with all the criticism labelled against 'Bercow' for his comments. I'll leave it at this - no more comments from me on this political thread. They always say Willo never argue about Politics or religion as it goes no where and just gets heated.
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Hoof Hearted 08 Feb 17 11.12am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
1) Trump got a minority of votes 2) Not everyone voted for Brexit/Trump on the 'anti-immigration' ticket but lots did granted. What a false dawn and pyrrhic victory that will turn out to be unless we go all North Korea and close ourselves off. 3) Enabling the far right and/or their views to become mainstream is not an equal reaction. But he got sufficient votes to win the election contest according to the rules as laid out in the USA constitution though Kermy! Are you contesting his legitimacy to be president under the law?
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Hoof Hearted 08 Feb 17 11.15am | |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
Ridiculously and obviously wrong. How so? You can't fault the maths!
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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Feb 17 11.19am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I have learnt that those of an obnoxious, nasty bent will hide in the open, camouflage their darkest thoughts, but manipulate others into believing their voice is the true voice and the right path to follow: £350million a week toward the NHS, anyone? That could be applied to any politician. And would you get over it. As if the Remain campaign didn't get figures out of thin air as well.
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