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Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (04 Oct 2020 12.30am)

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

Indeed. And Trump may be fine in a matter of days but we do know from his chief of staff that it is, or was, far from a case of breezing through it and he was put on oxygen at the White House not as a precaution but because his "blood oxygen level dropped rapidly" and "we were real concerned".

Edited by BlueJay (04 Oct 2020 7.22am)

I would view a 92 percent survival rate amongst the most ill and vulnerable within society as not a significant risk of death.

However, it is a risk and some precautions for that group were always justified.

However, what the karens and kens have done to our economy has been disastrous and will have caused and contributed to many more deaths amongst all age ranges covering many different causes.....unemployment, for example, causes misery and contributes to increased levels of death.

We are in a self made recession and the poor can't afford the price rises to feed their families. People have missed serious diagnoses, that will mean death for them. All for a lockdown that only delays infection in the hope of a vaccine that can promise nothing as a silver bullet.

Some people supported the actions that led to these consequences. I am not one of them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Oct 2020 8.20am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yes, such a small price to pay. You seem to have overlooked the longer term effects of having had Covid-19, especially for older people. Probably also not really important if it gets in the way of you visiting all your Black mates, eh?

I wager I have helped and have more respect for blacks than you have. I also care about how this economic disaster will affect their children and their vulnerable in the third world.....You on the other hand can plot your eventual escape to the aforementioned Prague...with it's notable absence of any of them.

As for this virus, you call what's happened a 'small price to pay'. While I note the personal tragedy you have suffered, I also note the personal tragedies of many others that you are minimizing and ignoring here.

As for longer terms affects....that's a reality with many illnesses....and we don't close down the economy over them.

Not only is the logic of what we undertook in national lockdowns highly suspect it also didn't and could never have worked.

I acknowledge however that the idea of economic and national lockdowns would suit the 'control freaky' hubris of certain personalities who would think that the grand scale of restricting a nation's liberties would significantly affect the actual 'real world' physical realities of very infectious viruses.

You can't close 'open systems', you can only delay and with that in mind destroying an economy over an under 1 percent death rate is ridiculous......Hell, we can't even stop economic migrants crossing our channel.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Oct 2020 2.14pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Who’s complaining? Reading your relentless twaddle cheers me up in the mornings, although a change of record occasionally wouldn’t go amiss