Thanks. I have. It's very interesting, however, as with everything, could be used, rather incompetently, as a political weapon.

There are numerous economic and social issues.

Look at the amount of remittances (money wired "home" ) that's leaving the country. It's billions and some of this is undoubtedly money earmarked for "social care" and paid out in benefits.

The stats related to this also reveal the relatively low number of immigrants who are actually working and the even lower number who are actually earning enough not to be a burden on the state. The threshold for this is surprisingly high.

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I believe there is also widespread corruption from what I've been told e.g. people renting out multiple council properties under multiple names, abuse of the child care provisions (people setting up bogus nursery's and re-directing funds/salaries elsewhere) and this is all enabled by people on the inside of our local councils.

Then there is the fact that all this is at the expense of people that have paid into the system all their lives. Look at the current crisis in elderly care. They are having to choose between heating or eating and many of our elderly are just dying.

We have block voting for socialist parties along with electoral fraud that increases and accelerates the ability for all this to happen and eventually will make it inevitable that we get a socialist government.

We have crime, we have social division and the facts of all of this are hidden from us and cannot be discussed.

At the end of the day the reason this is happening is partly because it depresses wages for big business but mainly to artificially inflate property prices that our entire economy (and that of the west) now rests on.

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And I thought it was Mario.

Are you on drugs?

Labour is promising ridiculous spending that they cannot possibly deliver. It is laughable.
This is not the business friendly party under Blair. This is Corbyn's 1970s, union controlled, Marxist backward ego trip.

As may be but when they start hitting the top 10% as the top 5 isnt enough that's what's worrying.
Then pensions.
Then what else.
Remember socialism makes people equal.
Equally kin poor.
Dont be fooled by the wealth gap bull crap.
Capitalism takes more people out of poverty than socialism.
Fact.

So now it's the top 10%. What i they start raising taxes on the 100%?
Capitalism has an ability to create an enormous amount of wealth and innovation, this is true, but what we have, which the USSR/Russia or China did or do not have, are democratic elections.

The not realised side effect of capitalism is socialism though. Look at the NHS, pensions, minimum wages, bank bailouts, welfare. Isn't all that evidence of some socialism?

If you would prefer to not have any of that, then, I think you would be in the minority, but, if you want an NHS and a pension when you retire, then you will need to contribute.