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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Mar 23 10.26am
Originally posted by georgenorman They have accepted that their strategy of ignoring streams of reports telling them what was going on wasn’t effective! So you think it a possibility that it was considered the ‘long-term route to the best outcome’! Far from absurd?! It is clearly absurd to try to dress up the police incompetence and disgraceful lack of responsibility in this matter as some sort of cunning plan. If people can be prosecuted for standing still and silently praying, then surely the police involved in this should be prosecuted for standing silently, ignoring children being raped when they were well aware of it. Of course they regard their critics' activities as unhelpful – unhelpful to their efforts of covering up their culpability. Edited by georgenorman (21 Mar 2023 9.19am) I actually believe one of the fathers was arrested for reporting the crimes and following up when nothing happened. So you were actually punished for reporting Muslims. Red and Blue Army!
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ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Mar 23 10.26am

Originally posted by georgenorman

They have accepted that their strategy of ignoring streams of reports telling them what was going on wasn’t effective!

So you think it a possibility that it was considered the ‘long-term route to the best outcome’!

Far from absurd?! It is clearly absurd to try to dress up the police incompetence and disgraceful lack of responsibility in this matter as some sort of cunning plan.

If people can be prosecuted for standing still and silently praying, then surely the police involved in this should be prosecuted for standing silently, ignoring children being raped when they were well aware of it.

Of course they regard their critics' activities as unhelpful – unhelpful to their efforts of covering up their culpability.

Edited by georgenorman (21 Mar 2023 9.19am)

I actually believe one of the fathers was arrested for reporting the crimes and following up when nothing happened. So you were actually punished for reporting Muslims.

Red and Blue Army!

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georgenorman 21 Mar 23 10.51am
Originally posted by ASCPFC I actually believe one of the fathers was arrested for reporting the crimes and following up when nothing happened. So you were actually punished for reporting Muslims. He was probably silently praying that they would do something to protect his daughter. - as we know, silently praying is a crime these days.
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georgenorman

21 Mar 23 10.51am

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I actually believe one of the fathers was arrested for reporting the crimes and following up when nothing happened. So you were actually punished for reporting Muslims.

He was probably silently praying that they would do something to protect his daughter. - as we know, silently praying is a crime these days.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Mar 23 11.40am
Originally posted by georgenorman He was probably silently praying that they would do something to protect his daughter. - as we know, silently praying is a crime these days. I just wanted to point out that as time goes by and more is brushed under the carpet - right minded individuals did report this to the relevant authorities and were threatened as racists. Some were punished. The Labour MP was deselected due to reporting this I believe. It stinks as pandering to fanatic, racist scum who believe their perversion of religion and law makes them untouchable. I don't blame anyone for being angry or wanting to take the law into their own hands. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Mar 23 11.40am

Originally posted by georgenorman

He was probably silently praying that they would do something to protect his daughter. - as we know, silently praying is a crime these days.

I just wanted to point out that as time goes by and more is brushed under the carpet - right minded individuals did report this to the relevant authorities and were threatened as racists. Some were punished. The Labour MP was deselected due to reporting this I believe. It stinks as pandering to fanatic, racist scum who believe their perversion of religion and law makes them untouchable. I don't blame anyone for being angry or wanting to take the law into their own hands.

Red and Blue Army!

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georgenorman 21 Mar 23 11.55am
Originally posted by ASCPFC I just wanted to point out that as time goes by and more is brushed under the carpet - right minded individuals did report this to the relevant authorities and were threatened as racists. Some were punished. The Labour MP was deselected due to reporting this I believe. It stinks as pandering to fanatic, racist scum who believe their perversion of religion and law makes them untouchable. I don't blame anyone for being angry or wanting to take the law into their own hands. Agreed. The new left think that it is more important to pander to and support various minority groups than to protect children from abuse.
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georgenorman

21 Mar 23 11.55am

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Agreed. The new left think that it is more important to pander to and support various minority groups than to protect children from abuse.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 21 Mar 23 7.40pm
does this story look familiar ? the comments underneath the clip are rather revealing. [Link] [Link] Edited by PalazioVecchio (21 Mar 2023 7.43pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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does this story look familiar ? the comments underneath the clip are rather revealing.

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (21 Mar 2023 7.43pm)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Mar 23 8.39pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I actually believe one of the fathers was arrested for reporting the crimes and following up when nothing happened. So you were actually punished for reporting Muslims. Is there any actual evidence for this? If so I would be pleased to see it, and it's context. It sounds like an apocryphal story to me. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 21 Mar 23 8.39pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I actually believe one of the fathers was arrested for reporting the crimes and following up when nothing happened. So you were actually punished for reporting Muslims.

Is there any actual evidence for this? If so I would be pleased to see it, and it's context. It sounds like an apocryphal story to me.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Mar 23 8.47pm
Originally posted by georgenorman He was probably silently praying that they would do something to protect his daughter. - as we know, silently praying is a crime these days. How many times does it need to be said that nobody has been, or would be, arrested for "silently praying"? What they were arrested for is acting in a way that was considered potentially intimidatory, specifically and only, in an area covered by a restraining order. Got it now? For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 21 Mar 23 8.47pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

He was probably silently praying that they would do something to protect his daughter. - as we know, silently praying is a crime these days.

How many times does it need to be said that nobody has been, or would be, arrested for "silently praying"?

What they were arrested for is acting in a way that was considered potentially intimidatory, specifically and only, in an area covered by a restraining order.

Got it now?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Mar 23 8.58pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I just wanted to point out that as time goes by and more is brushed under the carpet - right minded individuals did report this to the relevant authorities and were threatened as racists. Some were punished. The Labour MP was deselected due to reporting this I believe. It stinks as pandering to fanatic, racist scum who believe their perversion of religion and law makes them untouchable. I don't blame anyone for being angry or wanting to take the law into their own hands. Firstly, I don't believe anyone, especially the police, has, or would ever, pander to any fanatic racist scum. They may have followed a different strategy, but that's not pandering. Secondly, no-one ever has an excuse, whatever the perceived provocation, for wanting to take the law into their own hands. There are always legal ways available. You just need to be determined and tenacious. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 21 Mar 23 8.58pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Firstly, I don't believe anyone, especially the police, has, or would ever, pander to any fanatic racist scum. They may have followed a different strategy, but that's not pandering.

Secondly, no-one ever has an excuse, whatever the perceived provocation, for wanting to take the law into their own hands. There are always legal ways available. You just need to be determined and tenacious.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 21 Mar 23 9.00pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Is there any actual evidence for this? If so I would be pleased to see it, and it's context. It sounds like an apocryphal story to me. From the Independent Inquiry into CSE in Rotherham 1997-2013 5.9 In two of the cases we read, fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested themselves when police were called to the scene. In a small number of cases (which have already received media attention) the victims were arrested for offences such as breach of the peace or being drunk and disorderly, with no action taken against the perpetrators of rape and sexual assault against children.
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Teddy Eagle

21 Mar 23 9.00pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Is there any actual evidence for this? If so I would be pleased to see it, and it's context. It sounds like an apocryphal story to me.

From the Independent Inquiry into CSE in Rotherham 1997-2013

5.9 In two of the cases we read, fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to
remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested
themselves when police were called to the scene. In a small number of cases (which
have already received media attention) the victims were arrested for offences such
as breach of the peace or being drunk and disorderly, with no action taken against
the perpetrators of rape and sexual assault against children.

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 21 Mar 23 9.12pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle From the Independent Inquiry into CSE in Rotherham 1997-2013 5.9 In two of the cases we read, fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested themselves when police were called to the scene. In a small number of cases (which have already received media attention) the victims were arrested for offences such as breach of the peace or being drunk and disorderly, with no action taken against the perpetrators of rape and sexual assault against children. Question for WE....if it was your daughter, being abused and raped, you knew where she was, you would just call the police and wait while they made up their minds???? Or would you act (like most fathers) and get seriously involved??
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the silurian

The garden of England.(not really) 21 Mar 23 9.12pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

From the Independent Inquiry into CSE in Rotherham 1997-2013

Question for WE....if it was your daughter, being abused and raped, you knew where she was, you would just call the police and wait while they made up their minds???? Or would you act (like most fathers) and get seriously involved??

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Mar 23 9.51pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle From the Independent Inquiry into CSE in Rotherham 1997-2013 5.9 In two of the cases we read, fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested themselves when police were called to the scene. In a small number of cases (which have already received media attention) the victims were arrested for offences such as breach of the peace or being drunk and disorderly, with no action taken against the perpetrators of rape and sexual assault against children. Thanks. That report though is light on context. We don't know why the fathers were arrested, what happened before or after, or what else the police did. Likewise, we don't know whether the victims were actually arrested for their own protection, if they were refusing to leave of their own free will, Nor do we know why no action was taken against the alleged perpetrators. The problem with allegations is that nasty thing called evidence and if the victims don't see themselves as victims, then gathering it in sufficient quality to gain convictions isn't as easy as some seem to imagine. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 21 Mar 23 9.51pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

From the Independent Inquiry into CSE in Rotherham 1997-2013

Thanks. That report though is light on context.

We don't know why the fathers were arrested, what happened before or after, or what else the police did.

Likewise, we don't know whether the victims were actually arrested for their own protection, if they were refusing to leave of their own free will,

Nor do we know why no action was taken against the alleged perpetrators. The problem with allegations is that nasty thing called evidence and if the victims don't see themselves as victims, then gathering it in sufficient quality to gain convictions isn't as easy as some seem to imagine.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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georgenorman 21 Mar 23 10.07pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle How many times does it need to be said that nobody has been, or would be, arrested for "silently praying"? What they were arrested for is acting in a way that was considered potentially intimidatory, specifically and only, in an area covered by a restraining order. Got it now? She was silently standing in a street that she was not banned from and was perhaps silently praying. By any sane standards that cannot be interpreted as intimidatory. Got it now?
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georgenorman

21 Mar 23 10.07pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

How many times does it need to be said that nobody has been, or would be, arrested for "silently praying"?

What they were arrested for is acting in a way that was considered potentially intimidatory, specifically and only, in an area covered by a restraining order.

Got it now?

She was silently standing in a street that she was not banned from and was perhaps silently praying. By any sane standards that cannot be interpreted as intimidatory.

Got it now?

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