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Penge Eagle Beckenham 10 Jan 19 10.10pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol takes one maniac whoever they may be The 7/7 bombers were British, whats your point? Agree, so why increase the chances?
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Penge Eagle

Beckenham 10 Jan 19 10.10pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

takes one maniac whoever they may be

The 7/7 bombers were British, whats your point?

Agree, so why increase the chances?

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W12 10 Jan 19 10.37pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol takes one maniac whoever they may be The 7/7 bombers were British, whats your point? You mean they had a british passport not that they necessarily exhibited any overt signs of Britishness I.e. loyalty to their country of birth and other such trifles. Whether they were British or not the likes of you don’t want to deal with that particular threat either way so that’s somewhat of a moot point.
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W12 10 Jan 19 10.37pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

takes one maniac whoever they may be

The 7/7 bombers were British, whats your point?

You mean they had a british passport not that they necessarily exhibited any overt signs of Britishness I.e. loyalty to their country of birth and other such trifles.

Whether they were British or not the likes of you don’t want to deal with that particular threat either way so that’s somewhat of a moot point.

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Pussay Patrol 11 Jan 19 6.00am
Originally posted by W12 You mean they had a british passport not that they necessarily exhibited any overt signs of Britishness I.e. loyalty to their country of birth and other such trifles. Whether they were British or not the likes of you don’t want to deal with that particular threat either way so that’s somewhat of a moot point. Of course I do. Stop illegal wars and bombing other countries, that would help Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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Pussay Patrol

11 Jan 19 6.00am

Originally posted by W12

You mean they had a british passport not that they necessarily exhibited any overt signs of Britishness I.e. loyalty to their country of birth and other such trifles.

Whether they were British or not the likes of you don’t want to deal with that particular threat either way so that’s somewhat of a moot point.

Of course I do. Stop illegal wars and bombing other countries, that would help

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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cryrst The garden of England 11 Jan 19 6.30am
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Of course I do. Stop illegal wars and bombing other countries, that would help When did we bomb iran then as currently thats the new arrivals country of departure. Ironically maybe also the least likely not to want to assimilate into society as theirs is relatively western.
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The garden of England 11 Jan 19 6.30am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Of course I do. Stop illegal wars and bombing other countries, that would help

When did we bomb iran then as currently thats the new arrivals country of departure.
Ironically maybe also the least likely not to want to assimilate into society as theirs is relatively western.

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Spiderman Horsham 11 Jan 19 11.22am
Originally posted by silvertop I do get fed some info from someone close who also works for the border force and I am aware there is a very serious problem with our borders from non EU migrants. I just don't think the recent "flood" of Iranians across the channel so few in numbers they could fit on a bus constitutes a crisis. Your deduction is correct but... these are only the ones that are caught/reported on. What about the nightly arrivals at Newhaven/Gatwick and probably every other port? A small trickle may be reported but they are just the tip of the iceberg (look what happened to the Titanic when it took on an iceberg). I feel people should distinguish between genuine asylum seekers (which are few) and economic migrants (that are the majority)
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Horsham 11 Jan 19 11.22am

Originally posted by silvertop

I do get fed some info from someone close who also works for the border force and I am aware there is a very serious problem with our borders from non EU migrants.

I just don't think the recent "flood" of Iranians across the channel so few in numbers they could fit on a bus constitutes a crisis.

Your deduction is correct but... these are only the ones that are caught/reported on. What about the nightly arrivals at Newhaven/Gatwick and probably every other port? A small trickle may be reported but they are just the tip of the iceberg (look what happened to the Titanic when it took on an iceberg). I feel people should distinguish between genuine asylum seekers (which are few) and economic migrants (that are the majority)

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Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jan 19 11.47am
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Of course I do. Stop illegal wars and bombing other countries, that would help That is such a stock answer. Did America bomb Mexico? Get it into your head. Most migrants are opportunists and move for economic reasons. When you finally accept this fact, you might get off your moral high horse.
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11 Jan 19 11.47am

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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Of course I do. Stop illegal wars and bombing other countries, that would help

That is such a stock answer.

Did America bomb Mexico?

Get it into your head. Most migrants are opportunists and move for economic reasons.

When you finally accept this fact, you might get off your moral high horse.

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 11 Jan 19 12.56pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Of course I do. Stop illegal wars and bombing other countries, that would help and you would just open the doors to everyone who wants to come to the UK? We didnt bomb Iran did we/? Yet they all want to come to the UK? Why? Benefits? Houses? Please tell us why the want to come here, from France which as far as I know isnt a war zone (except at weekends in Paris)
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The garden of England.(not really) 11 Jan 19 12.56pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Of course I do. Stop illegal wars and bombing other countries, that would help

and you would just open the doors to everyone who wants to come to the UK? We didnt bomb Iran did we/? Yet they all want to come to the UK? Why? Benefits? Houses? Please tell us why the want to come here, from France which as far as I know isnt a war zone (except at weekends in Paris)

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silvertop Portishead 11 Jan 19 5.53pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Your deduction is correct but... these are only the ones that are caught/reported on. What about the nightly arrivals at Newhaven/Gatwick and probably every other port? A small trickle may be reported but they are just the tip of the iceberg (look what happened to the Titanic when it took on an iceberg). I feel people should distinguish between genuine asylum seekers (which are few) and economic migrants (that are the majority) Hmm I suspect this could morph into one of those heated debates were we ultimately agree that we actually agree My problem is the media frenzy over the handful slipping across the channel and the vile political opportunism that followed it. Btw Iranians?? I get the border control and resoutces argument. However does not the threat to western countries from terrorism not come from sunni Muslims? Iranians are shiite, no?
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Portishead 11 Jan 19 5.53pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Hmm I suspect this could morph into one of those heated debates were we ultimately agree that we actually agree

My problem is the media frenzy over the handful slipping across the channel and the vile political opportunism that followed it.

Btw Iranians?? I get the border control and resoutces argument. However does not the threat to western countries from terrorism not come from sunni Muslims? Iranians are shiite, no?

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steeleye20 Croydon 11 Jan 19 5.59pm
Originally posted by silvertop Hmm I suspect this could morph into one of those heated debates were we ultimately agree that we actually agree My problem is the media frenzy over the handful slipping across the channel and the vile political opportunism that followed it. Btw Iranians?? I get the border control and resoutces argument. However does not the threat to western countries from terrorism not come from sunni Muslims? Iranians are shiite, no? Vile political opportunism that followed it. Quite so, but they are only representing the voters. You know 'This Happy Breed' ! A pox on them
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steeleye20

Croydon 11 Jan 19 5.59pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Hmm I suspect this could morph into one of those heated debates were we ultimately agree that we actually agree

My problem is the media frenzy over the handful slipping across the channel and the vile political opportunism that followed it.

Btw Iranians?? I get the border control and resoutces argument. However does not the threat to western countries from terrorism not come from sunni Muslims? Iranians are shiite, no?

Vile political opportunism that followed it.

Quite so, but they are only representing the voters.

You know 'This Happy Breed' !

A pox on them

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elgrande bedford 11 Jan 19 7.09pm
I think I heard today that from 2010 till the start of this year,80,000 asylum seekers have been refused status,and only 26.000 have been sent back...the others have done a magic trick and disappeared. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 11 Jan 19 7.09pm

I think I heard today that from 2010 till the start of this year,80,000 asylum seekers have been refused status,and only 26.000 have been sent back...the others have done a magic trick and disappeared.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Spiderman Horsham 11 Jan 19 10.44pm
Originally posted by silvertop Hmm I suspect this could morph into one of those heated debates were we ultimately agree that we actually agree My problem is the media frenzy over the handful slipping across the channel and the vile political opportunism that followed it. Btw Iranians?? I get the border control and resoutces argument. However does not the threat to western countries from terrorism not come from sunni Muslims? Iranians are shiite, no? The majority are, yes. They have a persecuted minority... the Bahai's but I suspect the majority of this faith left Iran many years ago. My biggest issue with undocumented arrivals, as Istated earlier, is that we do not know who they are or, indeed, in some cases what country they are from. Unfortunately the veracity of documentation some supply is in doubt, having said that "genuine" documentation is readily available (at the right price) in many countries. Indeed I have my own genuine death certificate which was purchased whilst in the sub-continent (offical paper/official seals etc)
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Horsham 11 Jan 19 10.44pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Hmm I suspect this could morph into one of those heated debates were we ultimately agree that we actually agree

My problem is the media frenzy over the handful slipping across the channel and the vile political opportunism that followed it.

Btw Iranians?? I get the border control and resoutces argument. However does not the threat to western countries from terrorism not come from sunni Muslims? Iranians are shiite, no?

The majority are, yes. They have a persecuted minority... the Bahai's but I suspect the majority of this faith left Iran many years ago. My biggest issue with undocumented arrivals, as Istated earlier, is that we do not know who they are or, indeed, in some cases what country they are from.
Unfortunately the veracity of documentation some supply is in doubt, having said that "genuine" documentation is readily available (at the right price) in many countries. Indeed I have my own genuine death certificate which was purchased whilst in the sub-continent (offical paper/official seals etc)

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chateauferret 12 Jan 19 1.10pm
Originally posted by silvertop Btw Iranians?? I get the border control and resoutces argument. However does not the threat to western countries from terrorism not come from sunni Muslims? Iranians are shiite, no? They were in the World Cup, yes. ============ The Ferret ============
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chateauferret

12 Jan 19 1.10pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Btw Iranians?? I get the border control and resoutces argument. However does not the threat to western countries from terrorism not come from sunni Muslims? Iranians are shiite, no?

They were in the World Cup, yes.

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