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Percy of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 21 Nov 15 7.38pm Send a Private Message to Percy of Peckham Add Percy of Peckham as a friend

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 20 Nov 2015 12.36pm

After watching the very annoying Question Time last night I have concluded that many people seem to be focused on what ISIL want us to do and what will happen after any assault on them and the loss of lives etc. This is all the language of fear. We must not worry about what ISIL want and how they are playing us, we must destroy them in the territory they hold and we must round up and imprison or deport anyone involved with them. There is no negotiation to be had, there is no easy fix. There is no chance of coming out of this without innocent lives being lost, maybe even here in Britain.
We must form a coalition of forces with the interested parties and get the job done. If we can avoid putting our own troops on the ground then that will be a major result. After all it is not Europe who stands to lose the most if ISIL remain effective in the region.
Time to stop poncing around with what ifs and get the job done with all means necessary.


I suspect next week's Spending Review has not made any provision for a land assault on ISIS. However, we have flogged some of MOD's London estate to the Arabs to turn into a 5* hotel, sacked soldiers so we can sell off their barracks and mothballed a lot of stuff that flew or floated. Austerity? You ain't seen nothing yet.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Nov 15 7.40pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Quote Mr Palaceman at 21 Nov 2015 7.04pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 21 Nov 2015 10.50am

Quote nickgusset at 21 Nov 2015 10.48am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 21 Nov 2015 10.43am

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 20 Nov 2015 3.17pm

Quote ghosteagle at 20 Nov 2015 1.25pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 20 Nov 2015 12.36pm

After watching the very annoying Question Time last night I have concluded that many people seem to be focused on what ISIL want us to do and what will happen after any assault on them and the loss of lives etc. This is all the language of fear. We must not worry about what ISIL want and how they are playing us, we must destroy them in the territory they hold and we must round up and imprison or deport anyone involved with them. There is no negotiation to be had, there is no easy fix. There is no chance of coming out of this without innocent lives being lost, maybe even here in Britain.
We must form a coalition of forces with the interested parties and get the job done. If we can avoid putting our own troops on the ground then that will be a major result. After all it is not Europe who stands to lose the most if ISIL remain effective in the region.
Time to stop poncing around with what ifs and get the job done with all means necessary.

The plot to Expendables 4???


Not sure Stallone would use "poncing". Statham might I suppose.


Tom Cruise's Mission Impossible team (incl Simon Pegg) could be deployed to sort this out quite quickly/efficiently..... or Dangermouse... International Rescue.... Scooby Doo?


Team America?


Fcuk Yeah!!!!

Why let the Yanks have the glory when we have Bond. Send in Gandalf with his wooden stick for backup.


I spoke to steven Segal earlier today and he said that none of you are taking this seriously enough.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Nov 15 7.42pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Quote Percy of Peckham at 21 Nov 2015 7.38pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 20 Nov 2015 12.36pm

After watching the very annoying Question Time last night I have concluded that many people seem to be focused on what ISIL want us to do and what will happen after any assault on them and the loss of lives etc. This is all the language of fear. We must not worry about what ISIL want and how they are playing us, we must destroy them in the territory they hold and we must round up and imprison or deport anyone involved with them. There is no negotiation to be had, there is no easy fix. There is no chance of coming out of this without innocent lives being lost, maybe even here in Britain.
We must form a coalition of forces with the interested parties and get the job done. If we can avoid putting our own troops on the ground then that will be a major result. After all it is not Europe who stands to lose the most if ISIL remain effective in the region.
Time to stop poncing around with what ifs and get the job done with all means necessary.


I suspect next week's Spending Review has not made any provision for a land assault on ISIS. However, we have flogged some of MOD's London estate to the Arabs to turn into a 5* hotel, sacked soldiers so we can sell off their barracks and mothballed a lot of stuff that flew or floated. Austerity? You ain't seen nothing yet.


Yawn.

Austerity, you don't know what it means.

 

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-TUX- Flag Alphabettispaghetti 21 Nov 15 8.15pm Send a Private Message to -TUX- Add -TUX- as a friend

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 21 Nov 2015 7.42pm

Quote Percy of Peckham at 21 Nov 2015 7.38pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 20 Nov 2015 12.36pm

After watching the very annoying Question Time last night I have concluded that many people seem to be focused on what ISIL want us to do and what will happen after any assault on them and the loss of lives etc. This is all the language of fear. We must not worry about what ISIL want and how they are playing us, we must destroy them in the territory they hold and we must round up and imprison or deport anyone involved with them. There is no negotiation to be had, there is no easy fix. There is no chance of coming out of this without innocent lives being lost, maybe even here in Britain.
We must form a coalition of forces with the interested parties and get the job done. If we can avoid putting our own troops on the ground then that will be a major result. After all it is not Europe who stands to lose the most if ISIL remain effective in the region.
Time to stop poncing around with what ifs and get the job done with all means necessary.


I suspect next week's Spending Review has not made any provision for a land assault on ISIS. However, we have flogged some of MOD's London estate to the Arabs to turn into a 5* hotel, sacked soldiers so we can sell off their barracks and mothballed a lot of stuff that flew or floated. Austerity? You ain't seen nothing yet.


Yawn.

Austerity, you don't know what it means.


The poor paying for the mistakes (cough cough) of the rich?

 


Time to move forward together.

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Quote -TUX- at 21 Nov 2015 8.15pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 21 Nov 2015 7.42pm

Quote Percy of Peckham at 21 Nov 2015 7.38pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 20 Nov 2015 12.36pm

After watching the very annoying Question Time last night I have concluded that many people seem to be focused on what ISIL want us to do and what will happen after any assault on them and the loss of lives etc. This is all the language of fear. We must not worry about what ISIL want and how they are playing us, we must destroy them in the territory they hold and we must round up and imprison or deport anyone involved with them. There is no negotiation to be had, there is no easy fix. There is no chance of coming out of this without innocent lives being lost, maybe even here in Britain.
We must form a coalition of forces with the interested parties and get the job done. If we can avoid putting our own troops on the ground then that will be a major result. After all it is not Europe who stands to lose the most if ISIL remain effective in the region.
Time to stop poncing around with what ifs and get the job done with all means necessary.


I suspect next week's Spending Review has not made any provision for a land assault on ISIS. However, we have flogged some of MOD's London estate to the Arabs to turn into a 5* hotel, sacked soldiers so we can sell off their barracks and mothballed a lot of stuff that flew or floated. Austerity? You ain't seen nothing yet.


Yawn.

Austerity, you don't know what it means.


The poor paying for the mistakes (cough cough) of the rich?

Because the "poor" would do a much better job of running things and wouldn't ever get greedy at all.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Nov 15 11.51pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The responsibility of a government is to represent all of its people.

Wealth creators are obviously very important but its vital that the above sentence is remembered and while I'm of the right I feel it's a sentiment that some on my side of politics can forget or diminish.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 22 Nov 15 12.16am

Quote Stirlingsays at 21 Nov 2015 11.51pm

The responsibility of a government is to represent all of its people.

Wealth creators are obviously very important but its vital that the above sentence is remembered and while I'm of the right I feel it's a sentiment that some on my side of politics can forget or diminish.


I see you right there. Certain amount of snobbishness and/or disdain for the less well off on this site sometimes.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 22 Nov 15 12.27am

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lolz

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 Nov 15 1.43pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 22 Nov 2015 12.16am

Quote Stirlingsays at 21 Nov 2015 11.51pm

The responsibility of a government is to represent all of its people.

Wealth creators are obviously very important but its vital that the above sentence is remembered and while I'm of the right I feel it's a sentiment that some on my side of politics can forget or diminish.


I see you right there. Certain amount of snobbishness and/or disdain for the less well off on this site sometimes.

Poverty is relative. All of us are poor to someone I'm sure. Too much self righteous bleeding heart whining on this site.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 Nov 15 2.06pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

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Just seen this article which goes to the heart of the debate regarding the hypocrisy related to this subject.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Nov 15 2.24pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 22 Nov 2015 1.43pm

Poverty is relative. All of us are poor to someone I'm sure. Too much self righteous bleeding heart whining on this site.

Everything is relative, especially when you wish to dismiss it.

I'm not in poverty. But I come from a family who were.

A government isn't just for the successes in society. That was how the Victoria era was run.

While I agree that the state must protect itself from the feckless and those who hate it or wish to abuse it...collectively not a small number....It's also true that we need to tend to our own....Good, bad or indifferent.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Nov 15 2.28pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 22 Nov 2015 2.06pm

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Just seen this article which goes to the heart of the debate regarding the hypocrisy related to this subject.


Yep I agree, liberalism has played an important part in leading us into our current mess.

 


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