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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 13 Jun 17 7.13pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by europalace


So, more than 40 years ago. So how can a country have a GDP growth of more than double that of the Eurozone and nearly 3 times that of the UK based on an economy of fishing and tourism? You are clearly totally uneducated on this subject and probably on your own country, the UK also.

Your experience of Malta 40 years ago is totally irrelevant compared to that of today. You are 100% wrong about the country I live in and a typical close minded Brit who hasn't got a clue about Europe let alone the EU. You really are an embarrassment to your country and a probable reason why so many young British voters voted the opposite way to you.


Edited by europalace (13 Jun 2017 2.09pm)

I notice a few others have agreed with me since your post and I say again you need to grow up and see the wood for the trees and as being an embarrassment to m y country at least I live in it and not go bolting to any country that will have me like you have.
The reason so many young people voted the opposite to me was because they fell hook line and sinker for Corbyns promises of FREE Education Cheap housing and all the other things. The young are quite gullible when something is offered for free. Socialism just does not work and it never will. God help us if Corbyn was the Prime Minister.

 


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europalace Flag Europe 13 Jun 17 8.15pm Send a Private Message to europalace Add europalace as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

I notice a few others have agreed with me since your post and I say again you need to grow up and see the wood for the trees and as being an embarrassment to m y country at least I live in it and not go bolting to any country that will have me like you have.
The reason so many young people voted the opposite to me was because they fell hook line and sinker for Corbyns promises of FREE Education Cheap housing and all the other things. The young are quite gullible when something is offered for free. Socialism just does not work and it never will. God help us if Corbyn was the Prime Minister.


So, who has 'agreed' and out of those that have 'agreed', how many have lived in Malta during the last 15 years when most of the economy has boomed due to EU membership? I've posted links to factual economic information about the country, everyone else seem to be using their biased vivid imaginations.

 

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rmdavis02 Flag 14 Jun 17 2.06pm Send a Private Message to rmdavis02 Add rmdavis02 as a friend

And don't forget about the euro as well.

 

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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 14 Jun 17 2.31pm Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

I notice a few others have agreed with me since your post and I say again you need to grow up and see the wood for the trees and as being an embarrassment to m y country at least I live in it and not go bolting to any country that will have me like you have.
The reason so many young people voted the opposite to me was because they fell hook line and sinker for Corbyns promises of FREE Education Cheap housing and all the other things. The young are quite gullible when something is offered for free. Socialism just does not work and it never will. God help us if Corbyn was the Prime Minister.

It's attitudes like this that will only make people MORE likely to vote for Corbyn and progressive social policies. The economic fundamentals behind such polices are well founded and the policies on offer from Labour are not radical or particularly unusual when compared with OEDC. Your attitude is outdated and characteristic of the negativity, hubris and myopia of the right wing in Britain prior to this election. The policies of consecutive governments have made life more difficult and uncertain for young people and they have a right to vote for a party that offers a more credible and fairer alternative.

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This is an interesting look at the breakdown of the votes.

Given the data on wages released today are further evidence of the failure of the Tory government since 2010 and the problems they have created. These are quite fundamental problems to our economy - despite low unemployment real wages are falling materially. Given the economy is propped up by consumer spending this highlights the structural deficiencies in our economy and throws into greater relief the problems caused by Tory policy on wages and inequality, but also on a lack of investment both from the public sector and from business.

If the Tories don't properly abandon their ideological commitment to austerity they will lose big time when the next election comes around. They are quite fortunate that the election was last week rather than tomorrow.

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Jun 17 2.40pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

It's attitudes like this that will only make people MORE likely to vote for Corbyn and progressive social policies. The economic fundamentals behind such polices are well founded and the policies on offer from Labour are not radical or particularly unusual when compared with OEDC. Your attitude is outdated and characteristic of the negativity, hubris and myopia of the right wing in Britain prior to this election. The policies of consecutive governments have made life more difficult and uncertain for young people and they have a right to vote for a party that offers a more credible and fairer alternative.

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This is an interesting look at the breakdown of the votes.

Given the data on wages released today are further evidence of the failure of the Tory government since 2010 and the problems they have created. These are quite fundamental problems to our economy - despite low unemployment real wages are falling materially. Given the economy is propped up by consumer spending this highlights the structural deficiencies in our economy and throws into greater relief the problems caused by Tory policy on wages and inequality, but also on a lack of investment both from the public sector and from business.

If the Tories don't properly abandon their ideological commitment to austerity they will lose big time when the next election comes around.

There's already hints she might and I think she probably will. She likes to cherry pick good policies from elsewhere which I think is no bad thing, only pretty much anything apart from badly advised monumental changes in revenue raising comes from other parties.

She's like the boss who wants all the praise and the position without the ability. Actually she's not like it, she is it.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Jun 17 2.45pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Theresa May is an operations manager. If she was in a company she wouldn't be making key decisions or networking. She'd have been headhunted, very badly, and paid off within a year.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 14 Jun 17 2.53pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

There's already hints she might and I think she probably will. She likes to cherry pick good policies from elsewhere which I think is no bad thing, only pretty much anything apart from badly advised monumental changes in revenue raising comes from other parties.

She's like the boss who wants all the praise and the position without the ability. Actually she's not like it, she is it.

If they do, it'll hurt them, because we've had nearly a decade of austerity measures that have hit sections of the public pretty hard, especially in swing areas.

Admitting that the austerity measures were a failure isn't going to go down well with people who have experienced pay freezes and cuts over the that period

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Jun 17 3.07pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

If they do, it'll hurt them, because we've had nearly a decade of austerity measures that have hit sections of the public pretty hard, especially in swing areas.

Admitting that the austerity measures were a failure isn't going to go down well with people who have experienced pay freezes and cuts over the that period

I agree. That's where good spin comes in with a 'what the electorate are calling for' or 'what's needed for recruiting British workers.'

I think they were right then, just not so right now, but Corbyn is worrying for anyone over early 20's. I bet many have parents who aren't even aware of Britain in the '70s.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 14 Jun 17 3.17pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

I notice a few others have agreed with me since your post and I say again you need to grow up and see the wood for the trees and as being an embarrassment to m y country at least I live in it and not go bolting to any country that will have me like you have.
The reason so many young people voted the opposite to me was because they fell hook line and sinker for Corbyns promises of FREE Education Cheap housing and all the other things. The young are quite gullible when something is offered for free. Socialism just does not work and it never will. God help us if Corbyn was the Prime Minister.

OK, I just have to bite.

You make a sweeping statement with no support. I see no reason to believe the young are any more gullible than the middle aged and the old. I find this blanket statement offensive. I also think it disguises a lack of open-mindedness. The young are forced to face concepts and challenges of which they have had no prior experience on a regular basis. It is quite possible that they will consider new things readily and therefore tend towards open mindedness and a learning based approach.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 14 Jun 17 3.40pm

Originally posted by europalace

So, who has 'agreed' and out of those that have 'agreed', how many have lived in Malta during the last 15 years when most of the economy has boomed due to EU membership? I've posted links to factual economic information about the country, everyone else seem to be using their biased vivid imaginations.

Has that got anything to do with the umpteen millions given to Malta by the EU?

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 14 Jun 17 7.42pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Mob rule. No respect for Democracy.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 14 Jun 17 7.54pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Mob rule. No respect for Democracy.

This is a democracy.

There never really is any revolution without blood so he better be careful what he wishes for when he calls for government downfalls without a voting system.

Idiots could get excited.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jun 2017 7.55pm)

 


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