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Casual Orpington 23 Feb 20 4.16pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Aah yes the toe injury. Tbf if you had that much weight on a damaged toe I’d expect it to hurt and limit you just a lot. The toe injury was against klitsko , Hayes problems were shoulder and elbow
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Orpington 23 Feb 20 4.16pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Aah yes the toe injury. Tbf if you had that much weight on a damaged toe I’d expect it to hurt and limit you just a lot.

The toe injury was against klitsko , Hayes problems were shoulder and elbow

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Casual Orpington 23 Feb 20 4.25pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman When the purse for that fight is so huge I doubt either want to avoid it forever or until it doesn’t have the same pull or slip up elsewhere. Not sure who I’d prefer to win. Probably won’t mind. AJ will have most of the black support or ‘people of colour’ support (God I hate that term) but this is a personality individual sport so who knows on Fury. Some of his bizarre opinions have been forgotten and now his bravery or remarkable 8 second or years out comebacks are what stands out. Most are hopefully just glad some decent matchups are happening rather than rip-off contests I wouldn’t pay for or show my arse out of bed for across the water that early. I have my limits. I think that AJ is as popular with whites as blacks, second generation, Like Ian Wright , speaks with a London accent. Fury is an English /Irish gypsy. Don’t think that either is defined by their colour. I’m white working class and my mates are the same and like one or the other, regardless of colour. I actually like them both, positive Englishmen spreading positivity. Amen to that.
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Orpington 23 Feb 20 4.25pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

When the purse for that fight is so huge I doubt either want to avoid it forever or until it doesn’t have the same pull or slip up elsewhere. Not sure who I’d prefer to win. Probably won’t mind. AJ will have most of the black support or ‘people of colour’ support (God I hate that term) but this is a personality individual sport so who knows on Fury. Some of his bizarre opinions have been forgotten and now his bravery or remarkable 8 second or years out comebacks are what stands out.

Most are hopefully just glad some decent matchups are happening rather than rip-off contests I wouldn’t pay for or show my arse out of bed for across the water that early. I have my limits.

I think that AJ is as popular with whites as blacks, second generation, Like Ian Wright , speaks with a London accent.
Fury is an English /Irish gypsy.
Don’t think that either is defined by their colour.
I’m white working class and my mates are the same and like one or the other, regardless of colour.
I actually like them both, positive Englishmen spreading positivity. Amen to that.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Feb 20 4.35pm
Originally posted by Casual I think that AJ is as popular with whites as blacks, second generation, Like Ian Wright , speaks with a London accent. Fury is an English /Irish gypsy. Don’t think that either is defined by their colour. I’m white working class and my mates are the same and like one or the other, regardless of colour. I actually like them both, positive Englishmen spreading positivity. Amen to that. My point was more the black support will be with AJ. You can guarantee that. That was my point. The rest you quote I mainly agree with although AJ’s accent isn’t really a traditional London accent. Anyway, it won’t matter one iota unless one gets unnerved at a venue with one sided support but it’ll probably be fought on another continent anyway. COYP
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Caterham 23 Feb 20 4.35pm

Originally posted by Casual

My point was more the black support will be with AJ. You can guarantee that. That was my point. The rest you quote I mainly agree with although AJ’s accent isn’t really a traditional London accent.

Anyway, it won’t matter one iota unless one gets unnerved at a venue with one sided support but it’ll probably be fought on another continent anyway.

COYP

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 23 Feb 20 4.36pm
It's all about opinions. If I had any real knowledge, I'd be a Promoter, or trainer. For me, AJ has deliberately swerved Fury (if you believe the papers) for a couple of years. It's only now that Eddie Hearn wants the match. For me, I have little interest in Joshua. If this message board gives a wider indication of public opinion, then there seems to be the demand for Joshua-Fury to happen. Wilder was seemingly struggling after 30 seconds of the first round. Almost like he had an asthma attack, and was struggling for breath. And his footwork wasn't up to par. Wilder will take a few weeks to see if he wants to take on Fury again. We'll have to see how quickly his injuries and ego heal. Then if he swerves it, I guess AJ-Fury is the only show in town. Whilst they are both on their best form. I disengage, I turn the page.
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It's all about opinions. If I had any real knowledge, I'd be a Promoter, or trainer.
For me, AJ has deliberately swerved Fury (if you believe the papers) for a couple of years. It's only now that Eddie Hearn wants the match.
For me, I have little interest in Joshua. If this message board gives a wider indication of public opinion, then there seems to be the demand for Joshua-Fury to happen.

Wilder was seemingly struggling after 30 seconds of the first round. Almost like he had an asthma attack, and was struggling for breath. And his footwork wasn't up to par.

Wilder will take a few weeks to see if he wants to take on Fury again. We'll have to see how quickly his injuries and ego heal.

Then if he swerves it, I guess AJ-Fury is the only show in town. Whilst they are both on their best form.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Badger11 Beckenham 23 Feb 20 4.57pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly It's all about opinions. If I had any real knowledge, I'd be a Promoter, or trainer. For me, AJ has deliberately swerved Fury (if you believe the papers) for a couple of years. It's only now that Eddie Hearn wants the match. For me, I have little interest in Joshua. If this message board gives a wider indication of public opinion, then there seems to be the demand for Joshua-Fury to happen. Wilder was seemingly struggling after 30 seconds of the first round. Almost like he had an asthma attack, and was struggling for breath. And his footwork wasn't up to par. Wilder will take a few weeks to see if he wants to take on Fury again. We'll have to see how quickly his injuries and ego heal. Then if he swerves it, I guess AJ-Fury is the only show in town. Whilst they are both on their best form. When it comes to fighters avoiding each other nobody really knows. Boxing promoters inhabit a murky world they will never be as stupid to decline a fight rather they will set demands that cannot be matched and then complain that the other side ran away. I think the public will demand Fury Vs AJ due to demand it will have to be in a football stadium so if they don't get on on this summer it won't happen this year. Either that or they grab the Arab money and put it on in a soulless arena in the desert. Edited by Badger11 (23 Feb 2020 4.58pm) One more point
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Beckenham 23 Feb 20 4.57pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

It's all about opinions. If I had any real knowledge, I'd be a Promoter, or trainer.
For me, AJ has deliberately swerved Fury (if you believe the papers) for a couple of years. It's only now that Eddie Hearn wants the match.
For me, I have little interest in Joshua. If this message board gives a wider indication of public opinion, then there seems to be the demand for Joshua-Fury to happen.

Wilder was seemingly struggling after 30 seconds of the first round. Almost like he had an asthma attack, and was struggling for breath. And his footwork wasn't up to par.

Wilder will take a few weeks to see if he wants to take on Fury again. We'll have to see how quickly his injuries and ego heal.

Then if he swerves it, I guess AJ-Fury is the only show in town. Whilst they are both on their best form.

When it comes to fighters avoiding each other nobody really knows. Boxing promoters inhabit a murky world they will never be as stupid to decline a fight rather they will set demands that cannot be matched and then complain that the other side ran away.

I think the public will demand Fury Vs AJ due to demand it will have to be in a football stadium so if they don't get on on this summer it won't happen this year. Either that or they grab the Arab money and put it on in a soulless arena in the desert.

Edited by Badger11 (23 Feb 2020 4.58pm)

One more point

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 23 Feb 20 5.10pm
I think Badger has some good points. A bit like Palace, no-one knows what goes on behind the scenes. We just know that promoters are trying to maximise the return on their investment. It would seem logical to have AJ-Fury in a UK football stadium 'for the fans', but I can see the fight (if it happens) going to Vegas or the Arabs. I disengage, I turn the page.
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in a hidey-hole 23 Feb 20 5.10pm

I think Badger has some good points. A bit like Palace, no-one knows what goes on behind the scenes. We just know that promoters are trying to maximise the return on their investment.
It would seem logical to have AJ-Fury in a UK football stadium 'for the fans', but I can see the fight (if it happens) going to Vegas or the Arabs.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Casual Orpington 23 Feb 20 7.08pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly It's all about opinions. If I had any real knowledge, I'd be a Promoter, or trainer. For me, AJ has deliberately swerved Fury (if you believe the papers) for a couple of years. It's only now that Eddie Hearn wants the match. For me, I have little interest in Joshua. If this message board gives a wider indication of public opinion, then there seems to be the demand for Joshua-Fury to happen. Wilder was seemingly struggling after 30 seconds of the first round. Almost like he had an asthma attack, and was struggling for breath. And his footwork wasn't up to par. Wilder will take a few weeks to see if he wants to take on Fury again. We'll have to see how quickly his injuries and ego heal. Then if he swerves it, I guess AJ-Fury is the only show in town. Whilst they are both on their best form. Who have you got interest in seeing fury fight next ? I’d like to see Usyk fight whyte, then the winner fight Joshua/ fury after they fight. In reality fury v wilder 3 will probably happen, as regardless of last nights landslide, wilder will surely trigger the re match, simply for the money, or he will be fighting someone else on normal tele in a smaller venue for a fraction of the money.
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Orpington 23 Feb 20 7.08pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Wilder was seemingly struggling after 30 seconds of the first round. Almost like he had an asthma attack, and was struggling for breath. And his footwork wasn't up to par.

Wilder will take a few weeks to see if he wants to take on Fury again. We'll have to see how quickly his injuries and ego heal.

Then if he swerves it, I guess AJ-Fury is the only show in town. Whilst they are both on their best form.

Who have you got interest in seeing fury fight next ?

I’d like to see Usyk fight whyte, then the winner fight Joshua/ fury after they fight.
In reality fury v wilder 3 will probably happen, as regardless of last
nights landslide, wilder will surely trigger the re match, simply for the money, or he will be fighting someone else on normal tele in a smaller venue for a fraction of the money.

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cpfc_chap koh samui 24 Feb 20 8.28pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly I think Badger has some good points. A bit like Palace, no-one knows what goes on behind the scenes. We just know that promoters are trying to maximise the return on their investment. It would seem logical to have AJ-Fury in a UK football stadium 'for the fans', but I can see the fight (if it happens) going to Vegas or the Arabs. I'm not sure it'll be in Saudi after Fury thanking of jc etc... I'm sure that wouldn't go down well with the locals... Reckon old Trafford or whl. [Link]
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koh samui 24 Feb 20 8.28pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I'm not sure it'll be in Saudi after Fury thanking of jc etc... I'm sure that wouldn't go down well with the locals...

Reckon old Trafford or whl.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 24 Feb 20 8.34pm
Originally posted by cpfc_chap I'm not sure it'll be in Saudi after Fury thanking of jc etc... I'm sure that wouldn't go down well with the locals... Reckon old Trafford or whl. [Link] Never heard him referred to as jc. Makes Jesus Christ sound like a top of the charts US rapper. COYP
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Caterham 24 Feb 20 8.34pm

Originally posted by cpfc_chap

I'm not sure it'll be in Saudi after Fury thanking of jc etc... I'm sure that wouldn't go down well with the locals...

Reckon old Trafford or whl.

[Link]

Never heard him referred to as jc. Makes Jesus Christ sound like a top of the charts US rapper.

COYP

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Feb 20 9.17pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Never heard him referred to as jc. Makes Jesus Christ sound like a top of the charts US rapper. He's only called jc by close friends. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Feb 20 9.17pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Never heard him referred to as jc. Makes Jesus Christ sound like a top of the charts US rapper.

He's only called jc by close friends.

Red and Blue Army!

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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 25 Feb 20 10.42pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Sounds like fury v AJ might not be in England. Could be the Middle East or the states due to fury’s ESPN contract. Typical. IF this turns out to be the case I think it would be disgraceful... A real kick in the face for all those fans who have supported both fighters for years... The majority of them being working class people who can’t afford a trip to Saudi... Common sense would say it’s gotta be in front of 80,000+ at Wembley Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Sounds like fury v AJ might not be in England. Could be the Middle East or the states due to fury’s ESPN contract. Typical.

IF this turns out to be the case I think it would be disgraceful... A real kick in the face for all those fans who have supported both fighters for years... The majority of them being working class people who can’t afford a trip to Saudi...

Common sense would say it’s gotta be in front of 80,000+ at Wembley

Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 27 Feb 20 10.01am
The Rumble in the Jungle kind of set the precedent for chasing wonga, when it should have perhaps been held in the USA. The obstacles at the moment are that Wilder wants the re-match. But he can be paid a deferment fee to perhaps face the winner of AJ-Fury. Unless there is another re-match clause to that fight, too. At this sort of level, even holding the AJ-Fury fight at Wembley, ticket prices are likely to be outrageous. The money men have a lot of work to do I disengage, I turn the page.
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in a hidey-hole 27 Feb 20 10.01am

The Rumble in the Jungle kind of set the precedent for chasing wonga, when it should have perhaps been held in the USA.

The obstacles at the moment are that Wilder wants the re-match. But he can be paid a deferment fee to perhaps face the winner of AJ-Fury.
Unless there is another re-match clause to that fight, too.

At this sort of level, even holding the AJ-Fury fight at Wembley, ticket prices are likely to be outrageous.

The money men have a lot of work to do

I disengage, I turn the page.

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