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  Hrolf The Ganger  06 Feb 17 10.51pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Which particular branch of islam are you referring to. I don't want to coat all Muslims treatment of women when there are examples of women being in positions of power and well represented in Government in Muslim countries. Again, I don't want to coat all Muslim countries over gay rights with sweeping generalisations as there are examples where the opposite is true. [Link]
Of course homophobia and Misogyny is wrong whatever religion espouses such twaddle. But you and I both know that it isn't just limited to Islam. There are examples of c***iness in all religions, yet you are fixated on Islam cos the man has told you to be scared. Oh good. Even you can't defend the indefensible. Well I never.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 06 Feb 17 11.34pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Which particular branch of islam are you referring to. I don't want to coat all Muslims treatment of women when there are examples of women being in positions of power and well represented in Government in Muslim countries. Again, I don't want to coat all Muslim countries over gay rights with sweeping generalisations as there are examples where the opposite is true. [Link]
Of course homophobia and Misogyny is wrong whatever religion espouses such twaddle. But you and I both know that it isn't just limited to Islam. There are examples of c***iness in all religions, yet you are fixated on Islam cos the man has told you to be scared. Phobias are best addressed by introducing the dread face on in a controlled environment. Misogyny is maybe a phobia too. You could theoretically cure both by having a woman use extramarital equipment to introduce the concept of anal sex to a man. Not sure how you could do it if you reverse the sexes though...... And one of them isn't exactly universally accepted by Muslims. Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (06 Feb 2017 11.35pm) edited for missing spaces.... Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (06 Feb 2017 11.36pm)
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Ray in Houston  Houston 06 Feb 17 11.52pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Of course homophobia and Misogyny is wrong whatever religion espouses such twaddle. But you and I both know that it isn't just limited to Islam. There are examples of c***iness in all religions, yet you are fixated on Islam cos the man has told you to be scared. For example: here's a photo of a bunch of old, white, Christian (allegedly) men deciding that hundreds of thousands of women around the world should never know that abortion is an option.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 07 Feb 17 7.48am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Which particular branch of islam are you referring to. I don't want to coat all Muslims treatment of women when there are examples of women being in positions of power and well represented in Government in Muslim countries. Again, I don't want to coat all Muslim countries over gay rights with sweeping generalisations as there are examples where the opposite is true. [Link]
Of course homophobia and Misogyny is wrong whatever religion espouses such twaddle. But you and I both know that it isn't just limited to Islam. There are examples of c***iness in all religions, yet you are fixated on Islam cos the man has told you to be scared. Perhaps you should have taken longer - you quote Indonesia as being gay-friendly, yet: Why don't you mention the dozen or so Islamic countries where being gay carries the death penalty? Edited by hedgehog50 (07 Feb 2017 7.57am)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Feb 17 8.07am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Perhaps you should have taken longer - you quote Indonesia as being gay-friendly, yet: Why don't you mention the dozen or so Islamic countries where being gay carries the death penalty? Edited by hedgehog50 (07 Feb 2017 7.57am) Because you have. Is your everyday Muslim responsible for the reprehensible stance of those in power in their country? Are you saying that because a country has reprehensible laws we shouldn't allow anyone from there in?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Feb 17 8.08am |
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Oh dear, hasn't Jon Berkow put the cat among the pigeons...
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Kermit8  Hevon 07 Feb 17 8.13am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Invade Saudi Arabia and steal their oil? Just putting it out there. What about my idea of proscribing travel wise the members of the extremist killer/terrorist cults and leaving other Muslims alone? A bit more rational than your alternative idea.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 07 Feb 17 8.50am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Oh dear, hasn't Jon Berkow put the cat among the pigeons... As if we haven't had dodgy people on state visits before: I would argue that Trump is far less reprehensible than any of those. Edited by hedgehog50 (07 Feb 2017 8.51am)
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 07 Feb 17 8.57am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Because you have. Is your everyday Muslim responsible for the reprehensible stance of those in power in their country? Are you saying that because a country has reprehensible laws we shouldn't allow anyone from there in? Where did I say this? Also, for your information here is a list of countries that carry the death penalty for leaving the religion of Islam: "By their works ye shall know them" indeed.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 07 Feb 17 8.58am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
As if we haven't had dodgy people on state visits before: I would argue that Trump is far less reprehensible than any of those. Edited by hedgehog50 (07 Feb 2017 8.51am) At least you can see they are all reprehensible, though don't know about about Xi, including Trump. But Bercow only took his role in 2009. Good on him for 'speaking' out.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 07 Feb 17 9.01am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Where did I say this? Also, for your information here is a list of countries that carry the death penalty for leaving the religion of Islam: "By their works ye shall know them" indeed. Ah, heresy. Luckily, we have always been too civilised here to execute people for heresy.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Feb 17 9.03am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Where did I say this? Also, for your information here is a list of countries that carry the death penalty for leaving the religion of Islam: "By their works ye shall know them" indeed. Yes it's all very bad indeed, I don't disagree. But what has this got to do with Trump's ban?
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