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  Hrolf The Ganger  12 Jun 17 1.16pm |
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Originally posted by pefwin
Just google it, tired of explaining to the shallow end. I just googled superiority complex. It had a picture of you.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 12 Jun 17 1.20pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It seems clear that a number of parties will be pushing for a watered down version of Brexit including some in the Tory Party. I'd like to see Nigel Farage return to revitalise the now pathetic UKIP. He need to remind people why most voted Brexit and why mass immigration is bad for our future. With the hung parliament, it might be possible to recruit pro 'hard Brexit' MP's over to UKIP without a by election and force the government to stick to their word. Given the disastrous results nationwide for UKIP I can't see any Tory jumping ship to join them. It would further weaken an already weak government and all but guarantee that MP a swift exit from the commons at the next election.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jun 17 1.27pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Given the disastrous results nationwide for UKIP I can't see any Tory jumping ship to join them. It would further weaken an already weak government and all but guarantee that MP a swift exit from the commons at the next election. They would of course still be in Parliament until the next election and able to vote with their party on other policy. It depends if they put the good of the country above their political future. In the current climate, it would only require a dozen to switch.
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| crystal balls The Garden of Earthly Delights 12 Jun 17 1.28pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It seems clear that a number of parties will be pushing for a watered down version of Brexit including some in the Tory Party. I'd like to see Nigel Farage return to revitalise the now pathetic UKIP. He need to remind people why most voted Brexit and why mass immigration is bad for our future. With the hung parliament, it might be possible to recruit pro 'hard Brexit' MP's over to UKIP without a by election and force the government to stick to their word. UKIP are extinct and irrelevant. The world has moved on, they haven't.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jun 17 1.35pm |
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Originally posted by crystal balls
UKIP are extinct and irrelevant. The world has moved on, they haven't. If you mean Britain, most people still want the proper Brexit they voted for. It's time for pro Hard Brexit MP's to stand up and be counted either from within the Tory Party or without.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 12 Jun 17 1.37pm |
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Originally posted by crystal balls
UKIP are extinct and irrelevant. The world has moved on, they haven't. So is brexit and the tories with it hopefully.....
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| crystal balls The Garden of Earthly Delights 12 Jun 17 1.44pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If you mean Britain, most people still want the proper Brexit they voted for. It's time for pro Hard Brexit MP's to stand up and be counted either from within the Tory Party or without. The majority who voted in the referendum voted to leave the EU; it cannot be said that the majority voted for a hard exit because there was no mention of a type of exit on the ballot paper, hard or otherwise. You may want a hard exit, doesn't follow that all other exit-ers agree.
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Kermit8  Hevon 12 Jun 17 1.46pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If you mean Britain, most people still want the proper Brexit they voted for. It's time for pro Hard Brexit MP's to stand up and be counted either from within the Tory Party or without. Only a lemming would go for Hard Brexit. I think you will find you are in the minority.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Jun 17 1.48pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
So is brexit and the tories with it hopefully..... Brexit is in both the Tory and Labour manifesto and Labour can't nationalise industries whilst inside the EU. Brexit and pre UKIP voters voted tory and Labour. It isn't dead but will probably be watered down and pointless bothering in the end. Edited by Rudi Hedman (12 Jun 2017 1.50pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jun 17 1.51pm |
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Originally posted by crystal balls
The majority who voted in the referendum voted to leave the EU; it cannot be said that the majority voted for a hard exit because there was no mention of a type of exit on the ballot paper, hard or otherwise. You may want a hard exit, doesn't follow that all other exit-ers agree. It cannot be said they didn't either. What is more certain is that many voted Brexit to reduce immigration and that almost certainly can't happen without leaving the single market.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jun 17 1.53pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Only a lemming would go for Hard Brexit. I think you will find you are in the minority. I think you will find that on immigration, I'm not. The lemming jumping off a cliff thing is not true BTW.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 12 Jun 17 2.08pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Brexit is in both the Tory and Labour manifesto and Labour can't nationalise industries whilst inside the EU. Brexit and pre UKIP voters voted tory and Labour. It isn't dead but will probably be watered down and pointless bothering in the end. Edited by Rudi Hedman (12 Jun 2017 1.50pm) Corbyn spent all his political life campaigning to leave the EU, as he took the Bennite line that it was just a capitalist club (a view I would agree with). It was only when he became leader of the Labour party that he had the apparent 'road to Damasucs' conversion to Remain.
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