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southnorwoodhill 29 Jul 20 7.06pm
Originally posted by cpj A big difference was that we had about 9 less pens this season - mainly due to Zaha not taking on defenders and just passing the ball backwards most of the time. I think it's more to do with the opposition getting wise to him, doubling up, and fouling him well away from the area.
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Originally posted by cpj

A big difference was that we had about 9 less pens this season - mainly due to Zaha not taking on defenders and just passing the ball backwards most of the time.

I think it's more to do with the opposition getting wise to him, doubling up, and fouling him well away from the area.

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cryrst The garden of England 29 Jul 20 9.09pm
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill I think it's more to do with the opposition getting wise to him, doubling up, and fouling him well away from the area. I think it is greatly to do with tactics. Not being backed up by the midfield so not wanting to lose the ball by running through as no one to pick it up.
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The garden of England 29 Jul 20 9.09pm

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

I think it's more to do with the opposition getting wise to him, doubling up, and fouling him well away from the area.

I think it is greatly to do with tactics.
Not being backed up by the midfield so not wanting to lose the ball by running through as no one to pick it up.

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PatrickA London 30 Jul 20 7.40am
Just read an article on Palace in The Athletic that in the past season we have scored the lowest amount of goals in any season in our 115 year history. Probably goes some way to explaining part of the dissatisfaction with Hodgson. Could he have got more goals out of this squad?
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London 30 Jul 20 7.40am

Just read an article on Palace in The Athletic that in the past season we have scored the lowest amount of goals in any season in our 115 year history.
Probably goes some way to explaining part of the dissatisfaction with Hodgson.
Could he have got more goals out of this squad?

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leejaneagles 30 Jul 20 8.32am
Originally posted by PatrickA Just read an article on Palace in The Athletic that in the past season we have scored the lowest amount of goals in any season in our 115 year history. Probably goes some way to explaining part of the dissatisfaction with Hodgson. Could he have got more goals out of this squad? Yes. Almost certainly. But so could Pardew and that would probably mean relegation. If we played Townsend, Meyer, Schlupp, Zaha, Ayew and Benteke each game we'd probably have scored on average 2-3 per game and lost on average most games 4-3. Of course we need a proper striker, that much is clear but our biggest issue is the midfield balance. We play 3 of McCarthur/McCarthy/Kouyate/Luka and they are all identical - 100% commitment, work-horses, midfield 'engine-room' or any of the other stupid terminology you can throw at them. There is no link between our relatively okay attack force and our solid defence. Sakho is our best passer of the ball, followed by PVA. This NEEDS to start being midfielders. If we can blend defensive mids and attacking mids, the majority of frustrations will go away, even if Benteke can only hit 5 or less a season, Zaha, Townsend and Ayew can probably hit way higher numbers with the right midfield behind them.
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30 Jul 20 8.32am

Originally posted by PatrickA

Yes. Almost certainly.

But so could Pardew and that would probably mean relegation.

If we played Townsend, Meyer, Schlupp, Zaha, Ayew and Benteke each game we'd probably have scored on average 2-3 per game and lost on average most games 4-3.

Of course we need a proper striker, that much is clear but our biggest issue is the midfield balance. We play 3 of McCarthur/McCarthy/Kouyate/Luka and they are all identical - 100% commitment, work-horses, midfield 'engine-room' or any of the other stupid terminology you can throw at them.

There is no link between our relatively okay attack force and our solid defence. Sakho is our best passer of the ball, followed by PVA. This NEEDS to start being midfielders.

If we can blend defensive mids and attacking mids, the majority of frustrations will go away, even if Benteke can only hit 5 or less a season, Zaha, Townsend and Ayew can probably hit way higher numbers with the right midfield behind them.

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CrazyBadger Ware 30 Jul 20 2.16pm
Originally posted by PatrickA Just read an article on Palace in The Athletic that in the past season we have scored the lowest amount of goals in any season in our 115 year history. Probably goes some way to explaining part of the dissatisfaction with Hodgson. Could he have got more goals out of this squad? I think my dissatisfaction with Hodgson is that he hasn't even tried to get any more goals out of the squad.Or at least he's losing ideas how to get more goals. A stat earlier said that we are the only club to have survived without scoring more than 2 goals in a game. That right there is Roy's Strength - defensive organisation, so we've been able to pick up points by not scoring much. problem is that for all your defensive resolve, you can't win a game without scoring goals - so he needs to find a way to do it, or simple defensive resolve won't be enough. "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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Ware 30 Jul 20 2.16pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

I think my dissatisfaction with Hodgson is that he hasn't even tried to get any more goals out of the squad.Or at least he's losing ideas how to get more goals.
A stat earlier said that we are the only club to have survived without scoring more than 2 goals in a game. That right there is Roy's Strength - defensive organisation, so we've been able to pick up points by not scoring much.
problem is that for all your defensive resolve, you can't win a game without scoring goals - so he needs to find a way to do it, or simple defensive resolve won't be enough.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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A1969Eagle Redhill 31 Jul 20 1.29am
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Remember this from last September?

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 31 Jul 20 12.09pm
Originally posted by A1969Eagle Remember this from last September? [Link] Written by an 18 year old university student Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 31 Jul 20 12.09pm

Originally posted by A1969Eagle

Remember this from last September?

[Link]

Written by an 18 year old university student

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Ian-VI Vicenza 31 Jul 20 12.31pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Written by an 18 year old university student LOL they would resort to anyone, even housewives... (with all due respect to housewives) Edited by Ian-VI (31 Jul 2020 12.32pm) The best footie management game: [Link]
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Vicenza 31 Jul 20 12.31pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Written by an 18 year old university student

LOL they would resort to anyone, even housewives... (with all due respect to housewives)

Edited by Ian-VI (31 Jul 2020 12.32pm)

The best footie management game: [Link]

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Eaglecoops CR3 31 Jul 20 12.46pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Written by an 18 year old university student TBF he had probably researched it, rather than just making stuff up which most reporters tend to.
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CR3 31 Jul 20 12.46pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Written by an 18 year old university student

TBF he had probably researched it, rather than just making stuff up which most reporters tend to.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 31 Jul 20 1.07pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops TBF he had probably researched it, rather than just making stuff up which most reporters tend to. Better informed than most journos, it's true. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 31 Jul 20 1.07pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

TBF he had probably researched it, rather than just making stuff up which most reporters tend to.

Better informed than most journos, it's true.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 31 Jul 20 3.32pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Better informed than most journos, it's true. And that, sadly, is not saying much these days. Welcome back from Barnard Castle, by the way.
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In a broken dream 31 Jul 20 3.32pm

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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Better informed than most journos, it's true.

And that, sadly, is not saying much these days.

Welcome back from Barnard Castle, by the way.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 01 Aug 20 1.45pm
Originally posted by palace_in_frogland And that, sadly, is not saying much these days. Welcome back from Barnard Castle, by the way. I've moved. The optician was shut. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 01 Aug 20 1.45pm

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

And that, sadly, is not saying much these days.

Welcome back from Barnard Castle, by the way.

I've moved. The optician was shut.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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