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  Hrolf The Ganger  03 Oct 20 12.34am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You puzzle me sometimes. Actually you puzzle me quite often! First you imply it's OK for Trump to lie because all politicians do it. Now you say I am suggesting it without evidence! In fact there's loads of evidence. There have been fact checked lists of his lies, which occur almost every day. It has been said that every time he opens his mouth a lie comes out and that he regards the truth as whatever he last said. I don't need to prove that. You just need to do some research. The one-eyed logic exists solely in your own fantasy world.
You say that other people have created their own narrative on this thread and yet you seem to be the expert at doing just that. Politicians lie all the time. To pretend that one is the biggest liar ever and therefore somehow less worthy than the rest is poppycock and you know it is. Trump has experienced the most negative media campaign of any president ever and has been given the least respect as President. Under his leadership, there have been no wars and the US economy has improved despite all the loony claims.
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BlueJay  UK 03 Oct 20 1.39am |
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Originally posted by matthau
Trump and Melanie have covid. Q says he needs to be in isolation whilst something major about to happen. Thanks for providing me a good laugh.
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| BlueJay UK 03 Oct 20 3.10am |
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Being hospitalised for an infection you downplayed for the last nine month isn't a great look.
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| Stirlingsays 03 Oct 20 4.47am |
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I'd suggest you have up-played this virus. Being the president they are going to be extra cautious but he doesn't look ill to me.....and the odds are he's not going to get significantly worse. Unfortunately the reality that the large majority of people fight off this infection without getting ill...even at his age is under promoted and instead the tragic outcomes get over emphasized in terms of likely risk. [Tweet Link]
A recent poll showed that people thought this virus killed 7 percent of the infected instead of way under 1 percent.
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Oct 20 7.29am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I worked most of my life in the food industry, some of it at a senior (MD) level. I employed nutritionists. It has always been my understanding that a vegetarian diet was deficient in minor, but important, nutrients essential to life. Like iron and vitamin B12 and for strict vegans, calcium. There are other trace elements that aren't measured but are considered important and which cannot be replaced by supplements. So I prefer to stay safe and eat some meat. The only nutrient vegans need to supplement is B12, although adequate amounts are obtained from plant based drinks. In fact omnivores May also struggle to obtain sufficient amounts. Shame the following took up a vegan diet, they may have become more successful !!
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| Mapletree Croydon 03 Oct 20 9.22am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'd suggest you have up-played this virus. Being the president they are going to be extra cautious but he doesn't look ill to me.....and the odds are he's not going to get significantly worse. Unfortunately the reality that the large majority of people fight off this infection without getting ill...even at his age is under promoted and instead the tragic outcomes get over emphasized in terms of likely risk. [Tweet Link]
A recent poll showed that people thought this virus killed 7 percent of the infected instead of way under 1 percent.
The CFR is 8% for 70 to 80 year olds. He will likely get worse. It takes a while.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Oct 20 9.29am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
So how high were Bill “ I never visited Epstein’s private Island” Clinton ethical standards? Edited by Spiderman (02 Oct 2020 6.02pm) On the evidence alone not very but does that make Trump's behaviour acceptable? Especially when his is 100 times worse. Trump was much more closely associated with Epstein than Clinton ever was.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Oct 20 9.33am |
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Originally posted by cpfc_chap
Out of curiosity what lies has he made whilst potus? Edited by cpfc_chap (02 Oct 2020 10.34pm) There are many fact-checking sites you can visit to get the information on this, but try this one for starters:-
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| Mapletree Croydon 03 Oct 20 9.41am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
On the evidence alone not very but does that make Trump's behaviour acceptable? Especially when his is 100 times worse. Trump was much more closely associated with Epstein than Clinton ever was. Trump & Epstein’s friendship didn’t suffer as a result of the Mar-a-Lago incident. Trump even praised Epstein during a 2002 interview with New York Magazine. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years, terrific guy,” he explained. “He’s fun to be with– it’s even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Oct 20 9.50am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You say that other people have created their own narrative on this thread and yet you seem to be the expert at doing just that. Politicians lie all the time. To pretend that one is the biggest liar ever and therefore somehow less worthy than the rest is poppycock and you know it is. Trump has experienced the most negative media campaign of any president ever and has been given the least respect as President. Under his leadership, there have been no wars and the US economy has improved despite all the loony claims. I don't have to provide evidence! It's all there in plain sight. You have only to listen to him, and read his tweets to know them. He contradicts himself constantly. Want a summary? Look here:- Of course he is getting a negative media campaign! He thoroughly deserves one. Avoiding wars by withdrawing US involvement in protecting others from undemocratic forces is no substitute for ramping up major trade wars with others that could very easily escalate into much more dangerous confrontations. People can die just as easily from the impacts of a trade war as from a hot war these days. Economic deprivation has consequences. Yes, he has ridden the wave of the economic revival that started under Obama but Presidents have little to do with economic cycles. What's more important is that he has prioritised keeping the economy growing over dealing with the pandemic effectively, primarily to avoid damaging his re-election chances. Selfish behaviour that has cost many American lives. Economies can recover. Dead people cannot. He was elected. That's true. Democratically? Questionable when he lost the popular vote. Is the electoral college a democratic system? Talk to many Americans and they will tell you they don't live in a Democracy. They live in a Republic, which isn't the same thing. We do live in a democracy in which we elect representatives to take decisions on our behalf. Holding the Brexit referendum was a betrayal of our democracy and not evidence of it!
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Oct 20 10.21am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Trump & Epstein’s friendship didn’t suffer as a result of the Mar-a-Lago incident. Trump even praised Epstein during a 2002 interview with New York Magazine. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years, terrific guy,” he explained. “He’s fun to be with– it’s even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” I suppose at least Trump admitted it ( not that I am trying to defend him) unlike Clinton who tried to deny his visits to “paedo island” despite being on 23 flight manifests
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Oct 20 10.23am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
On the evidence alone not very but does that make Trump's behaviour acceptable? Especially when his is 100 times worse. Trump was much more closely associated with Epstein than Clinton ever was. 100 times worse! Wow that is a statement without any facts, how do you know how close or not Clinton was to Epstein, he would never admit anything
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