In what way am I trying to 'shut down reasoned debate'? I accept your right to echo and agree with racist sentiments. Just as you, hopefully, respect my right to say that comparing 5% of British people being Muslim to the Nazi invasion, as 'Tommy' does in your video, or calling me 'anti-white' when I question our history, or claiming you can only be British if you're 'from' the British Isles, is pretty undisguised racism.

Fortunately most of the working class aren't stupid. That's why there were only 20000 yesterday, and why there will be 100x that on the streets when Trump eventually visits.

As for 'you can't be racist towards a religion...well I guess then in your eyes the Nazis weren't a racist organisation?

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

When he tries to blow me up or hundreds of his sympathisers arrive from abroad and want to build Nazi schools promoting terrorism, I will start worrying about him.

It truly amuses me that you think people could or should learn from you.

You know, it truly shows where the real fair and tolerant lies when societies are rewarded for letting foreigners into their country with accusations of being 'institutionalized racists'.....which is what you really mean.

In other words, because they like their own communities....like every other group.....that they are somehow wrong.

Total and utter crap.

Now, I have some sympathy for allowing citizenship to the families of soldiers who fight for the country.

However, the post war immigration policy was not intended along the lines that you regard. If they knew then that doing this would result in being branded racists and some kind of evil doers I very much doubt it would have happened.

The book by Murray 'the strange death of Europe' details the history of this and the lack of public say in the matter....an event that would intrinsically result in massive changes to the country.

I have nothing like the same 'easy come, easy go' attitude to citizenship that those politicians had and you have. I see in full light what people like you want to do.

Only an anti British person like you would suggest that people from foreign countries, who often describe themselves as being these nationalities are in fact as British as people describing themselves as being English, Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish.

Once again, creating an empire was not creating rights for people in those lands to have equal rights to people born here.

That's purely you being anti British and wishing for the end of British/English nationality in my view.

England is not a mish mash country for the world. Foreigners who come or came here and laid down roots and wish to be English or whatever are no problem.

Foreigners who come here and want to stake out their own piece of 'insert country' I'm opposed to.

This would be the case in any national country in the world. But I think you have double standards for the British/English.

If someone went into China and did this I think your attitude would be different.

Many black South Africans want to force out the whites out of their country. Tell me, do you condemn this racism?

You mean your anti white racism?

I have, what do you regard as the issue?

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

He is either, a lefty instigator looking to falsely tar the protest....exactly for the purposes of people like yourself.

He is either, a troll, looking to wind up the easily offended.

He is either, one of the few genuine neo nazis about.....In which case I disavow.

Hitler was awful, and while he didn't murder as many as Stalin, it wasn't for the lack of trying.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

He probably thinks Jews are a race, and Ethiopian jews a religion

Incidentally, those Ethiopian Jews were discriminated against when they migrated to the promised land.

Would ST consider the ill treatment of one race of jew against another racist?
He seems so clued up on what constitutes being a racist is.

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The fascinating thing for me is, that those who feel culturally under attack from foreign societies are celebrating a Britain that is a product of the influences of those same groups. We were inspired by the mathematics developed in Islamic societies during the middle ages, and we built on their foundations - 'stood on the shoulders of giants' as Newton would say - in the enlightenment, with its love for Physics and Maths.

We eat curries from India, drink Chinese tea, play Moorish guitars and have a political system developed by the Greeks. Not that this is something we should be ashamed of by the way, we too have enjoyed and enhanced these great inventions. But rather it should inform us when we decide to stigmatise a whole community, particularly one as diverse, philosophically and culturally rich as that of Islam on the actions of a few.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4