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sa_eagle Flag Just outside Cape Town 05 Sep 15 11.00am Send a Private Message to sa_eagle Add sa_eagle as a friend

Quote ZIGnZAG at 05 Sep 2015 10.32am

Quote sa_eagle at 05 Sep 2015 10.26am

He had a name...


And you have a complete lack of respect for that poor little boy by re posting a picture of his lifeless body.
Taking pictures of dead people is fcuking wrong.

It's a difficult and emotive topic, but something had to be done and thankfully the photographer had the balls to realise her image might change things. [Link] Hopefully such images, as disturbing as they are, might shake some of the racists and bigots out of their comfort zones.

 


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oldcodger Flag 05 Sep 15 11.01am Send a Private Message to oldcodger Add oldcodger as a friend

Quote ZIGnZAG at 05 Sep 2015 10.32am

Quote sa_eagle at 05 Sep 2015 10.26am

He had a name...


And you have a complete lack of respect for that poor little boy by re posting a picture of his lifeless body.
Taking pictures of dead people is fcuking wrong.

There is a callous attitude displayed by some on here towards those in need that weren't born here. I don't think censoring grim realities particularly helps that.

 

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oldcodger Flag 05 Sep 15 11.05am Send a Private Message to oldcodger Add oldcodger as a friend

Quote matt_himself at 04 Sep 2015 6.02pm

I love all the hand wringing. Support the immigrants or you are a fascist. Good on you.

I am marrying an immigrant - Kermit, Jamie, Gusset - have you made that commitment? Or are you merely telling us how to be because it makes you feel better?

If you haven't, please tell me what you have done to assist the 'cause'.

Looking forward to it.

A spat my tea out reading this.

 

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Percy of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 05 Sep 15 11.15am Send a Private Message to Percy of Peckham Add Percy of Peckham as a friend

What has Cameron actually done?!!!! Telling the EU that we aren't going to help isn't doing anything!

Sending a British warship to pick up floating migrants and land them in southern European EU states is absurd - it just hands the problem to someone else.

What is the UK's long-term policy on immigration and how does it stack up in the current crisis? I suspect the only way to change the current situation is to leave Europe and regain control of our borders.

It's possibly the hottest potato in the forthcoming referendum debate but who's going to be brave enough to stand up and discuss it rationally?

I'll respect Cameron if he does but somehow I have a strong feeling that he won't tackle it head on or offer any long-term solutions.

 


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oldcodger Flag 05 Sep 15 11.20am Send a Private Message to oldcodger Add oldcodger as a friend

Quote Percy of Peckham at 05 Sep 2015 11.15am

What has Cameron actually done?!!!! Telling the EU that we aren't going to help isn't doing anything!

Sending a British warship to pick up floating migrants and land them in southern European EU states is absurd - it just hands the problem to someone else.

What is the UK's long-term policy on immigration and how does it stack up in the current crisis? I suspect the only way to change the current situation is to leave Europe and regain control of our borders.

It's possibly the hottest potato in the forthcoming referendum debate but who's going to be brave enough to stand up and discuss it rationally?

I'll respect Cameron if he does but somehow I have a strong feeling that he won't tackle it head on or offer any long-term solutions.


It's an interesting time. I do think we have certain obligations towards those in need and they are made much more difficult by total free movement within the EU. I can imagine others thinking along these lines too before they vote.

 

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ZIGnZAG Flag Stoke 05 Sep 15 11.52am

Quote sa_eagle at 05 Sep 2015 11.00am

Quote ZIGnZAG at 05 Sep 2015 10.32am

Quote sa_eagle at 05 Sep 2015 10.26am

He had a name...


And you have a complete lack of respect for that poor little boy by re posting a picture of his lifeless body.
Taking pictures of dead people is fcuking wrong.

It's a difficult and emotive topic, but something had to be done and thankfully the photographer had the balls to realise her image might change things. [Link] Hopefully such images, as disturbing as they are, might shake some of the racists and bigots out of their comfort zones.

Women don't have balls. And this woman must have no children, because the lack of respect she showed that boy is the most shocking thing about that picture. It's wrong on too many levels.
People DO NOT need to see a picture of a dead child to realise children are dying, everyday.
The same as you should not need to see a picture of a child being abused to realise that there are children who get abused.
I'm not exactly sure what you think racists and bigots has to do with all this.
Seriously, mate, if you think people should take pictures of dead children, so other people can look at them..... Hang your head in shame, you sick, sick person.

 

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ZIGnZAG Flag Stoke 05 Sep 15 11.54am

Quote oldcodger at 05 Sep 2015 11.01am

Quote ZIGnZAG at 05 Sep 2015 10.32am

Quote sa_eagle at 05 Sep 2015 10.26am

He had a name...


And you have a complete lack of respect for that poor little boy by re posting a picture of his lifeless body.
Taking pictures of dead people is fcuking wrong.

There is a callous attitude displayed by some on here towards those in need that weren't born here. I don't think censoring grim realities particularly helps that.


What does taking/or looking at pictures of dead children help exactly???

 

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sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 05 Sep 15 11.57am Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Quote sa_eagle at 05 Sep 2015 11.00am

Quote ZIGnZAG at 05 Sep 2015 10.32am

Quote sa_eagle at 05 Sep 2015 10.26am

He had a name...


And you have a complete lack of respect for that poor little boy by re posting a picture of his lifeless body.
Taking pictures of dead people is fcuking wrong.

It's a difficult and emotive topic, but something had to be done and thankfully the photographer had the balls to realise her image might change things. [Link] Hopefully such images, as disturbing as they are, might shake some of the racists and bigots out of their comfort zones.


Its a very difficult situation, that, in my humble opinion can only be solved at its source, but as that region of the world has been in conflict for what seems like forever we can not hope to find a soloution any time soon. Images of dead/dying kids invoke a sudden response in people and rightly so (vietnam, african famine etc), but refugees have always died trying to find safety so i find it a bit strange that it has only happened now. Bit rambling i know but still trying to think rationally about this taking emotion out of it.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Sep 15 12.04pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The picture of that little boy unset me considerably, despite the knowledge that I and anyone opposed to completely unrealistic immigration provision had nothing to do with that child's death.

That child's death was all to do with the stupidity and recklessness of the boy's father.

It is frankly disgusting but typical of certain people to suggest otherwise.

The west owns no one a house and a job....We can't even house our own. The point of a state is to look after its own.....Not others.

Help is reasonable, and we are already correctly contributing to providing to this crises by providing UN funds that are feeding and housing people.

We should take what our government considers reasonable asylum.

What Germany thinks....matters nothing......They and Sweden are partly responsble for this mad dash in the first place.

Let them take them.


Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2015 12.06pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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oldcodger Flag 05 Sep 15 12.06pm Send a Private Message to oldcodger Add oldcodger as a friend

Quote ZIGnZAG at 05 Sep 2015 11.54am

Quote oldcodger at 05 Sep 2015 11.01am

Quote ZIGnZAG at 05 Sep 2015 10.32am

Quote sa_eagle at 05 Sep 2015 10.26am

He had a name...


And you have a complete lack of respect for that poor little boy by re posting a picture of his lifeless body.
Taking pictures of dead people is fcuking wrong.

There is a callous attitude displayed by some on here towards those in need that weren't born here. I don't think censoring grim realities particularly helps that.


What does taking/or looking at pictures of dead children help exactly???

This picture has undeniably resulted in a change in tone of how this crisis is reported, even in the right wing rags. It's also no doubt contributed to the decision to take more refugees in. So there's that.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Sep 15 12.11pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Anyone who takes decisions based upon pictures shouldn't be in a job that involves any responsibility.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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ZIGnZAG Flag Stoke 05 Sep 15 12.49pm

Quote oldcodger at 05 Sep 2015 12.06pm

Quote ZIGnZAG at 05 Sep 2015 11.54am

Quote oldcodger at 05 Sep 2015 11.01am

Quote ZIGnZAG at 05 Sep 2015 10.32am

Quote sa_eagle at 05 Sep 2015 10.26am

He had a name...


And you have a complete lack of respect for that poor little boy by re posting a picture of his lifeless body.
Taking pictures of dead people is fcuking wrong.

There is a callous attitude displayed by some on here towards those in need that weren't born here. I don't think censoring grim realities particularly helps that.


What does taking/or looking at pictures of dead children help exactly???

This picture has undeniably resulted in a change in tone of how this crisis is reported, even in the right wing rags. It's also no doubt contributed to the decision to take more refugees in. So there's that.

The tone of how it's reported has sunk to a woman thinking it's ok to photograph a dead child. And people being encouraged to view that image, as it gets shared around the world.
It's wrong/sick.

The fact that there are more refugees, and countries being forced to act like they 'care', means more refugees are being taken in.


 

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