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Part Time James 11 Sep 17 4.45pm
Originally posted by Ray in Houston Of course, I love(d) bacon too. But knowledge is power and I think it's better to understand what you're doing when you eat bacon instead of thinking that you need it for protein. I don't think even the most misguided person would say they were eating bacon because they couldn't derive protein from another source! People eat bacon because it's a nice treat. It's like Mars Bars or Beer. No one consumes them for the health benefits or nutrition!
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston

Of course, I love(d) bacon too. But knowledge is power and I think it's better to understand what you're doing when you eat bacon instead of thinking that you need it for protein.

I don't think even the most misguided person would say they were eating bacon because they couldn't derive protein from another source! People eat bacon because it's a nice treat. It's like Mars Bars or Beer. No one consumes them for the health benefits or nutrition!

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Stuk Top half 11 Sep 17 5.09pm
Originally posted by Ray in Houston It does, but so does avocado (2.9g per serving vs. bacon at 3g per serving), without the stuff that's horrible for you in bacon. Also, animal proteins are strongly linked to numerous cancers whereas vegetable proteins are not. It's a fallacy that you need to eat meat to get protein. Where do you think the cow gets its protein from? Vegetables - especially anything that's dark in colour - are an excellent source of protein. And, again, because they aren't heavy with fat, sodium or cholesterol, you can eat a lot more veggies and so fulfill all your protein and all other nutrient needs without killing yourself in the process. Edited by Ray in Houston (11 Sep 2017 4.37pm) Grass. Slice of bacon is so American. Their bacon is streaky and fatty, our's is mostly back bacon but to say there's 1.1g of saturated fat per slice is so generic it's wrong. There are so many types of bacon and ways to cook it or cure it. But back on topic, I love avocado and always have. From the 80s style prawn cocktail in half an avocado, to the chicken, bacon and avocado ciabatta. Guacamole is great unless some b****** ruins it with chopped tomato. Optimistic as ever
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston

It does, but so does avocado (2.9g per serving vs. bacon at 3g per serving), without the stuff that's horrible for you in bacon. Also, animal proteins are strongly linked to numerous cancers whereas vegetable proteins are not.

It's a fallacy that you need to eat meat to get protein. Where do you think the cow gets its protein from? Vegetables - especially anything that's dark in colour - are an excellent source of protein. And, again, because they aren't heavy with fat, sodium or cholesterol, you can eat a lot more veggies and so fulfill all your protein and all other nutrient needs without killing yourself in the process.

Edited by Ray in Houston (11 Sep 2017 4.37pm)

Grass.

Slice of bacon is so American. Their bacon is streaky and fatty, our's is mostly back bacon but to say there's 1.1g of saturated fat per slice is so generic it's wrong. There are so many types of bacon and ways to cook it or cure it.

But back on topic, I love avocado and always have. From the 80s style prawn cocktail in half an avocado, to the chicken, bacon and avocado ciabatta. Guacamole is great unless some b****** ruins it with chopped tomato.

Optimistic as ever

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jamiemartin721 Reading 11 Sep 17 5.18pm
Its a bit hipster, but I'm partial to guacamole as a dip, and as a treat, avocado in a bacon sandwich. On its own, not a fan, but it seems to bring out the flavours in other things very nicely. Never tried it on toast for breakfast mind. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 11 Sep 17 5.18pm

Its a bit hipster, but I'm partial to guacamole as a dip, and as a treat, avocado in a bacon sandwich.

On its own, not a fan, but it seems to bring out the flavours in other things very nicely.

Never tried it on toast for breakfast mind.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 11 Sep 17 5.20pm
Originally posted by Stuk Grass. Slice of bacon is so American. Their bacon is streaky and fatty, our's is mostly back bacon but to say there's 1.1g of saturated fat per slice is so generic it's wrong. There are so many types of bacon and ways to cook it or cure it. But back on topic, I love avocado and always have. From the 80s style prawn cocktail in half an avocado, to the chicken, bacon and avocado ciabatta. Guacamole is great unless some b****** ruins it with chopped tomato. Bacon could be as bad a cigs, and booze, I'd still eat it. Thing is, you have to die of something, might as well be for a good reason. Love, freedom, bacon. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 11 Sep 17 5.20pm

Originally posted by Stuk

Grass.

Bacon could be as bad a cigs, and booze, I'd still eat it. Thing is, you have to die of something, might as well be for a good reason. Love, freedom, bacon.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 11 Sep 17 5.23pm
Originally posted by Part Time James I don't think even the most misguided person would say they were eating bacon because they couldn't derive protein from another source! People eat bacon because it's a nice treat. It's like Mars Bars or Beer. No one consumes them for the health benefits or nutrition! I do find that chemical alteration, have been a massive health benefit, for other people. Without mood alteration I'm pretty certain I'd have murdered some fkers by now. I could live without chocolate but a life of sobriety is like being condemned to a fking waking nightmare of banality. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 11 Sep 17 5.23pm

Originally posted by Part Time James

I don't think even the most misguided person would say they were eating bacon because they couldn't derive protein from another source! People eat bacon because it's a nice treat. It's like Mars Bars or Beer. No one consumes them for the health benefits or nutrition!

I do find that chemical alteration, have been a massive health benefit, for other people. Without mood alteration I'm pretty certain I'd have murdered some f**kers by now.

I could live without chocolate but a life of sobriety is like being condemned to a f**king waking nightmare of banality.

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Ray in Houston Houston 11 Sep 17 5.23pm
Originally posted by Part Time James I'm not going to misread what you mean there, but you clearly do appreciate that protein is needed. I wasn't trying to quote my own version of a GDA for protein intake at any point. Excessive protein intake as promoted by body building magazines sponsored by protein supplement companies just leads to a conversion to fat cells when it can't be fully utilised for muscle growth/maintenance anyway so I'm not going to argue the case for excessive protein intake. I'm just saying, a little bit of protein is a good thing, however you choose to source it. To say bacon is just sodium and cholesterol is not factually correct but it'd be obtuse of me to actually infer that that was what you meant. Agreed - too much protein will be turned to fat if you don't use it. The concept of being able to eat your face off as a vegetarian is because it takes more volume of food to over-eat on things like protein, so you are far more likely to feel full before you have overdone it. In fact, one of the problems with the modern diet of processed foods - especially processed meats - is that they pack such a concentrated punch (not it a good way) in small volumes that you have to eat far too much in order to satiate your hunger multiplying the negative health effects. Animal proteins also have other negative effects in addition to being a package deal with fat, sodium and cholesterol. They create an acidity that your body neutralises with calcium so that dairy products - while rich in calcium - are also rich in animal proteins that can mean that your body ends up leaching calcium from your bones to counteract the acidity from the protein in the milk. A further irony is that low-fat milk ends up having a higher concentration of protein per pint than whole milk, so while you save on fat you're ramping up the demand on calcium in your system. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Originally posted by Part Time James

I'm not going to misread what you mean there, but you clearly do appreciate that protein is needed. I wasn't trying to quote my own version of a GDA for protein intake at any point. Excessive protein intake as promoted by body building magazines sponsored by protein supplement companies just leads to a conversion to fat cells when it can't be fully utilised for muscle growth/maintenance anyway so I'm not going to argue the case for excessive protein intake. I'm just saying, a little bit of protein is a good thing, however you choose to source it. To say bacon is just sodium and cholesterol is not factually correct but it'd be obtuse of me to actually infer that that was what you meant.

Agreed - too much protein will be turned to fat if you don't use it. The concept of being able to eat your face off as a vegetarian is because it takes more volume of food to over-eat on things like protein, so you are far more likely to feel full before you have overdone it. In fact, one of the problems with the modern diet of processed foods - especially processed meats - is that they pack such a concentrated punch (not it a good way) in small volumes that you have to eat far too much in order to satiate your hunger multiplying the negative health effects.

Animal proteins also have other negative effects in addition to being a package deal with fat, sodium and cholesterol. They create an acidity that your body neutralises with calcium so that dairy products - while rich in calcium - are also rich in animal proteins that can mean that your body ends up leaching calcium from your bones to counteract the acidity from the protein in the milk. A further irony is that low-fat milk ends up having a higher concentration of protein per pint than whole milk, so while you save on fat you're ramping up the demand on calcium in your system.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Ray in Houston Houston 11 Sep 17 5.26pm
Originally posted by Part Time James I don't think even the most misguided person would say they were eating bacon because they couldn't derive protein from another source! People eat bacon because it's a nice treat. It's like Mars Bars or Beer. No one consumes them for the health benefits or nutrition! Yeah, bacon is a tap in (there's a Benteke/Dann joke here somewhere), as are sweets and beer. It's the broader topic of the deleterious effects of meat that gets overlooked. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Houston 11 Sep 17 5.26pm

Originally posted by Part Time James

Yeah, bacon is a tap in (there's a Benteke/Dann joke here somewhere), as are sweets and beer. It's the broader topic of the deleterious effects of meat that gets overlooked.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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YT Oxford 11 Sep 17 5.33pm
Originally posted by Michaelawt85 Very 1980s Do you have prawn cocktail and black forest gateau as well As I mentioned in another thread way back, Michaela, my 18th birthday treat (in 1977) was in The Old Mill in Bexley - a Berni Inn, or was it a Schooner Inn? One of those. You've just described 2 of the 3 courses I had! Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 11 Sep 17 5.33pm

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

Very 1980s
Do you have prawn cocktail and black forest gateau as well

As I mentioned in another thread way back, Michaela, my 18th birthday treat (in 1977) was in The Old Mill in Bexley - a Berni Inn, or was it a Schooner Inn? One of those. You've just described 2 of the 3 courses I had!

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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 11 Sep 17 5.35pm
I was nicknamed Mr Bacon after a penalty shoot out that I lost a cup final for our team back a while. Something to do with lean back. Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.
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I was nicknamed Mr Bacon after a penalty shoot out that I lost a cup final for our team back a while. Something to do with lean back.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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YT Oxford 11 Sep 17 5.36pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Bathrooms used to come in Avacado colour. I like Guacamole but Avacado without much added flavouring is a bit bland. Hey, Rudi, what do you mean, USED TO? You haven't seen my and Mrs YT's 'drum'! Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 11 Sep 17 5.36pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Bathrooms used to come in Avacado colour.

I like Guacamole but Avacado without much added flavouring is a bit bland.

Hey, Rudi, what do you mean, USED TO? You haven't seen my and Mrs YT's 'drum'!

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Pete53 Hassocks 11 Sep 17 7.18pm
I haven't been near an avocado for years. For some strange reason they always gave me gut ache.
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Hassocks 11 Sep 17 7.18pm

I haven't been near an avocado for years. For some strange reason they always gave me gut ache.

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Kermit8 Hevon 11 Sep 17 7.21pm
Originally posted by YT As I mentioned in another thread way back, Michaela, my 18th birthday treat (in 1977) was in The Old Mill in Bexley - a Berni Inn, or was it a Schooner Inn? One of those. You've just described 2 of the 3 courses I had! I am old enough to be able to tell you it was a Schooner. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 11 Sep 17 7.21pm

Originally posted by YT

I am old enough to be able to tell you it was a Schooner.

Big chest and massive boobs

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