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 Vaibow  vancouver/croydon 30 Apr 16 7.00pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Harry Webb is a gay Anglo-Indian who became a pop star during times that were socially conservative and turbulent so can understand his desire to be closeted. His decision to go to the Elm House gay and paedophile brothel was probably not his best ever choice - nor was his selection of mutual 'partygoers' at the time - but Cliff's worst crime I'd think has been The Lord's Prayer. He'd do anything for an Xmas no.1 The music video for 'somewhere over the rainbow/wonderful world' has to be up there. And make no mistake Hrolf, a lot of his family and friends and have turned against him.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 30 Apr 16 8.12pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Harry Webb is a gay Anglo-Indian who became a pop star during times that were socially conservative and turbulent so can understand his desire to be closeted. His decision to go to the Elm House gay and paedophile brothel was probably not his best ever choice - nor was his selection of mutual 'partygoers' at the time - but Cliff's worst crime I'd think has been The Lord's Prayer. He'd do anything for an Xmas no.1 You are a glass half Frog chorus rather than a glass half Live and let die sort of bloke aren't you.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 01 May 16 3.21pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Harry Webb is a gay Anglo-Indian who became a pop star during times that were socially conservative and turbulent so can understand his desire to be closeted. His decision to go to the Elm House gay and paedophile brothel was probably not his best ever choice - nor was his selection of mutual 'partygoers' at the time - but Cliff's worst crime I'd think has been The Lord's Prayer. He'd do anything for an Xmas no.1 It was quite a frequented gay hang out, due to the anonymity it provided. For a lot of gay men, especially those with a reputation or career, places like this were the only place they could really be themselves. Coming out probably would have been the end of his career; it just wasn't an option back then. Such locations would likely appeal to paedophiles groups as well, because the anonymity provides protection from exposure.
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Kermit8  Hevon 01 May 16 3.25pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
It was quite a frequented gay hang out, due to the anonymity it provided. For a lot of gay men, especially those with a reputation or career, places like this were the only place they could really be themselves. Coming out probably would have been the end of his career; it just wasn't an option back then. Such locations would likely appeal to paedophiles groups as well, because the anonymity provides protection from exposure.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 01 May 16 3.31pm |
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Originally posted by Vaibow
Who said it was? I'm just saying, the bloke is innocent. Still - think what you like, as you said, his true fans still support him, as do family and friends. I think he might be innocent, but that's done to a jury of his peers to confirm. Plenty of people who have been absolute and forthright about their total innocence and that all of the allegations are 'fantasy and total fabrication'. And then been found guilty beyond reasonable doubt of really terrible crimes. People don't tend to be honest about accusations of sex offences. They can be innocent, they can be guilty, all of Rolfs family stood alongside him proclaiming his innocence throughout the trial, and he's now back in court for another eight separate charges.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 01 May 16 3.32pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Not surprising though, if they're regular business. When I travel for work I tend to get discounts from hotels for block booking.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 01 May 16 3.56pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Not surprising though, if they're regular business. When I travel for work I tend to get discounts from hotels for block booking. Yeah - but you don't order the young boys that are on the menu. Just those legal age prostitutes who are never seen again. The Spartacus Club was a cover a paedophiles and pederasts. The Guest House were party to the er....party.
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| Jacey 01 May 16 4.00pm |
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Originally posted by Vaibow
The music video for 'somewhere over the rainbow/wonderful world' has to be up there. And make no mistake Hrolf, a lot of his family and friends and have turned against him. News to me that he is a gay, anglo Indian. Where is the evidence that 1) You allege he is gay and 2)He frequents seedy clubs frequented by gays and perverts. Seems a case of defamation of character or am I being naive.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 01 May 16 4.26pm |
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Originally posted by Jacey
News to me that he is a gay, anglo Indian. Where is the evidence that 1) You allege he is gay and 2)He frequents seedy clubs frequented by gays and perverts. Seems a case of defamation of character or am I being naive.
He was born in Lucknow. His parents had mixed Indian and British ancestry. Their names were Rodger and Dorothy. Harry appears to be in denial about his heritage and doesn't like to associated with the Anglo- Indian community unlike Engelbert Humperdinck. As for the brothel they kept guest lists. Edited by Kermit8 (01 May 2016 4.29pm)
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| Jacey 01 May 16 4.35pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
He was born in Lucknow. His parents had mixed Indian and British ancestry. Their names were Rodger and Dorothy. Harry appears to be in denial about his heritage and doesn't like to associated with the Anglo- Indian community unlike Engelbert Humperdinck. As for the brothel they kept guest lists. Edited by Kermit8 (01 May 2016 4.29pm) Thanks, very informative. As Michael Cain famously said " Not alot of people know that".
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| Jacey 01 May 16 5.01pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
He was born in Lucknow. His parents had mixed Indian and British ancestry. Their names were Rodger and Dorothy. Harry appears to be in denial about his heritage and doesn't like to associated with the Anglo- Indian community unlike Engelbert Humperdinck. As for the brothel they kept guest lists. Edited by Kermit8 (01 May 2016 4.29pm) Kermit8, Always believed that Cliff at some stage, had a strong association with the JW's in that apparently his mother and sisters all belong to that particular faith. In addition,his former band the Shadows,are all members of that said religion. Do they not preach that bad association spoils useful habits and if what you say about these allegations has any foundation, then I am surprised by the disclosure.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 10 May 16 5.19pm |
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Not out of the woods yet.
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