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jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 16 2.53pm
Originally posted by We are goin up! Why is it that we cannot appreciate that there is a difference between our genders? There's a reason shopping centres on a Saturday are chock full of girls (and whipped boyfriends) and football grounds are full of blokes. We have differences, it's great that we do. Of course there is difference, but there is also difference within those genders, which we certainly don't like to allow people to explore. Its the social conditioning of society that enforces a lot of those differences, and restrictions on people. Its interesting you mention football and shopping, as these are traditional gender areas, in which we've seen large changes in 'gender demographics'. Women at football and playing football, has become a bit of a growth area, as has men shopping. We are socially conditioned into gender roles and identities, as children. All I'm saying, is that we should allow children to explore and build their identity themselves. Most notably for men. Women don't seem to have been too happy with the idea of socially defined gender roles over the last hundred or so years. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 20 Apr 16 2.53pm

Originally posted by We are goin up!
Why is it that we cannot appreciate that there is a difference between our genders? There's a reason shopping centres on a Saturday are chock full of girls (and whipped boyfriends) and football grounds are full of blokes. We have differences, it's great that we do.

Of course there is difference, but there is also difference within those genders, which we certainly don't like to allow people to explore. Its the social conditioning of society that enforces a lot of those differences, and restrictions on people.

Its interesting you mention football and shopping, as these are traditional gender areas, in which we've seen large changes in 'gender demographics'. Women at football and playing football, has become a bit of a growth area, as has men shopping.

We are socially conditioned into gender roles and identities, as children. All I'm saying, is that we should allow children to explore and build their identity themselves. Most notably for men. Women don't seem to have been too happy with the idea of socially defined gender roles over the last hundred or so years.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 16 2.55pm
Originally posted by Stuk The left have done to death the 1% thing. But when it suits them they want to cater for the 0.1% I quite like this. Of course, its different when you have no choice in the matter. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 20 Apr 16 2.55pm

Originally posted by Stuk

The left have done to death the 1% thing.

But when it suits them they want to cater for the 0.1%

I quite like this.

Of course, its different when you have no choice in the matter.

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Stuk Top half 20 Apr 16 3.16pm
Originally posted by johnno42000 One of the problems of saying you're a tiger dragon or unicorn is which bogs you use. I can see the sense in boys, girls and trans but I don't want no damn unicorn pissing next to my grandchildren. Edited by johnno42000 (20 Apr 2016 1.38pm) Unicorns piss rainbows though. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 20 Apr 16 3.16pm

Originally posted by johnno42000

One of the problems of saying you're a tiger dragon or unicorn is which bogs you use. I can see the sense in boys, girls and trans but I don't want no damn unicorn pissing next to my grandchildren.

Edited by johnno42000 (20 Apr 2016 1.38pm)

Unicorns piss rainbows though.

Optimistic as ever

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johnno42000 20 Apr 16 3.33pm
Originally posted by Stuk Unicorns piss rainbows though. That's just to entice the children..all unicorns are kiddie fiddlers..well known fact down these parts 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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johnno42000

20 Apr 16 3.33pm

Originally posted by Stuk

Unicorns piss rainbows though.

That's just to entice the children..all unicorns are kiddie fiddlers..well known fact down these parts

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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DanH SW2 20 Apr 16 3.41pm
Originally posted by Stuk Unicorns piss rainbows though. Is this post why you got your yellow?
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SW2 20 Apr 16 3.41pm

Originally posted by Stuk

Unicorns piss rainbows though.

Is this post why you got your yellow?

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 20 Apr 16 3.42pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Are you born with bollocks, or do your bollocks descend? I do believe they descend but you're still born with them. The knob is there, in its correct place, from the off. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 20 Apr 16 3.42pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Are you born with bollocks, or do your bollocks descend?

I do believe they descend but you're still born with them. The knob is there, in its correct place, from the off.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Hrolf The Ganger 20 Apr 16 3.46pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Why shouldn't children choose their gender, based on their feelings, rather than have it defined by their parent. As long as they can change it periodically, I see no problem at all with it. But then it should be based also on children's perception of their gender, not a check list of acceptable terms. If they want to put their gender as Tiger Dragon, then that's fine with me also - as its their understanding of their gender that matters, not our preconceptions. This is sounding very much like the right to have babies. It is absurd. You are born with a gender and as an adult you can change it with drugs and surgery but that is about it. One day you might genetically modify yourself to any thing you like, but not just yet.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Why shouldn't children choose their gender, based on their feelings, rather than have it defined by their parent. As long as they can change it periodically, I see no problem at all with it.

But then it should be based also on children's perception of their gender, not a check list of acceptable terms. If they want to put their gender as Tiger Dragon, then that's fine with me also - as its their understanding of their gender that matters, not our preconceptions.

This is sounding very much like the right to have babies.

It is absurd. You are born with a gender and as an adult you can change it with drugs and surgery but that is about it.
One day you might genetically modify yourself to any thing you like, but not just yet.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 16 4.22pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger This is sounding very much like the right to have babies. It is absurd. You are born with a gender and as an adult you can change it with drugs and surgery but that is about it. One day you might genetically modify yourself to any thing you like, but not just yet. Well I know where I stand on the right to have children... There is gender, as a biological occurrence, and gender as a socially constructed concept. The two are very different. The latter is much more dominant in our ideas of male and female differences, than the biological. We are much more than simple slaves to our biological instincts and imperatives. Otherwise the roles of women and women's identity wouldn't have changed so much over the last 100 years. Its odd that we've embraced the 'expansion' of what a woman can be, to include adopting many 'aspects associated in the past with male gender identity' but not the reverse. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 20 Apr 16 4.22pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is sounding very much like the right to have babies.

Well I know where I stand on the right to have children...

There is gender, as a biological occurrence, and gender as a socially constructed concept. The two are very different. The latter is much more dominant in our ideas of male and female differences, than the biological.

We are much more than simple slaves to our biological instincts and imperatives. Otherwise the roles of women and women's identity wouldn't have changed so much over the last 100 years.

Its odd that we've embraced the 'expansion' of what a woman can be, to include adopting many 'aspects associated in the past with male gender identity' but not the reverse.

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Stuk Top half 20 Apr 16 4.23pm
Originally posted by DanH Is this post why you got your yellow? No it's was having the temerity to reply to someone, who had replied to me. Optimistic as ever
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Stuk

Top half 20 Apr 16 4.23pm

Originally posted by DanH

Is this post why you got your yellow?

No it's was having the temerity to reply to someone, who had replied to me.

Optimistic as ever

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jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 16 4.25pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt I do believe they descend but you're still born with them. The knob is there, in its correct place, from the off. You just spent a lifetime taking it from where it was supposed to be, and inserting it where its 'not supposed to go'. Its a very narrow view though of gender. And its certainly not how society entirely defines gender either, that's more socialised behaviour. I don't think we're biologically predisposed towards certain values, roles, styles of dress, hair style, toys etc. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 20 Apr 16 4.25pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I do believe they descend but you're still born with them. The knob is there, in its correct place, from the off.

You just spent a lifetime taking it from where it was supposed to be, and inserting it where its 'not supposed to go'.

Its a very narrow view though of gender. And its certainly not how society entirely defines gender either, that's more socialised behaviour. I don't think we're biologically predisposed towards certain values, roles, styles of dress, hair style, toys etc.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Buzzcock In an underground lair near Bright... 20 Apr 16 4.50pm
A slight aside but why do women spend a ridiculously short time on the toilet when doing a number 2? To a man it's a ceremony. You take a book, browse the web, even bring your drink in with you. I find it particular useful for placing my weekend bets and have a far higher win ratio when my trousers are around my ankles. In the woods there grew a tree. And a fine fine tree was he.
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In an underground lair near Bright... 20 Apr 16 4.50pm

A slight aside but why do women spend a ridiculously short time on the toilet when doing a number 2?
To a man it's a ceremony. You take a book, browse the web, even bring your drink in with you.
I find it particular useful for placing my weekend bets and have a far higher win ratio when my trousers are around my ankles.

In the woods there grew a tree. And a fine fine tree was he.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 16 5.00pm
Originally posted by Buzzcock A slight aside but why do women spend a ridiculously short time on the toilet when doing a number 2? To a man it's a ceremony. You take a book, browse the web, even bring your drink in with you. I find it particular useful for placing my weekend bets and have a far higher win ratio when my trousers are around my ankles. I always assumed it was because they still had house work to do, and their brains were too small to be able to read? "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 20 Apr 16 5.00pm

Originally posted by Buzzcock

I always assumed it was because they still had house work to do, and their brains were too small to be able to read?

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