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jamiemartin721 Reading 23 Nov 15 11.44am | |
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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 23 Nov 2015 10.49am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 23 Nov 2015 10.09am
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 22 Nov 2015 8.26pm
It's Christmas the clue is in the name. You can stick your coca cola Christmas up your arse. It is unbelievable that leading up to Christmas something as simple as the Lords Prayer is not allowed to be advertised but everyone creams their pants over Waitrose / John Lewis whatever adverts. I am not religious but we are a Christian country, why shouldn't the Lord's Prayer be advertised. If it's that big a deal go buy a kiaora whilst it's on. The lords prayer has nothing to do with Christmas. We are not a Christian country either (Church and State were separated hundreds of years ago) and how exactly is a prayer an advert, that seems gauche to me. Should religion even be advertising - what is it selling? This gods is for you? The Unreal thing, St Julian, reaches the spiritual parts other saints cannot reach. Rather absurd, and it demeans the nature and essence of Religion to advertise in a commercial spot.
Christ was apparently God's son (if you are a believer, not to be confused with a beleiber) Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, well is meant to before it became sponsored by Coca Cola and American films for TV with characters with the surname Cringle. So as Christmas is a religious time it is connected. As for whether we are a Christian country, in 2010 64% of people identified themselves as Christian. So essentially any prayer is associated with Christmas? (which isn't the date of Christ's birth but that of Mythras, a pagan deity co-opted by the early church). Personally, I think Christmas has become far more of a secular celebration or pan-religious (most Hindus and Muslims I know celebrate Christmas in some aspect or another). I'm happy for Christians to celebrate the day on which their lord wasn't actually born, and quite agree with the sentiments of the Coca Colonisation of the holidays. Even as an atheist, I celebrate Christmas and the spirit of Christmas to an extent, admittedly not a religious one. But advertising 'Christ' seems a bit gauche and disrespectful, putting the Lords Prayer up among sexualised adverts for Chewing Gum, Coca Cola and assorted slots aimed at 'monopolising the comerical aspect' of Christmas. Who is it aimed at? Certainly, not Christians, I'm pretty sure they're all quite well established and aware of all things Church, god and Christ related. 64% of the UK self Identify as Christian (59.3 I think was the census return), however church attendences are around 6% so it does depend on where you draw the definition. How many are actually practising Christians? Islam makes up 4.8% of the population, and has attendences matching Christianity. So it could be as much a Muslim Country as a Christian Country, as there are almost as many Muslims attending Mosques as Christians attending church. Either way that doesn't make this a Christian country, it makes it a country with a majority of Christians, who presumably don't need an advert of the Lords Prayer. It isn't either, the UK is a country of UK citizens who all have the same legal rights. Being Christian doesn't make you special, or entitle you to special privilege, the same rules apply (and in this case the Cinema's rules on promotion of politics and religion apply).
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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Nov 15 12.38pm | |
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I love a good Christmas squabble. Christmas was a pagan festival, adapted by the Romans and then by Christians. It is not Jesus' birthday and can be observed however one likes. If there is one thing I like less than progressive liberalism, it is indignant religious types telling us that we are all wicked sinners for enjoying a bit of self indulgence over the holiday period. Get a life.
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Pawson Palace Croydon 23 Nov 15 1.27pm | |
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James O'Brian just smashed it. This is like the church rocking up to a nightclub in trainers and being turned away at the door for it and saying "its cos I iz Christian". The rule was in place WAY before this advert was made.
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matt_himself Matataland 23 Nov 15 1.34pm | |
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Quote Pawson Palace at 23 Nov 2015 1.27pm
James O'Brian just smashed it. This is like the church rocking up to a nightclub in trainers and being turned away at the door for it and saying "its cos I iz Christian". The rule was in place WAY before this advert was made.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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Lyons550 Shirley 23 Nov 15 1.43pm | |
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Quote OldFella at 22 Nov 2015 11.03am
Quote Catfish at 22 Nov 2015 10.52am
As an atheist I am also uncomfortable with this. Provided that both religious and humanist messages can be conveyed by the same media then I can't see the problem. I would be interested to know whether Christian evangelists would support other religious sects who want to publicise their message in the same way. I'm an atheist also - but my opinion differs. Why should we be "force fed" religion on an afternoon/evening out at the cinema?
Edited by Lyons550 (23 Nov 2015 1.44pm)
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Lyons550 Shirley 23 Nov 15 1.47pm | |
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Quote ASCPFC at 22 Nov 2015 3.22pm
We've been fed Jewish crap by Hollywood for years, why not have some Christian advertising?
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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Nov 15 1.57pm | |
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Quote Lyons550 at 23 Nov 2015 1.47pm
Quote ASCPFC at 22 Nov 2015 3.22pm
We've been fed Jewish crap by Hollywood for years, why not have some Christian advertising?
Praise the Lord.
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Stuk Top half 23 Nov 15 3.35pm | |
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Quote matt_himself at 23 Nov 2015 1.34pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 23 Nov 2015 1.27pm
James O'Brian just smashed it. This is like the church rocking up to a nightclub in trainers and being turned away at the door for it and saying "its cos I iz Christian". The rule was in place WAY before this advert was made.
tshepp897 and topcat summed it up best for me.
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matt_himself Matataland 23 Nov 15 4.21pm | |
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Quote Stuk at 23 Nov 2015 3.35pm
Quote matt_himself at 23 Nov 2015 1.34pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 23 Nov 2015 1.27pm
James O'Brian just smashed it. This is like the church rocking up to a nightclub in trainers and being turned away at the door for it and saying "its cos I iz Christian". The rule was in place WAY before this advert was made.
tshepp897 and topcat summed it up best for me. The two organisations appear at odds and are sending out conflicting messages. That is all.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Nov 15 4.25pm | |
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Quote matt_himself at 23 Nov 2015 4.21pm
Quote Stuk at 23 Nov 2015 3.35pm
Quote matt_himself at 23 Nov 2015 1.34pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 23 Nov 2015 1.27pm
James O'Brian just smashed it. This is like the church rocking up to a nightclub in trainers and being turned away at the door for it and saying "its cos I iz Christian". The rule was in place WAY before this advert was made.
tshepp897 and topcat summed it up best for me. The two organisations appear at odds and are sending out conflicting messages. That is all. In keeping with religious matters I'd say.
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Stuk Top half 23 Nov 15 4.25pm | |
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Quote matt_himself at 23 Nov 2015 4.21pm
Quote Stuk at 23 Nov 2015 3.35pm
Quote matt_himself at 23 Nov 2015 1.34pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 23 Nov 2015 1.27pm
James O'Brian just smashed it. This is like the church rocking up to a nightclub in trainers and being turned away at the door for it and saying "its cos I iz Christian". The rule was in place WAY before this advert was made.
tshepp897 and topcat summed it up best for me. The two organisations appear at odds and are sending out conflicting messages. That is all. The two organisations are independent. One decides what can or can't be banned from any cinema, the other decides what it does and doesn't want to show in it's cinemas. Same as any TV channel. Just because someone makes an advert, you don't have to take their money and show it on your channel.
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matt_himself Matataland 23 Nov 15 6.43pm | |
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Quote Stuk at 23 Nov 2015 4.25pm
Quote matt_himself at 23 Nov 2015 4.21pm
Quote Stuk at 23 Nov 2015 3.35pm
Quote matt_himself at 23 Nov 2015 1.34pm
Quote Pawson Palace at 23 Nov 2015 1.27pm
James O'Brian just smashed it. This is like the church rocking up to a nightclub in trainers and being turned away at the door for it and saying "its cos I iz Christian". The rule was in place WAY before this advert was made.
tshepp897 and topcat summed it up best for me. The two organisations appear at odds and are sending out conflicting messages. That is all. The two organisations are independent. One decides what can or can't be banned from any cinema, the other decides what it does and doesn't want to show in it's cinemas. Same as any TV channel. Just because someone makes an advert, you don't have to take their money and show it on your channel. What you say in paragraph one appears to state that both organisations do the same thing but you have used different semantics to describe their roles.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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