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Kermit8 Hevon 26 Sep 15 5.17pm
I'll never understand why some people are so wet-knickered scared of Muslims. I thought we had more backbone in this country but you can just smell the fear. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 26 Sep 15 5.17pm

I'll never understand why some people are so wet-knickered scared of Muslims. I thought we had more backbone in this country but you can just smell the fear.

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 26 Sep 15 5.24pm
Quote Kermit8 at 26 Sep 2015 5.17pm I'll never understand why some people are so wet-knickered scared of Muslims. I thought we had more backbone in this country but you can just smell the fear. Tell me about it - the rumour is that some have even run off as far as Dorset just to get away from them "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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I'll never understand why some people are so wet-knickered scared of Muslims. I thought we had more backbone in this country but you can just smell the fear.

Tell me about it - the rumour is that some have even run off as far as Dorset just to get away from them

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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oldcodger 26 Sep 15 5.25pm
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 4.58pm Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 4.50pm Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 4.30pm Quote nickgusset at 26 Sep 2015 12.00pm Quote susmik at 26 Sep 2015 11.55am Quote nickgusset at 26 Sep 2015 11.50am Quote susmik at 26 Sep 2015 11.48am Quote nickgusset at 26 Sep 2015 11.02am Quote susmik at 26 Sep 2015 10.52am Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Sep 2015 10.37am Quote nickgusset at 26 Sep 2015 10.22am Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 9.52am Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 Sep 2015 9.49am Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 9.46am Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 Sep 2015 9.36am [Link] How pathetic........ if anything this man should have received better treatment as a serving officer of our armed forces, not hidden away for fear of offending other "cultures". This sort of stuff makes my blood boil......... How dare you even say that Hoof - really you should show far more respect than that. I do believe you must be a racist for even starting a thread like this. Besides, to serve in the British armed forces means that he must have been racist too. Some people will see it like that Tom! I wonder how the guy who just appeared on Sky news this mornings will see it? Still, it was probably the fault of the 9 year old girl. Raping c@nt [Link] Edited by Tom-the-eagle (26 Sep 2015 9.57am) WTF has that got to do with a bad decision by a hospital? Mods have a word. This is just Muslim bashing. Edited by nickgusset (26 Sep 2015 10.28am) Is the correct answer. Apparently no one read the article or, if they did, they looked at the picture but couldn't actually read. Is not the correct answer and I read the complete article. it quotes: “This employee was acting in good faith because previously, there had been an altercation between a member of the public and a different member of the armed forces in uniform.” If that was the case previously then the notice should have been made more prominent, where I might add is in any doctors or hospital, that anyone causing a problem will be asked to leave, and this means anyone. So if some objects to a member of the armed forces being there and picks on them, then that person should be ejected and let the service man sit in peace. I am afraid this country is bending and leaning towards ANYONE but the right people IMO....it is getting bad really bad now. That may be the case. But it's got sod all to do with a rape case! But this thread is about a hospital hiding a sick serviceman Nick?? Read Tom the eagles post at 9.54 My posts are to do with the serviceman in hospital and NOTHING to do with any rape case Nick. I know. But Tom the eagles was. That was my point, it's nothing to do with the hospital but he saw it as an opportunity for a bit of Muslim bashing. I completely saw it as an opportunity for a bit of Muslim bashing. In fact, I think we as the main stream society should do a lot more Muslim bashing, I would rather that than having to hide away our serviceman and bending over backwards in case we offend someone. Pretty much every conflict around the world is due to Muslims Nick, every other day some Muslim is had up for rape in this country, I’m just saying it how I see it. At least you're honest then and don't feel the need to hide or obscure your views like many so credit to you for that. It doesn't make what you've said any less unfortunate though. The vast, vast majority of muslims or people of other religions or no religion aren't raping anyone and it's tragic I should need to point that out. You've become exactly what you hate in others and it's unfortunate that anyone on here would excuse anything you've said. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 4.51pm) Are you serious? ISIS are raping women on a MASS scale everyday! so when you say I have become what I hate - eh, no I have not! Edited by Tom-the-eagle (26 Sep 2015 4.59pm) You were talking about this country. Also, just because ISIS exists it doesn't mean that all muslims are bloodthirsty and raping women. There are plenty of good people around. It's sad that this dross passes for currency around here. You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering, ISIS afffiliated rapists, then when millions of decent sane muslims try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.28pm)
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How pathetic........ if anything this man should have received better treatment as a serving officer of our armed forces, not hidden away for fear of offending other "cultures".

This sort of stuff makes my blood boil.........

How dare you even say that Hoof - really you should show far more respect than that. I do believe you must be a racist for even starting a thread like this. Besides, to serve in the British armed forces means that he must have been racist too.

Some people will see it like that Tom!

I wonder how the guy who just appeared on Sky news this mornings will see it?

Still, it was probably the fault of the 9 year old girl. Raping c@nt

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Edited by Tom-the-eagle (26 Sep 2015 9.57am)

WTF has that got to do with a bad decision by a hospital?

Mods have a word. This is just Muslim bashing.

Edited by nickgusset (26 Sep 2015 10.28am)

Is the correct answer. Apparently no one read the article or, if they did, they looked at the picture but couldn't actually read.

Is not the correct answer and I read the complete article.
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“This employee was acting in good faith because previously, there had been an altercation between a member of the public and a different member of the armed forces in uniform.”

If that was the case previously then the notice should have been made more prominent, where I might add is in any doctors or hospital, that anyone causing a problem will be asked to leave, and this means anyone. So if some objects to a member of the armed forces being there and picks on them, then that person should be ejected and let the service man sit in peace. I am afraid this country is bending and leaning towards ANYONE but the right people IMO....it is getting bad really bad now.

That may be the case. But it's got sod all to do with a rape case!

But this thread is about a hospital hiding a sick serviceman Nick??

Read Tom the eagles post at 9.54

My posts are to do with the serviceman in hospital and NOTHING to do with any rape case Nick.

I know. But Tom the eagles was. That was my point, it's nothing to do with the hospital but he saw it as an opportunity for a bit of Muslim bashing.

I completely saw it as an opportunity for a bit of Muslim bashing. In fact, I think we as the main stream society should do a lot more Muslim bashing, I would rather that than having to hide away our serviceman and bending over backwards in case we offend someone.
Pretty much every conflict around the world is due to Muslims Nick, every other day some Muslim is had up for rape in this country, I’m just saying it how I see it.

At least you're honest then and don't feel the need to hide or obscure your views like many so credit to you for that. It doesn't make what you've said any less unfortunate though. The vast, vast majority of muslims or people of other religions or no religion aren't raping anyone and it's tragic I should need to point that out. You've become exactly what you hate in others and it's unfortunate that anyone on here would excuse anything you've said.

Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 4.51pm)

Are you serious? ISIS are raping women on a MASS scale everyday! so when you say I have become what I hate - eh, no I have not!

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (26 Sep 2015 4.59pm)

You were talking about this country. Also, just because ISIS exists it doesn't mean that all muslims are bloodthirsty and raping women. There are plenty of good people around. It's sad that this dross passes for currency around here.

You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering, ISIS afffiliated rapists, then when millions of decent sane muslims try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take.

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sydtheeagle England 26 Sep 15 5.26pm
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 4.30pm every other day some Muslim is had up for rape in this country, Yep. And every day even more white, English born, blue-blooded UK citizens are had up for rape in this country too. What's your point? Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Sep 2015 5.26pm) Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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England 26 Sep 15 5.26pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 4.30pm

every other day some Muslim is had up for rape in this country,

Yep. And every day even more white, English born, blue-blooded UK citizens are had up for rape in this country too. What's your point?

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Kermit8 Hevon 26 Sep 15 5.26pm
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.24pm Quote Kermit8 at 26 Sep 2015 5.17pm I'll never understand why some people are so wet-knickered scared of Muslims. I thought we had more backbone in this country but you can just smell the fear. Tell me about it - the rumour is that some have even run off as far as Dorset just to get away from them Well they are in for a shock. Muslims live in the West Country too. That'll teach them. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 26 Sep 15 5.26pm

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.24pm

Quote Kermit8 at 26 Sep 2015 5.17pm

I'll never understand why some people are so wet-knickered scared of Muslims. I thought we had more backbone in this country but you can just smell the fear.

Tell me about it - the rumour is that some have even run off as far as Dorset just to get away from them

Well they are in for a shock. Muslims live in the West Country too. That'll teach them.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Sep 15 5.29pm
Totally unacceptable treatment. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Totally unacceptable treatment.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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sydtheeagle England 26 Sep 15 5.34pm
Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 5.25pm You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering ISIS rapists, then when millions of them who obviously aren't part of ISIS and are decent sane people try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.25pm) Could not agree with you more. It's hard to believe my dad fought in a war against fascism so people like Tom would be at liberty to spout this sort of crap. He'd be turning in his grave if he heard it. Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Sep 2015 5.34pm) Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 5.25pm

You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering ISIS rapists, then when millions of them who obviously aren't part of ISIS and are decent sane people try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take.

Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.25pm)

Could not agree with you more. It's hard to believe my dad fought in a war against fascism so people like Tom would be at liberty to spout this sort of crap. He'd be turning in his grave if he heard it.

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JL85 London,SE9 26 Sep 15 5.37pm
Quote dannyh at 26 Sep 2015 2.28pm Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 2.07pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 Sep 2015 12.46pm Let's not water down the serious nature of what happened in the hospital by deflecting attention away from it, by saying we are muslim bashing. The article does not say that the culture in question was muslim, but I rather suspect it was muslim's feelings about servicemen that were being "spared". It says a lot about our society that already two of you on here are more outraged that a link has been made to a Muslim rape case than the blatant disregard for the feelings of an injured serviceman that cannot even go to hospital in his uniform for fear of reprisal or abuse by secular members of our society. It also stiffens my resolve to campaign for no more "asylum seekers/economic migrants" to be allowed to settle here as their culture does not dovetail with our own. People can 'rather suspect' what they like and it may have been a muslim, but it could've been someone who was generally anti war, iraq war or whatever. We can all agree that it's monumentally stupid to confront someone sick in a hospital bed and to let that dictate what happened to the Sgt, but it's hardly sensible to let it influence your feelings about muslims or 'asylum seekers' based on this incident. An incident where we don't even yet know a thing about what happened previously. You fail to see that glossing over a completely random 'muslim rapist' story, before then yourself saying that you suspect a muslim was involved and it has 'siffened your resolve' contributes to this cycle of madness. Now we have the post after yours with its 'murdering, raping, sadists' 'joke' feeding it further. Let's stop using victims of mistreatment to score points because we see here how well that works out. Sadly some of you are much too close in behaviour to the very people you appear to despise. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 2.12pm) I congratulate you, that is the most handringing apologistic clap trap I have ever read on these boards by some margin. An injured service man was moved in case his uniform offended those in the waiting room, Just how could a British serviceman's uniform offend you ? Tell you something if they asked me to move, I would've said why, and if they had the balls to tell me, I would have made a point of standing and singing god save the queen at the top of my voice, and telling anyone who was "offended" that this is my country, I am part of the organisation that defends it, and if you don't like it, f* off and get free health care from which ever s* hole you came from ... oh wait no you can't because they don't have an NHS. fcking chancers piss off!! The irony being, of course, that you're defending said persons right to be offended by your uniform. If some helmet is offended by a soldiers uniform, then its says to me we don't see these uniforms enough in public these days, which is a shame.
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Let's not water down the serious nature of what happened in the hospital by deflecting attention away from it, by saying we are muslim bashing.

The article does not say that the culture in question was muslim, but I rather suspect it was muslim's feelings about servicemen that were being "spared".

It says a lot about our society that already two of you on here are more outraged that a link has been made to a Muslim rape case than the blatant disregard for the feelings of an injured serviceman that cannot even go to hospital in his uniform for fear of reprisal or abuse by secular members of our society.

It also stiffens my resolve to campaign for no more "asylum seekers/economic migrants" to be allowed to settle here as their culture does not dovetail with our own.

People can 'rather suspect' what they like and it may have been a muslim, but it could've been someone who was generally anti war, iraq war or whatever. We can all agree that it's monumentally stupid to confront someone sick in a hospital bed and to let that dictate what happened to the Sgt, but it's hardly sensible to let it influence your feelings about muslims or 'asylum seekers' based on this incident. An incident where we don't even yet know a thing about what happened previously.

You fail to see that glossing over a completely random 'muslim rapist' story, before then yourself saying that you suspect a muslim was involved and it has 'siffened your resolve' contributes to this cycle of madness. Now we have the post after yours with its 'murdering, raping, sadists' 'joke' feeding it further. Let's stop using victims of mistreatment to score points because we see here how well that works out. Sadly some of you are much too close in behaviour to the very people you appear to despise.

Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 2.12pm)

I congratulate you, that is the most handringing apologistic clap trap I have ever read on these boards by some margin.

An injured service man was moved in case his uniform offended those in the waiting room, Just how could a British serviceman's uniform offend you ?

Tell you something if they asked me to move, I would've said why, and if they had the balls to tell me, I would have made a point of standing and singing god save the queen at the top of my voice, and telling anyone who was "offended" that this is my country, I am part of the organisation that defends it, and if you don't like it, f*** off and get free health care from which ever s*** hole you came from ... oh wait no you can't because they don't have an NHS. fcking chancers piss off!!

The irony being, of course, that you're defending said persons right to be offended by your uniform.

If some helmet is offended by a soldiers uniform, then its says to me we don't see these uniforms enough in public these days, which is a shame.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Sep 15 5.42pm
Being able to take offense is a requirement of a democracy. People need to grow the fk up and understand that what they think are just ideas, not some rule by which others must abide. I'd have sacked the person if they worked for me, not because the guy was a service man, but because the hospital staff involved were t*s of the highest order. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Being able to take offense is a requirement of a democracy. People need to grow the f**k up and understand that what they think are just ideas, not some rule by which others must abide.

I'd have sacked the person if they worked for me, not because the guy was a service man, but because the hospital staff involved were t***s of the highest order.

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 26 Sep 15 5.48pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.34pm Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 5.25pm You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering ISIS rapists, then when millions of them who obviously aren't part of ISIS and are decent sane people try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.25pm) Could not agree with you more. It's hard to believe my dad fought in a war against fascism so people like Tom would be at liberty to spout this sort of crap. He'd be turning in his grave if he heard it. Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Sep 2015 5.34pm) What did I say that was crap? Please paste whatever it was What I said was that Muslims are behind most conflicts in the world and that Muslims are also carrying out wide spread rapes. Both are very sad facts i'm afraid. You can disagree all you like. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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What did I say that was crap?

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What I said was that Muslims are behind most conflicts in the world and that Muslims are also carrying out wide spread rapes. Both are very sad facts i'm afraid. You can disagree all you like.

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oldcodger 26 Sep 15 5.50pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.34pm Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 5.25pm You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering ISIS rapists, then when millions of them who obviously aren't part of ISIS and are decent sane people try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.25pm) Could not agree with you more. It's hard to believe my dad fought in a war against fascism so people like Tom would be at liberty to spout this sort of crap. He'd be turning in his grave if he heard it. Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Sep 2015 5.34pm) I think these things are a delicate balance and we need to dissuade people of all creeds from flying off in various unhelpful directions. It's both important to highlight the feral nature of comments like Tom's and also to say that if people are offended by the uniform that is their problem and we are not obliged to accommodate them. If they too show feral tendencies they should be rewarded with a free overnight stay in a cell instead of a hospital. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.51pm)
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I think these things are a delicate balance and we need to dissuade people of all creeds from flying off in various unhelpful directions. It's both important to highlight the feral nature of comments like Tom's and also to say that if people are offended by the uniform that is their problem and we are not obliged to accommodate them. If they too show feral tendencies they should be rewarded with a free overnight stay in a cell instead of a hospital.

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Kermit8 Hevon 26 Sep 15 5.55pm
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.48pm Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.34pm Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 5.25pm You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering ISIS rapists, then when millions of them who obviously aren't part of ISIS and are decent sane people try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.25pm) Could not agree with you more. It's hard to believe my dad fought in a war against fascism so people like Tom would be at liberty to spout this sort of crap. He'd be turning in his grave if he heard it. Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Sep 2015 5.34pm) What did I say that was crap? Please paste whatever it was What I said was that Muslims are behind most conflicts in the world and that Muslims are also carrying out wide spread rapes. Both are very sad facts i'm afraid. You can disagree all you like. Wrong. The nastier conflicts by numbers killed are in mostly Muslim countries but from the list of ongoing stuff worldwide the majority are not Muslim related. The vast majority of rapes too in the UK are not committed by Muslims. There may be a disproportionality thing happening I don't know. Pleased to rain on your stupid crusade. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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What did I say that was crap?

Please paste whatever it was

What I said was that Muslims are behind most conflicts in the world and that Muslims are also carrying out wide spread rapes. Both are very sad facts i'm afraid. You can disagree all you like.

Wrong. The nastier conflicts by numbers killed are in mostly Muslim countries but from the list of ongoing stuff worldwide the majority are not Muslim related.

The vast majority of rapes too in the UK are not committed by Muslims. There may be a disproportionality thing happening I don't know.

Pleased to rain on your stupid crusade.

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