Whilst I agree it takes two to tango & certainly the fella must habour plenty of the blame, its the woman with the v***** & the organs capable of having kids, A woman should take more care after all she has to carry it for 9 months & gets legal custody (in most cases) over said child.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (22 Jun 2015 11.45pm)

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I agree that is an issue, but why not instead raise the minimum wage and provide greater job security instead of slashing away people's benefits off the back of a few examples of misuse?

Hoof says that this woman is an example of our country becoming a 'fcuking joke', which I think is ridiculous as she probably represents a couple of hundred people out of the 60 million in this country who are really, really taking the piss. What I would say is more of a joke is that the taxpayer now subsidises a) corporations who pay their workers a wage which they can't live on, b) railway companies who own train networks but don't have to pay for rail maintenance, c) landlords who are driving up the rent of those who need government hand outs just to pay them. People talk about austerity rebalancing the books, but actually what it really is is daylight robbery. The poor continue to pay a higher proportion of tax than the mega-rich, and the rich continue to rake in the cash from that tax!

And it really isn't hard to find out what is being taken away from disabled people. Yes, you can focus on the bedroom tax, which is in itself scandalous when you regard the general demographic of who is paying it, but actually the cuts to the ILF, cuts to local government agencies responsible for caring for the disabled and cuts to welfare are having a far greater effect. The independent living fund provides support to 18000 disabled people. How the f*ck have we ended up in a society which deems there not to be enough money to provide for those, who are quite probably the 18000 most vulnerable in our society?

Ultimately, no system is ever going to be totally efficient or totally fair. Having generous welfare will lead to stories such as this one where people take the piss. But I would prefer to live in a society where people do that, than in a society where we have a welfare system which leaves thousands of our most vulnerable without the adequate conditions to survive, and the terrifying thing is, that is what the Tories are creating.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

Right because men they just play no role - Men just can't help themselves if offered sex.

I agree that the pressure and responsibilities often, and unfairly, end up on the woman. But if you have kids, they're your responsibility, not mine.

In all likelihood, given she has two kids by each father, its probably a case of a relationship that's broken down.

But men are equally responsible for the consequences of their actions. I can't abide a father who wouldn't stand by his kids and provide for them.

ps. Mother nature - please.

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You are absolutely right, for completely the wrong reason. Women need to make sure that they aren't going to get impregnated by ignorant men who believe it's their God-given right to throw their spoodge wherever they choose while letting everyone else deal with the consequences. Mother Nature be damned.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

The one (or both) who fails to take responsibility, before or after.

For what it's worth, the male option - as you describe it - is probably the easiest, cheapest, most accessible and most effective contraceptive. It's really entirely a man's fault if he knocks-up someone because he didn't wear one.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

I do not see why women should not be on the pill all the time unless they plan to have children.

Condoms are not as affective as they claim to be which is why proper teaching will state two methods should be used the male condom really is more prevention of std/sti

I don't agree blaming the man how is it both parties are at fault but really the women should be more responsible considering it is her body this is old fashion everything siding with the women.

Back to the story this is terrible how women get away with this sort of thing if this was a man he would be in a lot of trouble with the kids being taken straight of him (women have way too many rights now especially when it comes to kids)

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