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legaleagle Flag 19 Jun 15 6.06pm

I only tend to brand individuals worthy of the description as being "racist" or holding racist views. I quite agree the description should only be used appropriately.

I note you say racism is evil,thus you also presumably feel those who express racist views are expressing evil sentiments.

Regarding religion,I was responding to the post quoted above my post,which did concern "christian" nutters in the US.

 
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derben Flag 19 Jun 15 6.24pm

Quote legaleagle at 19 Jun 2015 6.06pm

I only tend to brand individuals worthy of the description as being "racist" or holding racist views. I quite agree the description should only be used appropriately.

I note you say racism is evil,thus you also presumably feel those who express racist views are expressing evil sentiments.

Regarding religion,I was responding to the post quoted above my post,which did concern "christian" nutters in the US.

Thanks for the veiled accusations that I am a racist - you should have the courage of your prejudices and just come right out and say it. Whether people are expressing evil sentiments depends very much on what they are actually saying. If someone says 'all black people should be killed', or 'all infidels should be killed', then certainly they are expressing evil sentiments. When John Terry called a black player who provoked him, 'a black c**t', I don't think he was expressing an evil sentiment. Politically correct puritans and thought police, who abound these days, seem to consider practically anything capable of a 'racist' interpretation. A good example is Carol Thatcher being sacked for merely saying someone's hairstyle reminded her of the logo on Robinson's jam jars. Presumably you think Carol was being an evil racist and expressing evil sentiments.

 
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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Jun 15 6.49pm

Quote derben at 19 Jun 2015 6.24pm

Quote legaleagle at 19 Jun 2015 6.06pm

I only tend to brand individuals worthy of the description as being "racist" or holding racist views. I quite agree the description should only be used appropriately.

I note you say racism is evil,thus you also presumably feel those who express racist views are expressing evil sentiments.

Regarding religion,I was responding to the post quoted above my post,which did concern "christian" nutters in the US.

Thanks for the veiled accusations that I am a racist - you should have the courage of your prejudices and just come right out and say it. Whether people are expressing evil sentiments depends very much on what they are actually saying. If someone says 'all black people should be killed', or 'all infidels should be killed', then certainly they are expressing evil sentiments. When John Terry called a black player who provoked him, 'a black c**t', I don't think he was expressing an evil sentiment. Politically correct puritans and thought police, who abound these days, seem to consider practically anything capable of a 'racist' interpretation. A good example is Carol Thatcher being sacked for merely saying someone's hairstyle reminded her of the logo on Robinson's jam jars. Presumably you think Carol was being an evil racist and expressing evil sentiments.

She wasn't being an evil racist. But like it or not,
Carol Thatcher was crass in her use of the word and well knew (or should know)the semantic connotations of the word in modern society.

 
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derben Flag 19 Jun 15 6.59pm

Quote nickgusset at 19 Jun 2015 6.49pm

Quote derben at 19 Jun 2015 6.24pm

Quote legaleagle at 19 Jun 2015 6.06pm

I only tend to brand individuals worthy of the description as being "racist" or holding racist views. I quite agree the description should only be used appropriately.

I note you say racism is evil,thus you also presumably feel those who express racist views are expressing evil sentiments.

Regarding religion,I was responding to the post quoted above my post,which did concern "christian" nutters in the US.

Thanks for the veiled accusations that I am a racist - you should have the courage of your prejudices and just come right out and say it. Whether people are expressing evil sentiments depends very much on what they are actually saying. If someone says 'all black people should be killed', or 'all infidels should be killed', then certainly they are expressing evil sentiments. When John Terry called a black player who provoked him, 'a black c**t', I don't think he was expressing an evil sentiment. Politically correct puritans and thought police, who abound these days, seem to consider practically anything capable of a 'racist' interpretation. A good example is Carol Thatcher being sacked for merely saying someone's hairstyle reminded her of the logo on Robinson's jam jars. Presumably you think Carol was being an evil racist and expressing evil sentiments.

She wasn't being an evil racist. But like it or not,
Carol Thatcher was crass in her use of the word and well knew (or should know)the semantic connotations of the word in modern society.

You seriously think it justified that someone loses their job over it?

Edited by derben (19 Jun 2015 7.00pm)

 
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Quote derben at 19 Jun 2015 5.29pm

So have I got this right? When an outrage involves a white Christian, religion is central to them doing it, but when it is a non-white Muslim, religion has got nothing to do with it?


Nope, other way around. Any crime by - let me pick a religion at random - a Muslim, is deemed to be terrorism because Islam is inherently evil. Any crime by a Christian, even when clearly perpetrated with terrorist goals in mind, is treated as a lone nutjob who just lost the plot for a day and nothing to see here...move along.

 

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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sydtheeagle Flag England 19 Jun 15 7.05pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

So the killer had the flags of Rhodesia and old South Africa sewn into his jacket and reports have emerged that he said "“You rape our women and you’re taking over our country” as he opened fire. And we're having a discussion about whether it was a racist attack. I see.

 

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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derben Flag 19 Jun 15 7.12pm

Quote Ray in Houston at 19 Jun 2015 7.01pm

Quote derben at 19 Jun 2015 5.29pm

So have I got this right? When an outrage involves a white Christian, religion is central to them doing it, but when it is a non-white Muslim, religion has got nothing to do with it?


Nope, other way around. Any crime by - let me pick a religion at random - a Muslim, is deemed to be terrorism because Islam is inherently evil. Any crime by a Christian, even when clearly perpetrated with terrorist goals in mind, is treated as a lone nutjob who just lost the plot for a day and nothing to see here...move along.

Muslim terrorist outrages are almost always accompanied by reference to their religion - shouting 'Allah Snack Bar' as they blow up, and the post-outrage justification videos always reference their religion. Lone nut jobs like the current American case only seem to involve religion in that the killings were in a church. Has a religious motive been found - happy to accept it if it has.

 
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legaleagle Flag 19 Jun 15 7.13pm

Quote derben at 19 Jun 2015 6.24pm

Quote legaleagle at 19 Jun 2015 6.06pm

I only tend to brand individuals worthy of the description as being "racist" or holding racist views. I quite agree the description should only be used appropriately.

I note you say racism is evil,thus you also presumably feel those who express racist views are expressing evil sentiments.

Regarding religion,I was responding to the post quoted above my post,which did concern "christian" nutters in the US.

Thanks for the veiled accusations that I am a racist - you should have the courage of your prejudices and just come right out and say it. Whether people are expressing evil sentiments depends very much on what they are actually saying. If someone says 'all black people should be killed', or 'all infidels should be killed', then certainly they are expressing evil sentiments. When John Terry called a black player who provoked him, 'a black c**t', I don't think he was expressing an evil sentiment. Politically correct puritans and thought police, who abound these days, seem to consider practically anything capable of a 'racist' interpretation. A good example is Carol Thatcher being sacked for merely saying someone's hairstyle reminded her of the logo on Robinson's jam jars. Presumably you think Carol was being an evil racist and expressing evil sentiments.


I think it's a pity your memory is going.No courage is needed to post an opinion about your ever repeated prejudices,as I did below a week ago.That's my view and I'm sticking with it.You are perfectly entitled to your's.

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Quote derben at 12 Jun 2015 10.41pm

It is, I would have thought, plainly racist (discriminating negatively on grounds of race)to discriminate against one's neighbours on grounds of race by choosing not to live amongst them

Edited by legaleagle (12 Jun 2015 10.36pm)

I think the statement I have highlighted in bold is one of the most priceless politically correct pieces of nonsense I have ever read - congratulations.

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I'm not surprised; you would. That's what's in my view is so sad as to be tragic.None so sad as those who are in denial.Hold your views,but be big enough to face up to what they are.But,each to their own."

Edited by legaleagle (12 Jun 2015 10.50pm)

Edited by legaleagle (19 Jun 2015 7.15pm)

 
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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Jun 15 7.15pm

Quote derben at 19 Jun 2015 6.59pm

Quote nickgusset at 19 Jun 2015 6.49pm

Quote derben at 19 Jun 2015 6.24pm

Quote legaleagle at 19 Jun 2015 6.06pm

I only tend to brand individuals worthy of the description as being "racist" or holding racist views. I quite agree the description should only be used appropriately.

I note you say racism is evil,thus you also presumably feel those who express racist views are expressing evil sentiments.

Regarding religion,I was responding to the post quoted above my post,which did concern "christian" nutters in the US.

Thanks for the veiled accusations that I am a racist - you should have the courage of your prejudices and just come right out and say it. Whether people are expressing evil sentiments depends very much on what they are actually saying. If someone says 'all black people should be killed', or 'all infidels should be killed', then certainly they are expressing evil sentiments. When John Terry called a black player who provoked him, 'a black c**t', I don't think he was expressing an evil sentiment. Politically correct puritans and thought police, who abound these days, seem to consider practically anything capable of a 'racist' interpretation. A good example is Carol Thatcher being sacked for merely saying someone's hairstyle reminded her of the logo on Robinson's jam jars. Presumably you think Carol was being an evil racist and expressing evil sentiments.

She wasn't being an evil racist. But like it or not,
Carol Thatcher was crass in her use of the word and well knew (or should know)the semantic connotations of the word in modern society.

You seriously think it justified that someone loses their job over it?

Edited by derben (19 Jun 2015 7.00pm)


Bad PR.
She overstepped the boundary of what (whether it is right or wrong) is socially acceptable language use.

 
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derben Flag 19 Jun 15 7.19pm

Quote legaleagle at 19 Jun 2015 7.13pm

Quote derben at 19 Jun 2015 6.24pm

Quote legaleagle at 19 Jun 2015 6.06pm

I only tend to brand individuals worthy of the description as being "racist" or holding racist views. I quite agree the description should only be used appropriately.

I note you say racism is evil,thus you also presumably feel those who express racist views are expressing evil sentiments.

Regarding religion,I was responding to the post quoted above my post,which did concern "christian" nutters in the US.

Thanks for the veiled accusations that I am a racist - you should have the courage of your prejudices and just come right out and say it. Whether people are expressing evil sentiments depends very much on what they are actually saying. If someone says 'all black people should be killed', or 'all infidels should be killed', then certainly they are expressing evil sentiments. When John Terry called a black player who provoked him, 'a black c**t', I don't think he was expressing an evil sentiment. Politically correct puritans and thought police, who abound these days, seem to consider practically anything capable of a 'racist' interpretation. A good example is Carol Thatcher being sacked for merely saying someone's hairstyle reminded her of the logo on Robinson's jam jars. Presumably you think Carol was being an evil racist and expressing evil sentiments.


I think it's a pity your memory is going.No courage is needed to post an opinion about your ever repeated prejudices,as I did below a week ago.That's my view and I'm sticking with it.You are perfectly entitled to your's.

"

Quote derben at 12 Jun 2015 10.41pm

It is, I would have thought, plainly racist (discriminating negatively on grounds of race)to discriminate against one's neighbours on grounds of race by choosing not to live amongst them

Edited by legaleagle (12 Jun 2015 10.36pm)

I think the statement I have highlighted in bold is one of the most priceless politically correct pieces of nonsense I have ever read - congratulations.

..................................................

I'm not surprised; you would. That's what's in my view is so sad as to be tragic.None so sad as those who are in denial.Hold your views,but be big enough to face up to what they are.But,each to their own."

Edited by legaleagle (12 Jun 2015 10.50pm)

Edited by legaleagle (19 Jun 2015 7.15pm)

I see, if someone chooses to move house, they are a racist! You are like John Cleese in the 'Life of Brian' blasphemy scene when they are stoning someone to death for saying the 'J' word.

Of course by your remarkable 'logic', by being married to a white person I am "plainly racist (discriminating negatively on grounds of race) to discriminate against prospective spouses on grounds of race by choosing not to marry them" !

Edited by derben (19 Jun 2015 7.33pm)

 
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derben Flag 19 Jun 15 7.23pm

Quote nickgusset at 19 Jun 2015 7.15pm

Quote derben at 19 Jun 2015 6.59pm

Quote nickgusset at 19 Jun 2015 6.49pm

Quote derben at 19 Jun 2015 6.24pm

Quote legaleagle at 19 Jun 2015 6.06pm

I only tend to brand individuals worthy of the description as being "racist" or holding racist views. I quite agree the description should only be used appropriately.

I note you say racism is evil,thus you also presumably feel those who express racist views are expressing evil sentiments.

Regarding religion,I was responding to the post quoted above my post,which did concern "christian" nutters in the US.

Thanks for the veiled accusations that I am a racist - you should have the courage of your prejudices and just come right out and say it. Whether people are expressing evil sentiments depends very much on what they are actually saying. If someone says 'all black people should be killed', or 'all infidels should be killed', then certainly they are expressing evil sentiments. When John Terry called a black player who provoked him, 'a black c**t', I don't think he was expressing an evil sentiment. Politically correct puritans and thought police, who abound these days, seem to consider practically anything capable of a 'racist' interpretation. A good example is Carol Thatcher being sacked for merely saying someone's hairstyle reminded her of the logo on Robinson's jam jars. Presumably you think Carol was being an evil racist and expressing evil sentiments.

She wasn't being an evil racist. But like it or not,
Carol Thatcher was crass in her use of the word and well knew (or should know)the semantic connotations of the word in modern society.

You seriously think it justified that someone loses their job over it?

Edited by derben (19 Jun 2015 7.00pm)


Bad PR.
She overstepped the boundary of what (whether it is right or wrong) is socially acceptable language use.

So she deserved to be sacked?

Perhaps she should have gone of to support ISIS instead. Then, like the three schoolgirls who went to Syria earlier this year to assist ISIS in beheading and burning people to death, she would be welcomed back and told nobody’s going to be angry with you, as it is socially acceptable to go on these jaunts in 'modern society'.

 
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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Jun 15 7.29pm

Quote derben at 19 Jun 2015 7.23pm

Quote nickgusset at 19 Jun 2015 7.15pm

Quote derben at 19 Jun 2015 6.59pm

Quote nickgusset at 19 Jun 2015 6.49pm

Quote derben at 19 Jun 2015 6.24pm

Quote legaleagle at 19 Jun 2015 6.06pm

I only tend to brand individuals worthy of the description as being "racist" or holding racist views. I quite agree the description should only be used appropriately.

I note you say racism is evil,thus you also presumably feel those who express racist views are expressing evil sentiments.

Regarding religion,I was responding to the post quoted above my post,which did concern "christian" nutters in the US.

Thanks for the veiled accusations that I am a racist - you should have the courage of your prejudices and just come right out and say it. Whether people are expressing evil sentiments depends very much on what they are actually saying. If someone says 'all black people should be killed', or 'all infidels should be killed', then certainly they are expressing evil sentiments. When John Terry called a black player who provoked him, 'a black c**t', I don't think he was expressing an evil sentiment. Politically correct puritans and thought police, who abound these days, seem to consider practically anything capable of a 'racist' interpretation. A good example is Carol Thatcher being sacked for merely saying someone's hairstyle reminded her of the logo on Robinson's jam jars. Presumably you think Carol was being an evil racist and expressing evil sentiments.

She wasn't being an evil racist. But like it or not,
Carol Thatcher was crass in her use of the word and well knew (or should know)the semantic connotations of the word in modern society.

You seriously think it justified that someone loses their job over it?

Edited by derben (19 Jun 2015 7.00pm)


Bad PR.
She overstepped the boundary of what (whether it is right or wrong) is socially acceptable language use.

So she deserved to be sacked?

Perhaps she should have gone of to support ISIS instead. Then, like the three schoolgirls who went to Syria earlier this year to assist ISIS in beheading and burning people to death, she would be welcomed back and told nobody’s going to be angry with you, as it is socially acceptable to go on these jaunts in 'modern society'.

Dunno whether she deserved to be sacked. To be fair, I don't even know what job she had. But as I said, she stepped outside the bounds of social acceptable language in a public place.

 
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