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Quote derben at 15 Jun 2015 2.39pm
Imam Farooq Yunus, of the Zakaria Mosque in Savile Town, where the boys attended religious school, said they had been let down by the system. He said: “I think we have failed. Not just the people in here – the whole system - the council, the police, the community. The society have failed these two children and somehow we should put things in place where if they do feel strongly, they know what to do. “The fault lies in the wider community where we are not engaging with them.” This is what is called 'the narrative' these days. These young men attended a religious school, ie: Islamic school where they no doubt received guidance in how to live the life of a peace loving, tolerant and progressive Muslim. Yet it is apparently the fault of the council, the police and 'the wider community (ie: non-Muslims) that they became homicidal maniacs. Of course, when people such as the teachers, police and 'the wider community' try to stop Islamic indoctrination they are branded as Anti-Islam racists. Meanwhile the wonderful concept of multi-culturalism carries on regardless, ensuring that the UK is split into a plethora of separate 'communities' which are largely closed to each other and which each have different and conflicting views of how we should live. These two terrorists came from a community which is devoted to an ideology which demands that all who are born into it cannot abandon it and must obey it and propagate it wherever they go, against this, the 'wider community' is an irrelevance. Edited by derben (15 Jun 2015 2.44pm) These are such easy statements to make aren't they? The question to throw back at this obvious imbecile are quite simply 'HOW have the council, police, community and society 'failed' them ? ...or are you just a f~*cking apologist'
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Quote derben at 15 Jun 2015 2.39pm
Imam Farooq Yunus, of the Zakaria Mosque in Savile Town, where the boys attended religious school, said they had been let down by the system. He said: “I think we have failed. Not just the people in here – the whole system - the council, the police, the community. The society have failed these two children and somehow we should put things in place where if they do feel strongly, they know what to do. “The fault lies in the wider community where we are not engaging with them.” Meanwhile the wonderful concept of multi-culturalism carries on regardless, ensuring that the UK is split into a plethora of separate 'communities' which are largely closed to each other and which each have different and conflicting views of how we should live. These two terrorists came from a community which is devoted to an ideology which demands that all who are born into it cannot abandon it and must obey it and propagate it wherever they go, against this, the 'wider community' is an irrelevance. Edited by derben (15 Jun 2015 2.44pm) These are such easy statements to make aren't they? The question to throw back at this obvious imbecile are quite simply 'HOW have the council, police, community and society 'failed' them ? ...or are you just a f~*cking apologist' Firstly, what are the council supposed to do? Secondly, the police would be accused of institutional racism if they got involved. Thirdly, how are the 'wider community' supposed to help when the immediate community do not integrate? Perhaps the mosque should take a closer look at themselves rather than blame every other c*nt for their students deciding to travel thousands of miles to grow a beard & blow up a building.
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One less ISIS traitor to worry about. No sympathy from me. We should grow some backbone, give ISIS their wish and wipe them out, just like the dinosaurs. Edited by Alexi_the_Eagle (14 Jun 2015 9.11pm)
Understandable, but how long must we stand idly by and watch ISIS desecrate innocent lives with their oppressive regime? Our government has every opportunity to wipe them out, yet they do nothing. Some country we're turning out to be when ISIS is spreading like a cancer that needs to be cut from the world's heart before it's too late. And how exactly will we wipe out an idea. IS has replaced Al-Qaeda as the primary attractor of Islamic extremists? Its not a conflict that easily won, when you don't know who the enemy actually is, where they are and cannot be intimidated by you.
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| The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 15 Jun 15 3.36pm |
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Quote derben at 15 Jun 2015 2.39pm
Imam Farooq Yunus, of the Zakaria Mosque in Savile Town, where the boys attended religious school, said they had been let down by the system. He said: “I think we have failed. Not just the people in here – the whole system - the council, the police, the community. The society have failed these two children and somehow we should put things in place where if they do feel strongly, they know what to do. “The fault lies in the wider community where we are not engaging with them.” Meanwhile the wonderful concept of multi-culturalism carries on regardless, ensuring that the UK is split into a plethora of separate 'communities' which are largely closed to each other and which each have different and conflicting views of how we should live. These two terrorists came from a community which is devoted to an ideology which demands that all who are born into it cannot abandon it and must obey it and propagate it wherever they go, against this, the 'wider community' is an irrelevance. Edited by derben (15 Jun 2015 2.44pm) These are such easy statements to make aren't they? The question to throw back at this obvious imbecile are quite simply 'HOW have the council, police, community and society 'failed' them ? ...or are you just a f~*cking apologist' Firstly, what are the council supposed to do? Secondly, the police would be accused of institutional racism if they got involved. Thirdly, how are the 'wider community' supposed to help when the immediate community do not integrate? Perhaps the mosque should take a closer look at themselves rather than blame every other c*nt for their students deciding to travel thousands of miles to grow a beard & blow up a building.
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| The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 15 Jun 15 3.41pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 15 Jun 2015 3.32pm
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Quote Alexi_the_Eagle at 14 Jun 2015 9.11pm
One less ISIS traitor to worry about. No sympathy from me. We should grow some backbone, give ISIS their wish and wipe them out, just like the dinosaurs. Edited by Alexi_the_Eagle (14 Jun 2015 9.11pm)
Understandable, but how long must we stand idly by and watch ISIS desecrate innocent lives with their oppressive regime? Our government has every opportunity to wipe them out, yet they do nothing. Some country we're turning out to be when ISIS is spreading like a cancer that needs to be cut from the world's heart before it's too late. And how exactly will we wipe out an idea. IS has replaced Al-Qaeda as the primary attractor of Islamic extremists? Its not a conflict that easily won, when you don't know who the enemy actually is, where they are and cannot be intimidated by you. True nuff... The problem is they are not any easily identifiable target - life was so much easier when the enemy wore snazzy Hugo Boss designed uniforms with skulls and swastikas on them.. We do know 'where' they are 'kinda'...but unless we are prepared to carpet bomb huge swathes of innocents alongside them in pursuit of these dark age murdering sexually repressed rapists and lowlives then you haven't got much chance...
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| Stuk Top half 15 Jun 15 4.13pm |
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I wish our media just ignored it/them pretty much. Paerhaps a tiny little box, on page 20 odd, with a heading along the lines of "dickhead from Bradford blows himself up". They don't of course and then always list each case of a "British" jihadi in history, along with all the other guff people have mentioned about them being nice and people giving a s***. f*** 'em.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Jun 15 4.19pm |
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Quote The Sash at 15 Jun 2015 3.41pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 15 Jun 2015 3.32pm
Quote Alexi_the_Eagle at 14 Jun 2015 9.52pm
Quote reborn at 14 Jun 2015 9.39pm
Quote Alexi_the_Eagle at 14 Jun 2015 9.11pm
One less ISIS traitor to worry about. No sympathy from me. We should grow some backbone, give ISIS their wish and wipe them out, just like the dinosaurs. Edited by Alexi_the_Eagle (14 Jun 2015 9.11pm)
Understandable, but how long must we stand idly by and watch ISIS desecrate innocent lives with their oppressive regime? Our government has every opportunity to wipe them out, yet they do nothing. Some country we're turning out to be when ISIS is spreading like a cancer that needs to be cut from the world's heart before it's too late. And how exactly will we wipe out an idea. IS has replaced Al-Qaeda as the primary attractor of Islamic extremists? Its not a conflict that easily won, when you don't know who the enemy actually is, where they are and cannot be intimidated by you. True nuff... The problem is they are not any easily identifiable target - life was so much easier when the enemy wore snazzy Hugo Boss designed uniforms with skulls and swastikas on them.. We do know 'where' they are 'kinda'...but unless we are prepared to carpet bomb huge swathes of innocents alongside them in pursuit of these dark age murdering sexually repressed rapists and lowlives then you haven't got much chance... And if we did, we'd end up alienating even more people and driving them into the arms of IS.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Jun 15 4.20pm |
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Quote Stuk at 15 Jun 2015 4.13pm
I wish our media just ignored it/them pretty much. Paerhaps a tiny little box, on page 20 odd, with a heading along the lines of "dickhead from Bradford blows himself up". They don't of course and then always list each case of a "British" jihadi in history, along with all the other guff people have mentioned about them being nice and people giving a s***. f*** 'em. Or just describe it as a man from x was killed in an explosion in Syria / Iraq. Terrorism is fuelled by fervent media publicity, even if its The Sun condemning them on every level.
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Quote derben at 15 Jun 2015 2.39pm
Imam Farooq Yunus, of the Zakaria Mosque in Savile Town, where the boys attended religious school, said they had been let down by the system. He said: “I think we have failed. Not just the people in here – the whole system - the council, the police, the community. The society have failed these two children and somehow we should put things in place where if they do feel strongly, they know what to do. “The fault lies in the wider community where we are not engaging with them.” Meanwhile the wonderful concept of multi-culturalism carries on regardless, ensuring that the UK is split into a plethora of separate 'communities' which are largely closed to each other and which each have different and conflicting views of how we should live. These two terrorists came from a community which is devoted to an ideology which demands that all who are born into it cannot abandon it and must obey it and propagate it wherever they go, against this, the 'wider community' is an irrelevance. Edited by derben (15 Jun 2015 2.44pm) These are such easy statements to make aren't they? The question to throw back at this obvious imbecile are quite simply 'HOW have the council, police, community and society 'failed' them ? ...or are you just a f~*cking apologist' Firstly, what are the council supposed to do? Secondly, the police would be accused of institutional racism if they got involved. Thirdly, how are the 'wider community' supposed to help when the immediate community do not integrate? Perhaps the mosque should take a closer look at themselves rather than blame every other c*nt for their students deciding to travel thousands of miles to grow a beard & blow up a building. Integration is a two way process, I know quite a few Muslims through work and interaction locally. I'm pretty sure groups like the EDL don't help either (Its easy to condemn Muslim communities for isolating themselves, but then when the EDL are protesting in those areas, it probably doesn't feel like your too wanted either. There are plenty of anti-Islamic demogogues out there in the media who's actions are anti-integration.
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| Southampton_Eagle At the after party 15 Jun 15 4.29pm |
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Quote The Sash at 15 Jun 2015 3.36pm
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Quote The Sash at 15 Jun 2015 2.47pm
Quote derben at 15 Jun 2015 2.39pm
Imam Farooq Yunus, of the Zakaria Mosque in Savile Town, where the boys attended religious school, said they had been let down by the system. He said: “I think we have failed. Not just the people in here – the whole system - the council, the police, the community. The society have failed these two children and somehow we should put things in place where if they do feel strongly, they know what to do. “The fault lies in the wider community where we are not engaging with them.” Meanwhile the wonderful concept of multi-culturalism carries on regardless, ensuring that the UK is split into a plethora of separate 'communities' which are largely closed to each other and which each have different and conflicting views of how we should live. These two terrorists came from a community which is devoted to an ideology which demands that all who are born into it cannot abandon it and must obey it and propagate it wherever they go, against this, the 'wider community' is an irrelevance. Edited by derben (15 Jun 2015 2.44pm) These are such easy statements to make aren't they? The question to throw back at this obvious imbecile are quite simply 'HOW have the council, police, community and society 'failed' them ? ...or are you just a f~*cking apologist' Firstly, what are the council supposed to do? Secondly, the police would be accused of institutional racism if they got involved. Thirdly, how are the 'wider community' supposed to help when the immediate community do not integrate? Perhaps the mosque should take a closer look at themselves rather than blame every other c*nt for their students deciding to travel thousands of miles to grow a beard & blow up a building.
Very patchy. The seventy two virgins will not be impressed with the wispy chin pubes.
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Quote Southampton_Eagle at 15 Jun 2015 4.29pm
Quote The Sash at 15 Jun 2015 3.36pm
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Quote derben at 15 Jun 2015 2.39pm
Imam Farooq Yunus, of the Zakaria Mosque in Savile Town, where the boys attended religious school, said they had been let down by the system. He said: “I think we have failed. Not just the people in here – the whole system - the council, the police, the community. The society have failed these two children and somehow we should put things in place where if they do feel strongly, they know what to do. “The fault lies in the wider community where we are not engaging with them.” Meanwhile the wonderful concept of multi-culturalism carries on regardless, ensuring that the UK is split into a plethora of separate 'communities' which are largely closed to each other and which each have different and conflicting views of how we should live. These two terrorists came from a community which is devoted to an ideology which demands that all who are born into it cannot abandon it and must obey it and propagate it wherever they go, against this, the 'wider community' is an irrelevance. Edited by derben (15 Jun 2015 2.44pm) These are such easy statements to make aren't they? The question to throw back at this obvious imbecile are quite simply 'HOW have the council, police, community and society 'failed' them ? ...or are you just a f~*cking apologist' Firstly, what are the council supposed to do? Secondly, the police would be accused of institutional racism if they got involved. Thirdly, how are the 'wider community' supposed to help when the immediate community do not integrate? Perhaps the mosque should take a closer look at themselves rather than blame every other c*nt for their students deciding to travel thousands of miles to grow a beard & blow up a building.
Very patchy. The seventy two virgins will not be impressed with the wispy chin pubes. Those blokes have been waiting all eternity to pop their cherry, they won't worry about whispy chin pubes
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| Stuk Top half 15 Jun 15 4.46pm |
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Quote Stuk at 15 Jun 2015 4.13pm
I wish our media just ignored it/them pretty much. Paerhaps a tiny little box, on page 20 odd, with a heading along the lines of "dickhead from Bradford blows himself up". They don't of course and then always list each case of a "British" jihadi in history, along with all the other guff people have mentioned about them being nice and people giving a s***. f*** 'em. Or just describe it as a man from x was killed in an explosion in Syria / Iraq. Terrorism is fuelled by fervent media publicity, even if its The Sun condemning them on every level. Exactly. We don't need to know what their name was, their age or where they went to school and I couldn't care less what anyone who knew him thinks of the incident or hwo it's affected "the community". We certainly don't need to print the very photographs that they want us to either. Should find the most, embarrassing, feeble photo ever taken of them and use that. Dressed up a girl for the school play, or a really dodgy outfit on them as a child.
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