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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 27 Apr 15 4.17pm

Quote matt_himself at 27 Apr 2015 2.41pm

This is key to a lot of what I say.

Who decides what is offensive?

Most of the stuff decided on here comes from people who live in the back of beyond, those in professions with motives or those who think they know what is best but have hidden themselves away from the real world.

The person who claims offence. In terms of law, they then have to show reasonable grounds that it was offensive and towards intent.

Typically attempts by state to label offensive have been hilarious failures.


Edited by jamiemartin721 (27 Apr 2015 4.22pm)

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 27 Apr 15 4.20pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 3.03pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 12.54pm

Quote PalazioVecchio at 27 Apr 2015 12.30pm

don't you love 'positive discrimination' ie. a white bloke doesn't get a job he is well qualified for cos he is a white bloke.

and you end up sacking Alan Pardew and hiring Harriet Harman to run your football team.

Doesn't work quite like that, its if there is an choice between two equally qualified candidates, then the default position of Positive Action is that the other person gets it.

Is the wrong answer and is actually 'positive discrimination' and contrary to existing law in this country. Positive Action is lawful but can only be applied BEFORE the selection process takes place e.g offering extra tuition to recognised underepresented (as defined by the existing legislation) groups or actually encouraging said groups to apply for a position. However, at the point of selection, under current legislation, everyone is considered as equal and the most suitably qualified person SHOULD get the post regardless of ethnic persuasion, gender, disability, sexual orientation etc.

Thanks for that.

Of course, they aren't - and the job typically will go to the white male, because its unconscious bias in society, as opposed to constructed along rational lines.

Everyone says they'd select 'the most qualified of all the applicants' that typically isn't the case (because the human mind doesn't work like that). Indeed some people will specifically select the racial minority, through unconscious fear of being labeled racist.


 


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imbored Flag UK 27 Apr 15 5.05pm

A stupid idea of course, since people can be victims of racism regardless of their race. Excluding white people is racist, so this is a racist anti-racism event.

 

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soulboy Flag Lewisham 27 Apr 15 5.14pm Send a Private Message to soulboy Add soulboy as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 4.20pm

Quote soulboy at 27 Apr 2015 3.03pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 27 Apr 2015 12.54pm

Quote PalazioVecchio at 27 Apr 2015 12.30pm

don't you love 'positive discrimination' ie. a white bloke doesn't get a job he is well qualified for cos he is a white bloke.

and you end up sacking Alan Pardew and hiring Harriet Harman to run your football team.

Doesn't work quite like that, its if there is an choice between two equally qualified candidates, then the default position of Positive Action is that the other person gets it.

Is the wrong answer and is actually 'positive discrimination' and contrary to existing law in this country. Positive Action is lawful but can only be applied BEFORE the selection process takes place e.g offering extra tuition to recognised underepresented (as defined by the existing legislation) groups or actually encouraging said groups to apply for a position. However, at the point of selection, under current legislation, everyone is considered as equal and the most suitably qualified person SHOULD get the post regardless of ethnic persuasion, gender, disability, sexual orientation etc.

Thanks for that.

Of course, they aren't - and the job typically will go to the white male, because its unconscious bias in society, as opposed to constructed along rational lines.

Everyone says they'd select 'the most qualified of all the applicants' that typically isn't the case (because the human mind doesn't work like that). Indeed some people will specifically select the racial minority, through unconscious fear of being labeled racist.


Having been a manager/director in the Public Sector for 30+ years would have to agree with your summation, however positive action although laudable in trying to remedy the manifestation of past discrimination remains a hotly debated and contentious area of management. Damned if you do and obviously a racist if you don't.


 


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The same union refused to hold a Holocaust memorial event with someone bringing up Palestine at the meeting. They've also promoted a boycott of Israeli goods.

They love a protest and in fact there's daft home-made banner outside right now.

I can only attribute this to having to attend university in New Cross and probably just commuting from a nice home rather than being in a uni town with more focus on sensible passtimes like getting pissed all the time and the occasional bit of work.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 28 Apr 15 11.31am

Quote johnfirewall at 27 Apr 2015 8.37pm

The same union refused to hold a Holocaust memorial event with someone bringing up Palestine at the meeting. They've also promoted a boycott of Israeli goods.

They love a protest and in fact there's daft home-made banner outside right now.

I can only attribute this to having to attend university in New Cross and probably just commuting from a nice home rather than being in a uni town with more focus on sensible passtimes like getting pissed all the time and the occasional bit of work.

Phd in hooliganism and sister raping


 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Apr 2015 11.31am

Quote johnfirewall at 27 Apr 2015 8.37pm

The same union refused to hold a Holocaust memorial event with someone bringing up Palestine at the meeting. They've also promoted a boycott of Israeli goods.

They love a protest and in fact there's daft home-made banner outside right now.

I can only attribute this to having to attend university in New Cross and probably just commuting from a nice home rather than being in a uni town with more focus on sensible passtimes like getting pissed all the time and the occasional bit of work.

Phd in hooliganism and sister raping



'Universities' in my day they were called Polytechnics

 


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Goldsmiths welfare and diversity officer, Bahar Mustafa, hits out at racism accusations, stating ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist

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Quote johnfirewall at 11 May 2015 11.07pm

Goldsmiths welfare and diversity officer, Bahar Mustafa, hits out at racism accusations, stating ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist

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Bahar Mustafa, as she has already demonstrated in spades is an utter imbecile.

Simply reading....

She said: "This isn't about me and despite desperate attempts to humiliate and denigrate a 27 year-old woman of colour from a working class family, this isn't about my struggle.

....demonstrates brilliantly that she sees herself as some kind of victim and wears her race, gender and class on her sleeve like a Scouts Housekeeping badge and that anything and everything negative that effects her daily life is to blame on one or all of them.

She's simply a polytechnic revolutionary c*nt

I still would though


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She has all the personality attributes to be a successful politician a la George Galloway, Nigel Farage, Ed Balls, etc.

 


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Quote johnfirewall at 11 May 2015 11.07pm

Goldsmiths welfare and diversity officer, Bahar Mustafa, hits out at racism accusations, stating ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist

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Clearly no one ever explained that to Dianne Abbott.

 


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The Sash Flag Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 12 May 15 12.00pm Send a Private Message to The Sash Add The Sash as a friend

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Quote johnfirewall at 11 May 2015 11.07pm

Goldsmiths welfare and diversity officer, Bahar Mustafa, hits out at racism accusations, stating ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist

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Clearly no one ever explained that to Dianne Abbott.


Funny enough I worked years ago with a black woman who was the mist racist, vile piece of cock dribble you could ever wish to meet...claiming to be 'Jamaican; even though the nearest she had ever got to Kingston was a bus to Hampton Wick her ire wasn't just directed at anyone who wasn't black but anyone who wasn't from Jamaica, in fact she seemed to have a special spitting venom for people from Barbados.

We had a young guy who's parents were from Jamaica who was going out with a girl who's parents were from Barbados and she gave him merry hell.

Firm was too scared to sack her

She ended up putting in a grievance of 47 separate instances of alleged racism, sexism etc against the firm of which it took the the tribunal 5 minutes thr tell her to f*** off - she thenleft

 


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