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Stirlingsays 14 Jan 21 6.31pm
Originally posted by BlueJay It appears they've even commented on it Pirate Bay Founder Thinks Parler’s Inability to Stay Online Is ‘Embarrassing’ - [Link] "The pirate bay, the most censored website in the world, started by kids, run by people with problems with alcohol, drugs and money, still is up after almost 2 decades. Parlor and gab etc have all the money around but no skills or mindset. Embarrassing. The most ironic thing is that TPBs enemies include not just the US government but also many European and the Russian one. Compared to gab/parlor which is supported by the current president of the US and probably liked by the Russian one too. In all honesty, the reason we did TPB was to bring freedom and take back control from a centralised system. The reason that Gab et al will fail is because they're just whining b!tches that have only one ideology: egotism. Sharing is caring y'all." Didn't the founders of Pirate Bay get sent to prison? But as long as the site stayed up eh.....even though it wasn't a social media site but a peer to peer file network....and even though the site was actually taken down so many times I lost count. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2021 6.32pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Jan 21 6.31pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

It appears they've even commented on it

Pirate Bay Founder Thinks Parler’s Inability to Stay Online Is ‘Embarrassing’ - [Link]

"The pirate bay, the most censored website in the world, started by kids, run by people with problems with alcohol, drugs and money, still is up after almost 2 decades. Parlor and gab etc have all the money around but no skills or mindset. Embarrassing.

The most ironic thing is that TPBs enemies include not just the US government but also many European and the Russian one. Compared to gab/parlor which is supported by the current president of the US and probably liked by the Russian one too.

In all honesty, the reason we did TPB was to bring freedom and take back control from a centralised system. The reason that Gab et al will fail is because they're just whining b!tches that have only one ideology: egotism. Sharing is caring y'all."

Didn't the founders of Pirate Bay get sent to prison?

But as long as the site stayed up eh.....even though it wasn't a social media site but a peer to peer file network....and even though the site was actually taken down so many times I lost count.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2021 6.32pm)

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Matov 14 Jan 21 6.37pm
Really don't see the point in wasting energy debating free-speech/expression with the Left. They abandoned the principle a long time ago simply because it is incompatible with identity politics. If you are going to effectively define yourselves through how you identity with 'victimised' minorities then it follows that you will then seek to protect them from any kind of criticism. You want a prediction for the next 4-5 years? An effective blasphemy law to protect Islam. It won't be called 'blasphemy' because then it might have to take into account other religious beliefs but essentially the Left have to seek to make criticism of Islam off-limits because otherwise the glaring contradictions between what the Left claim to believe and the basic tenets of Islam becomes an issue. So you effectively look to stifle any debate around it. Hence why they equate racism with Islamphobia. Critique Islam and that makes you racist by default and therefore beyond the realms of reasoned discussion. Hence why they jump for joy when Trump is removed from things like Twitter. They WANT less room for debate. Simply not interested in the slightest in hearing other opinions. Such is life. Edited by Matov (14 Jan 2021 6.42pm) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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14 Jan 21 6.37pm

Really don't see the point in wasting energy debating free-speech/expression with the Left. They abandoned the principle a long time ago simply because it is incompatible with identity politics. If you are going to effectively define yourselves through how you identity with 'victimised' minorities then it follows that you will then seek to protect them from any kind of criticism.

You want a prediction for the next 4-5 years? An effective blasphemy law to protect Islam. It won't be called 'blasphemy' because then it might have to take into account other religious beliefs but essentially the Left have to seek to make criticism of Islam off-limits because otherwise the glaring contradictions between what the Left claim to believe and the basic tenets of Islam becomes an issue.

So you effectively look to stifle any debate around it. Hence why they equate racism with Islamphobia. Critique Islam and that makes you racist by default and therefore beyond the realms of reasoned discussion.

Hence why they jump for joy when Trump is removed from things like Twitter. They WANT less room for debate. Simply not interested in the slightest in hearing other opinions.

Such is life.

Edited by Matov (14 Jan 2021 6.42pm)

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 14 Jan 21 7.00pm
Originally posted by Matov Really don't see the point in wasting energy debating free-speech/expression with the Left. They abandoned the principle a long time ago simply because it is incompatible with identity politics. If you are going to effectively define yourselves through how you identity with 'victimised' minorities then it follows that you will then seek to protect them from any kind of criticism. You want a prediction for the next 4-5 years? An effective blasphemy law to protect Islam. It won't be called 'blasphemy' because then it might have to take into account other religious beliefs but essentially the Left have to seek to make criticism of Islam off-limits because otherwise the glaring contradictions between what the Left claim to believe and the basic tenets of Islam becomes an issue. So you effectively look to stifle any debate around it. Hence why they equate racism with Islamphobia. Critique Islam and that makes you racist by default and therefore beyond the realms of reasoned discussion. Hence why they jump for joy when Trump is removed from things like Twitter. They WANT less room for debate. Simply not interested in the slightest in hearing other opinions. Such is life. Edited by Matov (14 Jan 2021 6.42pm) I thought over here "free speech" was ended years ago by the CONservatives and the right by not allowing more than 6 people on a picket line- for perhaps unfair pay, unfair dismissal or unsafe working practices! Seems to the right, "free speech" is only important if it"s something they like to listen to,( these are cp"s words, spoken by an actor)
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 14 Jan 21 7.00pm

Originally posted by Matov

Hence why they jump for joy when Trump is removed from things like Twitter. They WANT less room for debate. Simply not interested in the slightest in hearing other opinions.

Such is life.

Edited by Matov (14 Jan 2021 6.42pm)

I thought over here "free speech" was ended years ago by the CONservatives and the right by not allowing more than 6 people on a picket line- for perhaps unfair pay, unfair dismissal or unsafe working practices! Seems to the right, "free speech" is only important if it"s something they like to listen to,( these are cp"s words, spoken by an actor)

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Stirlingsays 14 Jan 21 7.00pm
Originally posted by Matov Really don't see the point in wasting energy debating free-speech/expression with the Left. They abandoned the principle a long time ago simply because it is incompatible with identity politics. If you are going to effectively define yourselves through how you identity with 'victimised' minorities then it follows that you will then seek to protect them from any kind of criticism. You want a prediction for the next 4-5 years? An effective blasphemy law to protect Islam. It won't be called 'blasphemy' because then it might have to take into account other religious beliefs but essentially the Left have to seek to make criticism of Islam off-limits because otherwise the glaring contradictions between what the Left claim to believe and the basic tenets of Islam becomes an issue. So you effectively look to stifle any debate around it. Hence why they equate racism with Islamphobia. Critique Islam and that makes you racist by default and therefore beyond the realms of reasoned discussion. Hence why they jump for joy when Trump is removed from things like Twitter. They WANT less room for debate. Simply not interested in the slightest in hearing other opinions. Such is life. Edited by Matov (14 Jan 2021 6.42pm) As a general description of the left it's true of course. It isn't the left I grew up with for sure. But just as the right differ so do the left and you can have some good conservations with individuals. But I suppose on a real level most Internet discussions are just a form of intellectual engagement with typing practice...while you might find out the occasional nugget it's mostly hot air. With the lockdown there's just more time to waffle I suppose. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2021 7.01pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Jan 21 7.00pm

Originally posted by Matov

Hence why they jump for joy when Trump is removed from things like Twitter. They WANT less room for debate. Simply not interested in the slightest in hearing other opinions.

Such is life.

Edited by Matov (14 Jan 2021 6.42pm)

As a general description of the left it's true of course. It isn't the left I grew up with for sure.

But just as the right differ so do the left and you can have some good conservations with individuals.

But I suppose on a real level most Internet discussions are just a form of intellectual engagement with typing practice...while you might find out the occasional nugget it's mostly hot air.

With the lockdown there's just more time to waffle I suppose.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2021 7.01pm)

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BlueJay UK 14 Jan 21 7.11pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Didn't the founders of Pirate Bay get sent to prison? But as long as the site stayed up eh.....even though it wasn't a social media site but a peer to peer file network....and even though the site was actually taken down so many times I lost count. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2021 6.32pm) What people make good points, you just latch onto something else they haven't even commented on. I was addressing making a platform so robust that despite efforts to take it offline, it remains online. That is what PirateBay represents. Yes, it's been taken offline at times, but decades on, for anyone with basic technical competency it is still available to visit. As I said, I'm not even for what happened to Parler, nor do I have any desire to silence anyones ability to publicly post as long as they have a basic appreciation for the law, so you're picking an argument with the wrong person. Edited by BlueJay (14 Jan 2021 7.13pm)
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UK 14 Jan 21 7.11pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Didn't the founders of Pirate Bay get sent to prison?

But as long as the site stayed up eh.....even though it wasn't a social media site but a peer to peer file network....and even though the site was actually taken down so many times I lost count.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2021 6.32pm)

What people make good points, you just latch onto something else they haven't even commented on.

I was addressing making a platform so robust that despite efforts to take it offline, it remains online. That is what PirateBay represents. Yes, it's been taken offline at times, but decades on, for anyone with basic technical competency it is still available to visit.

As I said, I'm not even for what happened to Parler, nor do I have any desire to silence anyones ability to publicly post as long as they have a basic appreciation for the law, so you're picking an argument with the wrong person.

Edited by BlueJay (14 Jan 2021 7.13pm)

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BlueJay UK 14 Jan 21 7.34pm
In any case I wasn't really looking to get drawn in. I was making a couple of specific points pertinent to these discussions and happenings, and had covered other aspects previously. I'll leave others to it as I appear to have stumbled into bad mood city . I'll pop back on the 20th!
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UK 14 Jan 21 7.34pm

In any case I wasn't really looking to get drawn in. I was making a couple of specific points pertinent to these discussions and happenings, and had covered other aspects previously. I'll leave others to it as I appear to have stumbled into bad mood city .

I'll pop back on the 20th!

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 14 Jan 21 7.52pm
Originally posted by BlueJay In any case I wasn't really looking to get drawn in. I was making a couple of specific points pertinent to these discussions and happenings, and had covered other aspects previously. I'll leave others to it as I appear to have stumbled into bad mood city . I'll pop back on the 20th! Stay where you are blu, you are doing well and I for one like reading your comments!
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 14 Jan 21 7.52pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

I'll pop back on the 20th!

Stay where you are blu, you are doing well and I for one like reading your comments!

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Jan 21 8.54pm
Originally posted by BlueJay In any case I wasn't really looking to get drawn in. I was making a couple of specific points pertinent to these discussions and happenings, and had covered other aspects previously. I'll leave others to it as I appear to have stumbled into bad mood city . I'll pop back on the 20th! Havent you get a partner who has bad moods, I have, Normally when I speak to her
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cryrst

The garden of England 14 Jan 21 8.54pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

I'll pop back on the 20th!

Havent you get a partner who has bad moods, I have,
Normally when I speak to her

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BlueJay UK 14 Jan 21 9.19pm
Originally posted by cryrst Havent you get a partner who has bad moods, I have, Normally when I speak to her It's more the mother-in-law I worry about
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UK 14 Jan 21 9.19pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Havent you get a partner who has bad moods, I have,
Normally when I speak to her

It's more the mother-in-law I worry about

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Jan 21 9.59pm
Originally posted by BlueJay It's more the mother-in-law I worry about You sort that by being nice. Does their head in.
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The garden of England 14 Jan 21 9.59pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

It's more the mother-in-law I worry about

You sort that by being nice. Does their head in.

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Matov 14 Jan 21 10.06pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays But just as the right differ so do the left and you can have some good conservations with individuals. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2021 7.01pm) You can up until a point. But when they are back into a Soviet of Lefties, then they revert to type because they simply cannot be seen to diverge from what is considered the collective wisdom. Within the Left, there is almost zero allowance of any kind of significant divergence from what is the ideological norm of the day unlike say the Right where we are a far broader church. Hence why so many of them become considered outcasts over this Trans lunacy. Almost to a single person, when discussing it on a one to one basis, they will tend to agree how insane it all is but once back into the public spotlight, fall back into line because otherwise, it is a complete rejection from the rest of the tribe given the example set of so many others. I rather admire them in some way when it comes to how Poe-faced they have to remain when trying to convince us that Eddie Izard, despite all evidence to the contrary, is actually a woman and they considered him/she/it to be as much of a female as their own wives, sisters or daughters. That takes a real acting talent. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

14 Jan 21 10.06pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

But just as the right differ so do the left and you can have some good conservations with individuals.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2021 7.01pm)

You can up until a point. But when they are back into a Soviet of Lefties, then they revert to type because they simply cannot be seen to diverge from what is considered the collective wisdom. Within the Left, there is almost zero allowance of any kind of significant divergence from what is the ideological norm of the day unlike say the Right where we are a far broader church.

Hence why so many of them become considered outcasts over this Trans lunacy. Almost to a single person, when discussing it on a one to one basis, they will tend to agree how insane it all is but once back into the public spotlight, fall back into line because otherwise, it is a complete rejection from the rest of the tribe given the example set of so many others.

I rather admire them in some way when it comes to how Poe-faced they have to remain when trying to convince us that Eddie Izard, despite all evidence to the contrary, is actually a woman and they considered him/she/it to be as much of a female as their own wives, sisters or daughters.

That takes a real acting talent.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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matthau South Croydon 15 Jan 21 12.32am
This might be the start of it. Might not have to wait til the 20th! Attachment: trim.1E44A20B-2023-4400-A08D-E553DD116CA2.MOV (11,172.32Kb)
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South Croydon 15 Jan 21 12.32am

This might be the start of it. Might not have to wait til the 20th!

Attachment: trim.1E44A20B-2023-4400-A08D-E553DD116CA2.MOV (11,172.32Kb)

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