This ignores the point I made really. That not bothering (for whatever reason) to get around to moderating many thousands of flagged posts as happened with Parler and P-r0nhub alike never leads to anywhere positive, anything but. There was an endorsement of this lax approach, and I was explaining why it's a bad idea. There are of course problems with over policing and its opposite.

As for death threats, people of all political stripes receive them. Parler was a convey belt of direct death threats. Did it matter to you then or just when it shuts down and the CEO gets them too?

Here from just yesterday is a story about one of your Proud Boys using Parler to theaten and encourage the death of a Senator [Link] Sure these things can happen on any platform, but it's routine on these alternatives for obvious reasons and the routine lack of action is an encouragement of more of the same.

Edited by BlueJay (14 Jan 2021 5.07pm)

If they have managed to bring 15k troops to DC in 4 days why couldnt they bring 5k in 2 days to ring the Capitol building. This seems more and more like a plan from the left to set trump up for impeachment. I'm beginning to fear for american people if this is the mindset of the top democrats.
Stupid voting for dangerous.

Oh for crying out loud!

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

'According to the Washington Post, relations between Trump and Giuliani have dramatically cooled. Trump has instructed his aides not to pay Giuliani’s outstanding fees. The president is reportedly offended by Giuliani’s demand for $20,000 a day – a figure the lawyer denies, but which is apparently in writing. White House officials have even been told not to put through any of Giuliani’s calls.'

Imploding – Although I never understood Trumps infatuation with Rudy. Could have done a lot better for himself.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

My point pertained to real world examples (Parler and pr0n-hub) of what happens when a blind eye is turned. The result of thousands of posts or pieces of content flagged or otherwise being unviewed by those responsible for moderating. It was said in response to a 'who cares' attitude to such a thing happened. Maybe those r-aped or abused who had the footage uploaded to the internet and fought for 'years' to get it taken down despite flagging it for example? And it doesn't take much imagination to see what the consequences were on Parler.

Discussions about moderation have multiple facets, not only those that matter to or impact you. My focus was very relevant as with the pr0n-hub example (which is not even political) as it still resulted in them taking the vast majority of their content offline aside from 'approved' uploaders, as various providers and advertisers were dropping them due to not wanting to be associated with their 'content'. Something that happens as result of these laissez faire attitudes when the reality of what that results in becomes apparent.

As for platforms getting taken offline, I have already explained how alternative platforms, if they take the right approach, can fend off any attempts to take them offline anyway, using PirateBay as a good example of technical competency. The owner of Parler was 'Sunday League' in comparison. He even had such lax security that the entire sites content was downloaded prior to it being taken down (IDs and all). Very negligent in the face of what was an obvious risk.

As long as an individuals aren't breaking them law I have no issue with what they say or do online, though the company that host them may also have their own terms of service. I would much rather people publicly post anything from ideas to threats to illegal content publicly. When it's pushed underground that doesn't really benefit anyone. When it's posted publicly it can be more easily argued against, addressed or dealt with. So I wasn't particularly against Parler or in favour of it being taken offline anyway.

Edited by BlueJay (14 Jan 2021 6.17pm)

600 grand a month is a bit steep when you get nothing to show for it I suppose.

One of Trump's issues was the disconnect between what he'd say to his supporters and the team he'd put together to bring those policies about.

Early on he ditched Bannon....who was a believer and wrote the 'American Carnage' speech and swapped him for Jared Kushner, who seemed more interested in Israel than America.....in terms of shaping his administration and matching the words to actions it was a poor choice.

Trump's picks for most positions were pretty poor most of the way through.

Still, I never really got the impression that Trump really cared all that much and 2020 Trump was a pale version of 2016 Trump.

That said he did some good work building confidence in the economy and in showing that America really was put into some very poor trade deals and wasn't holding its own.

And the military liked him as he stopped using them as the world's Policeman and instead focused upon their development.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jan 2021 6.28pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)