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 cryrst  The garden of England 02 Oct 20 2.08pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Those responsible for "state policy" cannot sign international agreements, or withdraw from them. They cannot lead the world in a fight in which the whole world needs to be united. "State policy" manages local issues, which is Trump's own response as a climate change denier. I didn't think you were. Best you read some of my posts then me old fruit cake. Temperature change is really what it is.
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Stirlingsays  02 Oct 20 2.08pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Covid-19? A hoax according to Trump, well he has been well and truly found out now, even unfortunately catching it himself. A democrat win will hopefully restore international co-operation and sanity.
I don't think that's fair. The US is held to a different standard to other nations and has more to lose. The accords are also political devices. As I've said in the past....I don't personally want to easily swap American hegemony for a Chinese one.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Oct 20 4.56pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The same could be said of any modern politician, as you well know. You attack Trump because he is an easy target. No it cannot be said of every modern politician. There are many who you would never associate with such selfishness. It's a very weak excuse anyway to suggest that just because others might it's OK for someone else to, especially when that someone is the POTUS. The POTUS ought to demonstrate the highest ethical standards so that the USA, and the free world, are held in the highest regard and not in the slime at the bottom of the barrel. Trump is on another level to anything I have ever witnessed in my lifetime and hope to never see again.
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| cryrst The garden of England 02 Oct 20 5.03pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No it cannot be said of every modern politician. There are many who you would never associate with such selfishness. It's a very weak excuse anyway to suggest that just because others might it's OK for someone else to, especially when that someone is the POTUS. The POTUS ought to demonstrate the highest ethical standards so that the USA, and the free world, are held in the highest regard and not in the slime at the bottom of the barrel. Trump is on another level to anything I have ever witnessed in my lifetime and hope to never see again. You must dig very deep is all I will say. I'm sure if he has done bad and is as bad it would be all over the press. Left and right. I just see the left spending 47 months trying to get over losing to fresher. Not one new policy to even make it worth a thought. Very strange. Oh apart from sting the wealthy to pay the poor so they can stay down and vote democrat. Very novel.
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| Stirlingsays 02 Oct 20 5.03pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No it cannot be said of every modern politician. There are many who you would never associate with such selfishness. It's a very weak excuse anyway to suggest that just because others might it's OK for someone else to, especially when that someone is the POTUS. The POTUS ought to demonstrate the highest ethical standards so that the USA, and the free world, are held in the highest regard and not in the slime at the bottom of the barrel. Trump is on another level to anything I have ever witnessed in my lifetime and hope to never see again. There is certainly an irony blind-spot there if ever there was one.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Oct 20 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Best you read some of my posts then me old fruit cake. Temperature change is really what it is. Science is always subject to revision after new evidence is found. That's true. However, there is now sufficient consensus among the world's experts, without there emerging any convincing counter-arguments, for us to be pretty sure, on the balance of probabilities, that man-made climate change is real. Certainly, enough for us to make changes to the way we live. Better to prepare for something that is expected than to ignore it in the hope it might be wrong. Man-made climate change exists outside of any natural variations, which have affected the world from time to time. I used to know one of the world's leading experts in this field, whose integrity was beyond reproach. She had no doubt whatsoever that it was real, and urgent, and this was 20 years ago. We know even more now. So I have no idea what you mean by attributing what's happening just to "temperature change". It's a meaningless term.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 02 Oct 20 5.35pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No it cannot be said of every modern politician. There are many who you would never associate with such selfishness. It's a very weak excuse anyway to suggest that just because others might it's OK for someone else to, especially when that someone is the POTUS. The POTUS ought to demonstrate the highest ethical standards so that the USA, and the free world, are held in the highest regard and not in the slime at the bottom of the barrel. Trump is on another level to anything I have ever witnessed in my lifetime and hope to never see again.
You imply Trump might be guilty of lying with no evidence whatever but he is the one with the ethics problem? You then suggest it's not OK to compare him with others for doing something there is no proof he has actually done in the first place. You live in your own world of one eyed illogic.
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| cryrst The garden of England 02 Oct 20 5.41pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Science is always subject to revision after new evidence is found. That's true. However, there is now sufficient consensus among the world's experts, without there emerging any convincing counter-arguments, for us to be pretty sure, on the balance of probabilities, that man-made climate change is real. Certainly, enough for us to make changes to the way we live. Better to prepare for something that is expected than to ignore it in the hope it might be wrong. Man-made climate change exists outside of any natural variations, which have affected the world from time to time. I used to know one of the world's leading experts in this field, whose integrity was beyond reproach. She had no doubt whatsoever that it was real, and urgent, and this was 20 years ago. We know even more now. So I have no idea what you mean by attributing what's happening just to "temperature change". It's a meaningless term. Sufficient consensus isnt proof and if climate change isnt about the earths temperature what is it about. What is the co2 level in the atmosphere?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 02 Oct 20 5.57pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Science is always subject to revision after new evidence is found. That's true. However, there is now sufficient consensus among the world's experts, without there emerging any convincing counter-arguments, for us to be pretty sure, on the balance of probabilities, that man-made climate change is real. Certainly, enough for us to make changes to the way we live. Better to prepare for something that is expected than to ignore it in the hope it might be wrong. Man-made climate change exists outside of any natural variations, which have affected the world from time to time. I used to know one of the world's leading experts in this field, whose integrity was beyond reproach. She had no doubt whatsoever that it was real, and urgent, and this was 20 years ago. We know even more now. So I have no idea what you mean by attributing what's happening just to "temperature change". It's a meaningless term. Climate change is occurring constantly, not 'from time to time'. Very few scientist will break ranks these days because it will cost them their reputation and money but the bigger picture must be recognised to put all this into perspective. We can reduce carbon emissions and all the rest but let's not kid ourselves. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (02 Oct 2020 6.07pm)
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| Spiderman Horsham 02 Oct 20 5.58pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Climate change is the worlds biggest problem, yet the president of the USA distances himself from it. Covid-19? A hoax according to Trump, well he has been well and truly found out now, even unfortunately catching it himself. A democrat win will hopefully restore international co-operation and sanity.
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| Spiderman Horsham 02 Oct 20 6.02pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No it cannot be said of every modern politician. There are many who you would never associate with such selfishness. It's a very weak excuse anyway to suggest that just because others might it's OK for someone else to, especially when that someone is the POTUS. The POTUS ought to demonstrate the highest ethical standards so that the USA, and the free world, are held in the highest regard and not in the slime at the bottom of the barrel. Trump is on another level to anything I have ever witnessed in my lifetime and hope to never see again. So how high were Bill “ I never visited Epstein’s private Island” Clinton ethical standards? Edited by Spiderman (02 Oct 2020 6.02pm)
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| Spiderman Horsham 02 Oct 20 6.07pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Science is always subject to revision after new evidence is found. That's true. However, there is now sufficient consensus among the world's experts, without there emerging any convincing counter-arguments, for us to be pretty sure, on the balance of probabilities, that man-made climate change is real. Certainly, enough for us to make changes to the way we live. Better to prepare for something that is expected than to ignore it in the hope it might be wrong. Man-made climate change exists outside of any natural variations, which have affected the world from time to time. I used to know one of the world's leading experts in this field, whose integrity was beyond reproach. She had no doubt whatsoever that it was real, and urgent, and this was 20 years ago. We know even more now. So I have no idea what you mean by attributing what's happening just to "temperature change". It's a meaningless term. Do you still eat meat and drink milk WE? Presumably you still fly to the Philippines to visit family. All do not help climate change, so what are you doing?
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