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chris123 hove actually 06 Nov 19 4.58pm | |
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Originally posted by becky
One small. petty blow for democracy by one fat, old, disgruntled woman....... The Lib-Dem leafleteer turned up just now with their election bumpf for the Somerton & Frome candidate and I'm afraid I took great (if childish) delight in tearing his leaflet in half in front of his face whilst explaining that since that was what they propose to do with my brexit vote, they can't expect to be treated any differently. Shooting the messenger? Definitely! Satisfying? O Yes! I hope you'll recycle in an appropriate way!
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steeleye20 Croydon 06 Nov 19 5.12pm | |
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Originally posted by becky
One small. petty blow for democracy by one fat, old, disgruntled woman....... The Lib-Dem leafleteer turned up just now with their election bumpf for the Somerton & Frome candidate and I'm afraid I took great (if childish) delight in tearing his leaflet in half in front of his face whilst explaining that since that was what they propose to do with my brexit vote, they can't expect to be treated any differently. Shooting the messenger? Definitely! Even at your age, trying to win friends and influence people Satisfying? O Yes! Better lock up well tonight, those liberal democrats don't take kindly to rude old bats.
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becky over the moon 06 Nov 19 5.16pm | |
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Originally posted by chris123
I hope you'll recycle in an appropriate way! Yes, I'm having any left still useful given for transplant and the rest cremated and scattered at sea.
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cryrst The garden of England 06 Nov 19 6.57pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Better lock up well tonight, those liberal democrats don't take kindly to rude old bats. The only bats are the ones following that witch thornberry.
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Painter Croydon 06 Nov 19 7.22pm | |
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Its only been about a week, since the election was announced. After watching the news in the last week, it is pathetic all these candidates descending on hospitals and schools etc. They have no intention of implementing anything they promise, if they can possibly get away with it.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Nov 19 11.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
I find myself in the unfamiliar position of agreeing with you 100%. I know. Maybe he’s had a moment of clarity and given up crystal Meth.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 07 Nov 19 12.19am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
Never felt so flat with regards to an election before. Especially one with so much at stake with regards to not only Brexit but our collective faith in the democratic process. Yes, I want the Tories to win but solely because I believe they are the only option that will allow us to exit the EU. How meaningful that exit will be, I am not sure and have no real faith in Johnson to do anything else other than what is good for Johnson but I guess the same could be said for all of them. Once there is one less star on that s***ty flag, I reckon I might turn my back on all this political malarkey. A waste of energy and time. It’s close to winter, days are short, the most boring time of year is coming, Christmas, and the most disingenuous politicians are desperate for votes, or are they, and are many people listening? 3 GE’s in 4 years isn’t it and 3 elections this year. The public are like an adolescent after his 5th attempted w@nk. Just get us out so we can begin the long road to redefining OUR country after losing that autonomy we supposedly shouldn’t have.
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W12 07 Nov 19 6.29am | |
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I posted this on the Brexit thread..... The Political Declaration is not a vague wish list, but an attempt to bind the UK to EU policies. The Political Declaration accompanying the draft Withdrawal Agreement has been largely overlooked in the furore over the backstop and the resounding defeat at the meaningful vote on 16th January 2019. However, the letter written to the Prime Minister by Jean-Claude Juncker and Donald Tusk on 15th January confirms that: a) “There is an important link between the Withdrawal Agreement and the Political Declaration, reflecting Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union. As stated in Article 184 of the Withdrawal Agreement and reflected also in Paragraph 138 of the Political Declaration, the European Union and the United Kingdom have committed to use best endeavours, in good faith and in full respect of their respective legal orders, to take necessary steps to negotiate expeditiously the agreements governing their future relationship referred to in the Political Declaration.” b) “As for the link between the Withdrawal Agreement and the Political Declaration, to which you make reference in your letter, it can be made clear that these two documents, while being of a different nature, are part of the same negotiated package. In order to underline the close relationship between the two texts, they can be published side by side in the Official Journal in a manner reflecting the link between the two as provided for in Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union (TEU).” It is therefore unwise to dismiss the Political Declaration as a “vague wish-list”. It is far from vague and binds the UK into most areas of EU policy (in many cases under EU law); and should any form of the current draft Withdrawal Agreement pass a second meaningful vote, this Political Declaration will undoubtedly form the basis for the future relationship. The EU’s letter of 15th January did not include any legal text to make the backstop either optional or time-limited. It is unlikely that concessions will be offered on the backstop for the simple reason that it is required to compel the UK to follow both the timing and substance of the negotiations envisaged in the Political Declaration. The following is a summary of my more detailed paragraph-by-paragraph analysis of the Political Declaration: General principles Core values and rights Data protection Participation in Union programmes Economic partnership Services and investment Public procurement Mobility Transport Energy Fishing Competition and “level playing field” Agriculture Security partnership Foreign policy, intelligence and defence Institutional framework Negotiations and timetable
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 07 Nov 19 7.45am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
People are totally confused about their policy. We hear about them going to get this wonderful new deal with the EU which they will put to a confirmatory referendum but then vote against their deal !!! And we hear about their deal is going to include staying in the 'Customs Union' and 'Single Market' but this is in effect remaining in the EU.So the confirmatory referendum will ask "Remain or Remain" !!!! Furthermore any deal/referendum will be in about SIX months !! Dither and delay.
If you keep repeating that enough it might come true - seems to be the very overt Tory strategy at the moment. Also funny to hear people who no doubt supported Boris’ leadership campaign on the premise that he was going to get us a better deal mock the idea now... don’t get me wrong, it was always a ridiculous claim that this magical better deal existed, but the hypocrisy is pathetic.
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DanH SW2 07 Nov 19 8.15am | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
If you keep repeating that enough it might come true - seems to be the very overt Tory strategy at the moment. Also funny to hear people who no doubt supported Boris’ leadership campaign on the premise that he was going to get us a better deal mock the idea now... don’t get me wrong, it was always a ridiculous claim that this magical better deal existed, but the hypocrisy is pathetic. It would be amusing how readily Tory supporters parrot the obvious untrue soundbites if it wasn’t so scary. And Corbyn supporters are supposed to be the cult.
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chris123 hove actually 07 Nov 19 8.19am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
It would be amusing how readily Tory supporters parrot the obvious untrue soundbites if it wasn’t so scary. And Corbyn supporters are supposed to be the cult. The Jeremy Corbyn position on defence is scary in my view.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Nov 19 8.32am | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
If you keep repeating that enough it might come true - seems to be the very overt Tory strategy at the moment. Also funny to hear people who no doubt supported Boris’ leadership campaign on the premise that he was going to get us a better deal mock the idea now... don’t get me wrong, it was always a ridiculous claim that this magical better deal existed, but the hypocrisy is pathetic. I have already stated that the deal is not Valhalla but it was said that the EU would not re-open the Withdrawal Agreement, nor get rid of the 'Backstop' and the rest as they say is history. Apropos the "Truth" perhaps Labour might wish to hoe this road after their ridiculous claims about the NHS under a Conservative government.
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