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jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Mar 17 3.12pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Mental health provision is always a hard sell as it's difficult to show its effectiveness because essentally it's measured in negative consequences not occurring that would otherwise happen. How effective it is ultimately is hard to say....But personally I feel it's an important funding area. The last head of department I worked under was a Muslim....a capable man....I could never quite get my head around how he could believe such obvious b*llocks....But I cynically think a lot of it revolves around the status it can give to successful people in the community. It takes a brave person to reject religion....especially Islam because....well the religion can be very extreme towards apostates. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Mar 2017 3.05pm) I used to have an Iranian exile working for me who described himself as an atheist Muslim. I couldn't really get my head around it, but he said it was more complicated than 'whether you believe in Allah or not'. He said it was more like being born of a Jewish mother making you Jewish, no matter what you actually believe yourself to be. That said I used to know an Ishmalli girl when I worked in Slough and she was a total party animal, and probably had more sexual conquests than most men I know, and she was far more religious than he was. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 29 Mar 17 3.12pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Mental health provision is always a hard sell as it's difficult to show its effectiveness because essentally it's measured in negative consequences not occurring that would otherwise happen.

How effective it is ultimately is hard to say....But personally I feel it's an important funding area.

The last head of department I worked under was a Muslim....a capable man....I could never quite get my head around how he could believe such obvious b*llocks....But I cynically think a lot of it revolves around the status it can give to successful people in the community.

It takes a brave person to reject religion....especially Islam because....well the religion can be very extreme towards apostates.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Mar 2017 3.05pm)

I used to have an Iranian exile working for me who described himself as an atheist Muslim. I couldn't really get my head around it, but he said it was more complicated than 'whether you believe in Allah or not'. He said it was more like being born of a Jewish mother making you Jewish, no matter what you actually believe yourself to be.

That said I used to know an Ishmalli girl when I worked in Slough and she was a total party animal, and probably had more sexual conquests than most men I know, and she was far more religious than he was.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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hedgehog50 Croydon 29 Mar 17 3.24pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I used to have an Iranian exile working for me who described himself as an atheist Muslim. I couldn't really get my head around it, but he said it was more complicated than 'whether you believe in Allah or not'. He said it was more like being born of a Jewish mother making you Jewish, no matter what you actually believe yourself to be. That said I used to know an Ishmalli girl when I worked in Slough and she was a total party animal, and probably had more sexual conquests than most men I know, and she was far more religious than he was. Wise of him to be an exile then, Iran has hanged apostates (absolutely nothing to do with Islam of course). We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 29 Mar 17 3.24pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I used to have an Iranian exile working for me who described himself as an atheist Muslim. I couldn't really get my head around it, but he said it was more complicated than 'whether you believe in Allah or not'. He said it was more like being born of a Jewish mother making you Jewish, no matter what you actually believe yourself to be.

Wise of him to be an exile then, Iran has hanged apostates (absolutely nothing to do with Islam of course).

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Mar 17 3.31pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Getting away with insults again Nick? The whole liberal,left position from the usual posters is to virtually ignore the route cause of the problem and introduce all kinds of other elements to fudge the issue. It's like a disease with you lot. Cobblers. Your stance... Housing crisis brought on by lack of housebuilding - immigration Not enough money for the NHS - immigration I stubbed my toe - immigration.
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Shizzlehurst 29 Mar 17 3.31pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Getting away with insults again Nick?

The whole liberal,left position from the usual posters is to virtually ignore the route cause of the problem and introduce all kinds of other elements to fudge the issue. It's like a disease with you lot.

Cobblers. Your stance...

Housing crisis brought on by lack of housebuilding - immigration
Not enough money for the NHS - immigration
I stubbed my toe - immigration.

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Hrolf The Ganger 29 Mar 17 3.38pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Cobblers. Your stance... Housing crisis brought on by lack of housebuilding - immigration Not enough money for the NHS - immigration I stubbed my toe - immigration. That is not my stance though is it. My stance is that you can't build enough houses for a population that is growing by 300,000 a year. You can't properly fund an NHS that caters for 300,000 (plus tourists)more people a year plus more old people and more services. And I haven't stubbed my toe.
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Originally posted by nickgusset

Cobblers. Your stance...

Housing crisis brought on by lack of housebuilding - immigration
Not enough money for the NHS - immigration
I stubbed my toe - immigration.

That is not my stance though is it.

My stance is that you can't build enough houses for a population that is growing by 300,000 a year.
You can't properly fund an NHS that caters for 300,000 (plus tourists)more people a year plus more old people and more services.
And I haven't stubbed my toe.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Mar 17 4.28pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Wise of him to be an exile then, Iran has hanged apostates (absolutely nothing to do with Islam of course). I think they'd have hanged him even if he wasn't an exile on the basis of being gay. Although according to him the cities aren't too bad, there is quite an underground gay scene. The crime tends to be being 'out or open'. The Iranian secret police protect a lot of the gay haunts, because it gives them leverage over the Revolutionary guard etc. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 29 Mar 17 4.28pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Wise of him to be an exile then, Iran has hanged apostates (absolutely nothing to do with Islam of course).

I think they'd have hanged him even if he wasn't an exile on the basis of being gay.

Although according to him the cities aren't too bad, there is quite an underground gay scene. The crime tends to be being 'out or open'. The Iranian secret police protect a lot of the gay haunts, because it gives them leverage over the Revolutionary guard etc.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Mar 17 4.29pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger That is not my stance though is it. My stance is that you can't build enough houses for a population that is growing by 300,000 a year. You can't properly fund an NHS that caters for 300,000 (plus tourists)more people a year plus more old people and more services. And I haven't stubbed my toe. That because of immigrants too. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 29 Mar 17 4.29pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That is not my stance though is it.

That because of immigrants too.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Hrolf The Ganger 29 Mar 17 5.17pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I think they'd have hanged him even if he wasn't an exile on the basis of being gay. there is quite an underground gay scene. Although according to him the cities aren't too bad, The crime tends to be being 'out or open'. The Iranian secret police protect a lot of the gay haunts, because it gives them leverage over the Revolutionary guard etc. You mean dead?
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Hrolf The Ganger

29 Mar 17 5.17pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I think they'd have hanged him even if he wasn't an exile on the basis of being gay.
there is quite an underground gay scene.
Although according to him the cities aren't too bad, The crime tends to be being 'out or open'. The Iranian secret police protect a lot of the gay haunts, because it gives them leverage over the Revolutionary guard etc.

You mean dead?

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Hrolf The Ganger 29 Mar 17 5.19pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 That because of immigrants too. Badum badum Tish!
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29 Mar 17 5.19pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

That because of immigrants too.

Badum badum Tish!

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jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Mar 17 5.23pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You mean dead? Apparently it turns out that plenty of the homophobic theocratic Nazi types love the cock. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 29 Mar 17 5.23pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You mean dead?

Apparently it turns out that plenty of the homophobic theocratic Nazi types love the cock.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Hrolf The Ganger 29 Mar 17 5.56pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Apparently it turns out that plenty of the homophobic theocratic Nazi types love the cock. I'd have thought they spent enough time on all fours already.
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29 Mar 17 5.56pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Apparently it turns out that plenty of the homophobic theocratic Nazi types love the cock.

I'd have thought they spent enough time on all fours already.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 29 Mar 17 6.05pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Apparently it turns out that plenty of the homophobic theocratic Nazi types love the cock. I thought they didn't like it up 'em? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 29 Mar 17 6.05pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Apparently it turns out that plenty of the homophobic theocratic Nazi types love the cock.

I thought they didn't like it up 'em?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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hedgehog50 Croydon 29 Mar 17 8.23pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I used to have an Iranian exile working for me who described himself as an atheist Muslim. I couldn't really get my head around it, but he said it was more complicated than 'whether you believe in Allah or not'. He said it was more like being born of a Jewish mother making you Jewish, no matter what you actually believe yourself to be. That said I used to know an Ishmalli girl when I worked in Slough and she was a total party animal, and probably had more sexual conquests than most men I know, and she was far more religious than he was. What colourful people you have worked with. I'm old enough to remember when working with someone who wore coloured shirts and suede shoes was considered outré. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 29 Mar 17 8.23pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

What colourful people you have worked with. I'm old enough to remember when working with someone who wore coloured shirts and suede shoes was considered outré.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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