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Kermit8 Hevon 19 Nov 15 1.20pm
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 19 Nov 2015 1.00pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Nov 2015 12.10pm Quote nickgusset at 19 Nov 2015 11.57am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 19 Nov 2015 11.45am Quote nickgusset at 18 Nov 2015 10.32pm Quote Lyons550 at 17 Nov 2015 8.25am Quote nickgusset at 16 Nov 2015 9.40pm . Most if not all of those AFTER an event...it needs to be constant...not just because they fear a backlash as a result of their apathy...a simple .gif doesnt cut it nick...also why is it down to you to put forward their views...the whole point is THEY need to sorry to post a meme, but it has a point. This might well be the "official line" but as we saw at the Greece, Turkey game there is a sympathy for Islamic linked causes among Muslims everywhere. This is not that surprising and although not much can be assumed from a football crowd, it seems obvious to me that the majority that are law abiding sensible heads are not really the ones we have to worry about. It is the few percent who are not. As we have seen a few can kill many and we have to deal with that risk at all costs. We are in strange times and personal rights will be eroded as a result. My point is therethere are plenty of Muslims opposing ISIS, something Lyons seems to say isn't happening. It doesn't suit (in my opinion) newspaper agenda to cover it. Actually its quite prevalent in the news, if one chooses to think. IS in Syria is engaged in conflict with the Syrian Army (80% Muslim), Kurds (90% Muslim) and assorted Rebel factions (80% Muslim). They're also fighting in Iraq, where the forces opposing them that we're supporting are Kurds, Shia Militias and the Iraq Army, all of which are almost exclusively Muslim. But people don't want to let that get in the way of their 'hate rage'. Do they really think the US, UK and France are fighting IS alone from the air? They only see what suits their opinion. I almost entirely agree with your last two posts. In practice however, I feel that an ideological/philosophical approach will not tackle the immediate danger to the public. No doubt most Muslims around the world oppose ISIL but all ISIL sympathisers are almost certainly Muslims. An old addage I know but still true. The Muslim community will be under scrutiny and that is a symptom of the times. A certain type of Muslim. Salafists. They make up 4% as previously mentioned. That's where the danger is. That's who we should be targeting. No point in being backward and espousing views about the Muslim population per se as it will just cause resentment and possible unfair treatment and more grief. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Most if not all of those AFTER an event...it needs to be constant...not just because they fear a backlash as a result of their apathy...a simple .gif doesnt cut it nick...also why is it down to you to put forward their views...the whole point is THEY need to

sorry to post a meme, but it has a point.

This might well be the "official line" but as we saw at the Greece, Turkey game there is a sympathy for Islamic linked causes among Muslims everywhere. This is not that surprising and although not much can be assumed from a football crowd, it seems obvious to me that the majority that are law abiding sensible heads are not really the ones we have to worry about. It is the few percent who are not.
As we have seen a few can kill many and we have to deal with that risk at all costs.
We are in strange times and personal rights will be eroded as a result.

My point is therethere are plenty of Muslims opposing ISIS, something Lyons seems to say isn't happening. It doesn't suit (in my opinion) newspaper agenda to cover it.

Actually its quite prevalent in the news, if one chooses to think. IS in Syria is engaged in conflict with the Syrian Army (80% Muslim), Kurds (90% Muslim) and assorted Rebel factions (80% Muslim). They're also fighting in Iraq, where the forces opposing them that we're supporting are Kurds, Shia Militias and the Iraq Army, all of which are almost exclusively Muslim.

But people don't want to let that get in the way of their 'hate rage'. Do they really think the US, UK and France are fighting IS alone from the air?

They only see what suits their opinion.

I almost entirely agree with your last two posts.
In practice however, I feel that an ideological/philosophical approach will not tackle the immediate danger to the public. No doubt most Muslims around the world oppose ISIL but all ISIL sympathisers are almost certainly Muslims. An old addage I know but still true.
The Muslim community will be under scrutiny and that is a symptom of the times.

A certain type of Muslim. Salafists. They make up 4% as previously mentioned. That's where the danger is. That's who we should be targeting. No point in being backward and espousing views about the Muslim population per se as it will just cause resentment and possible unfair treatment and more grief.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Nov 15 1.31pm
Quote Kermit8 at 19 Nov 2015 1.20pm Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 19 Nov 2015 1.00pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 19 Nov 2015 12.10pm Quote nickgusset at 19 Nov 2015 11.57am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 19 Nov 2015 11.45am Quote nickgusset at 18 Nov 2015 10.32pm Quote Lyons550 at 17 Nov 2015 8.25am Quote nickgusset at 16 Nov 2015 9.40pm . Most if not all of those AFTER an event...it needs to be constant...not just because they fear a backlash as a result of their apathy...a simple .gif doesnt cut it nick...also why is it down to you to put forward their views...the whole point is THEY need to sorry to post a meme, but it has a point. This might well be the "official line" but as we saw at the Greece, Turkey game there is a sympathy for Islamic linked causes among Muslims everywhere. This is not that surprising and although not much can be assumed from a football crowd, it seems obvious to me that the majority that are law abiding sensible heads are not really the ones we have to worry about. It is the few percent who are not. As we have seen a few can kill many and we have to deal with that risk at all costs. We are in strange times and personal rights will be eroded as a result. My point is therethere are plenty of Muslims opposing ISIS, something Lyons seems to say isn't happening. It doesn't suit (in my opinion) newspaper agenda to cover it. Actually its quite prevalent in the news, if one chooses to think. IS in Syria is engaged in conflict with the Syrian Army (80% Muslim), Kurds (90% Muslim) and assorted Rebel factions (80% Muslim). They're also fighting in Iraq, where the forces opposing them that we're supporting are Kurds, Shia Militias and the Iraq Army, all of which are almost exclusively Muslim. But people don't want to let that get in the way of their 'hate rage'. Do they really think the US, UK and France are fighting IS alone from the air? They only see what suits their opinion. I almost entirely agree with your last two posts. In practice however, I feel that an ideological/philosophical approach will not tackle the immediate danger to the public. No doubt most Muslims around the world oppose ISIL but all ISIL sympathisers are almost certainly Muslims. An old addage I know but still true. The Muslim community will be under scrutiny and that is a symptom of the times. A certain type of Muslim. Salafists. They make up 4% as previously mentioned. That's where the danger is. That's who we should be targeting. No point in being backward and espousing views about the Muslim population per se as it will just cause resentment and possible unfair treatment and more grief. Not sure anyone has. My objection to Islam is the same as my objection to Christianity or Judaism. Apologies to those I left out. I am slightly prejudiced against non Muslims who keep speaking up for Muslims.
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sorry to post a meme, but it has a point.

My point is therethere are plenty of Muslims opposing ISIS, something Lyons seems to say isn't happening. It doesn't suit (in my opinion) newspaper agenda to cover it.

But people don't want to let that get in the way of their 'hate rage'. Do they really think the US, UK and France are fighting IS alone from the air?

They only see what suits their opinion.

A certain type of Muslim. Salafists. They make up 4% as previously mentioned. That's where the danger is. That's who we should be targeting. No point in being backward and espousing views about the Muslim population per se as it will just cause resentment and possible unfair treatment and more grief.

Not sure anyone has.

My objection to Islam is the same as my objection to Christianity or Judaism. Apologies to those I left out.

I am slightly prejudiced against non Muslims who keep speaking up for Muslims.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Nov 15 2.28pm
Quote nickgusset at 19 Nov 2015 11.57am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 19 Nov 2015 11.45am Quote nickgusset at 18 Nov 2015 10.32pm Quote Lyons550 at 17 Nov 2015 8.25am Quote nickgusset at 16 Nov 2015 9.40pm . Most if not all of those AFTER an event...it needs to be constant...not just because they fear a backlash as a result of their apathy...a simple .gif doesnt cut it nick...also why is it down to you to put forward their views...the whole point is THEY need to sorry to post a meme, but it has a point. This might well be the "official line" but as we saw at the Greece, Turkey game there is a sympathy for Islamic linked causes among Muslims everywhere. This is not that surprising and although not much can be assumed from a football crowd, it seems obvious to me that the majority that are law abiding sensible heads are not really the ones we have to worry about. It is the few percent who are not. As we have seen a few can kill many and we have to deal with that risk at all costs. We are in strange times and personal rights will be eroded as a result. My point is therethere are plenty of Muslims opposing ISIS, something Lyons seems to say isn't happening. It doesn't suit (in my opinion) newspaper agenda to cover it. [Link]
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Shizzlehurst 19 Nov 15 2.28pm

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sorry to post a meme, but it has a point.

My point is therethere are plenty of Muslims opposing ISIS, something Lyons seems to say isn't happening. It doesn't suit (in my opinion) newspaper agenda to cover it.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 19 Nov 15 2.32pm
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Clapham on the Back 19 Nov 15 2.32pm

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Quote nickgusset at 16 Nov 2015 9.40pm

sorry to post a meme, but it has a point.

My point is therethere are plenty of Muslims opposing ISIS, something Lyons seems to say isn't happening. It doesn't suit (in my opinion) newspaper agenda to cover it.

[Link]

A shame they've trotted out a reference to the 'hero' security guard story which has been exposed as complete bollocks.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Nov 15 2.42pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 19 Nov 2015 2.32pm Quote nickgusset at 19 Nov 2015 2.28pm Quote nickgusset at 19 Nov 2015 11.57am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 19 Nov 2015 11.45am Quote nickgusset at 18 Nov 2015 10.32pm Quote Lyons550 at 17 Nov 2015 8.25am Quote nickgusset at 16 Nov 2015 9.40pm . Most if not all of those AFTER an event...it needs to be constant...not just because they fear a backlash as a result of their apathy...a simple .gif doesnt cut it nick...also why is it down to you to put forward their views...the whole point is THEY need to sorry to post a meme, but it has a point. This might well be the "official line" but as we saw at the Greece, Turkey game there is a sympathy for Islamic linked causes among Muslims everywhere. This is not that surprising and although not much can be assumed from a football crowd, it seems obvious to me that the majority that are law abiding sensible heads are not really the ones we have to worry about. It is the few percent who are not. As we have seen a few can kill many and we have to deal with that risk at all costs. We are in strange times and personal rights will be eroded as a result. My point is therethere are plenty of Muslims opposing ISIS, something Lyons seems to say isn't happening. It doesn't suit (in my opinion) newspaper agenda to cover it. [Link] A shame they've trotted out a reference to the 'hero' security guard story which has been exposed as complete bollocks. It is.
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Quote nickgusset at 16 Nov 2015 9.40pm

sorry to post a meme, but it has a point.

My point is therethere are plenty of Muslims opposing ISIS, something Lyons seems to say isn't happening. It doesn't suit (in my opinion) newspaper agenda to cover it.

[Link]

A shame they've trotted out a reference to the 'hero' security guard story which has been exposed as complete bollocks.

It is.

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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Nov 15 3.44pm
Quote nickgusset at 19 Nov 2015 2.28pm Quote nickgusset at 19 Nov 2015 11.57am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 19 Nov 2015 11.45am Quote nickgusset at 18 Nov 2015 10.32pm Quote Lyons550 at 17 Nov 2015 8.25am Quote nickgusset at 16 Nov 2015 9.40pm . Most if not all of those AFTER an event...it needs to be constant...not just because they fear a backlash as a result of their apathy...a simple .gif doesnt cut it nick...also why is it down to you to put forward their views...the whole point is THEY need to sorry to post a meme, but it has a point. This might well be the "official line" but as we saw at the Greece, Turkey game there is a sympathy for Islamic linked causes among Muslims everywhere. This is not that surprising and although not much can be assumed from a football crowd, it seems obvious to me that the majority that are law abiding sensible heads are not really the ones we have to worry about. It is the few percent who are not. As we have seen a few can kill many and we have to deal with that risk at all costs. We are in strange times and personal rights will be eroded as a result. My point is therethere are plenty of Muslims opposing ISIS, something Lyons seems to say isn't happening. It doesn't suit (in my opinion) newspaper agenda to cover it. [Link] So according to that poll at the bottom, there seems to be significant support or open mindedness toward ISIL, particularly in pakistan and Nigeria. Two nationalities who have significant numbers in the UK. I don't think it is unreasonable to suggest that that should be a concern to all of us, including them.
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sorry to post a meme, but it has a point.

My point is therethere are plenty of Muslims opposing ISIS, something Lyons seems to say isn't happening. It doesn't suit (in my opinion) newspaper agenda to cover it.

[Link]

So according to that poll at the bottom, there seems to be significant support or open mindedness toward ISIL, particularly in pakistan and Nigeria. Two nationalities who have significant numbers in the UK.

I don't think it is unreasonable to suggest that that should be a concern to all of us, including them.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Nov 15 3.45pm
[Link] "Corbyn isn’t suggesting inaction. He isn’t saying he wouldn’t support military intervention under any circumstances. What he is saying is that this is an incredibly complicated situation that needs a thoughtful response. In doing so, he’s attempting to bring nuance to an area of policy that has long been dominated by pro interventionists. Challenging that well-entrenched militaristic argument is an attempt to shift the wider debate, it’s not an easy feat and judging by reactions to his comments it’s not a welcome one within the political sphere. But it matters, and it should be heard."
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"Corbyn isn’t suggesting inaction. He isn’t saying he wouldn’t support military intervention under any circumstances. What he is saying is that this is an incredibly complicated situation that needs a thoughtful response. In doing so, he’s attempting to bring nuance to an area of policy that has long been dominated by pro interventionists. Challenging that well-entrenched militaristic argument is an attempt to shift the wider debate, it’s not an easy feat and judging by reactions to his comments it’s not a welcome one within the political sphere. But it matters, and it should be heard."

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Nov 15 3.49pm
[Link] Apparently ISIS recieves financial support from 40 different countries- According to Putin anyway. Why hasn't this been on the front page of the daily's?
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Apparently ISIS recieves financial support from 40 different countries- According to Putin anyway.

Why hasn't this been on the front page of the daily's?

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Ray in Houston Houston 19 Nov 15 3.51pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 19 Nov 2015 12.28pm Can you get one on eBay? Over here you can walk into your friendly, neighbourhood gun show, buy one, and its ammunition, and walk right out the door with it. eBay works too, but you have to wait for it to come by FedEx. Who has the patience for that? We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Can you get one on eBay?

Over here you can walk into your friendly, neighbourhood gun show, buy one, and its ammunition, and walk right out the door with it.

eBay works too, but you have to wait for it to come by FedEx. Who has the patience for that?

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Stuk Top half 19 Nov 15 3.54pm
Quote nickgusset at 19 Nov 2015 3.45pm [Link] "Corbyn isn’t suggesting inaction. He isn’t saying he wouldn’t support military intervention under any circumstances. What he is saying is that this is an incredibly complicated situation that needs a thoughtful response. In doing so, he’s attempting to bring nuance to an area of policy that has long been dominated by pro interventionists. Challenging that well-entrenched militaristic argument is an attempt to shift the wider debate, it’s not an easy feat and judging by reactions to his comments it’s not a welcome one within the political sphere. But it matters, and it should be heard." Why are you speaking for someone, who's speaking for him? He's an idiot, and his own MPs know he's an idiot. We certainly know he's an idiot so stop copying and pasting anything you can find about him. It's dull. Edited by Stuk (19 Nov 2015 3.54pm) Optimistic as ever
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Why are you speaking for someone, who's speaking for him?

He's an idiot, and his own MPs know he's an idiot. We certainly know he's an idiot so stop copying and pasting anything you can find about him. It's dull.

Edited by Stuk (19 Nov 2015 3.54pm)

Optimistic as ever

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 19 Nov 15 4.05pm
If Gusset had been PM in 1940, he wouldn't have declared war on the Germans until they were actually goose-stepping up Whitehall and even then he'd have apologised to them first for getting their feet wet when they landed. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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If Gusset had been PM in 1940, he wouldn't have declared war on the Germans until they were actually goose-stepping up Whitehall and even then he'd have apologised to them first for getting their feet wet when they landed.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Nov 15 4.07pm
Quote Stuk at 19 Nov 2015 3.54pm Quote nickgusset at 19 Nov 2015 3.45pm [Link] "Corbyn isn’t suggesting inaction. He isn’t saying he wouldn’t support military intervention under any circumstances. What he is saying is that this is an incredibly complicated situation that needs a thoughtful response. In doing so, he’s attempting to bring nuance to an area of policy that has long been dominated by pro interventionists. Challenging that well-entrenched militaristic argument is an attempt to shift the wider debate, it’s not an easy feat and judging by reactions to his comments it’s not a welcome one within the political sphere. But it matters, and it should be heard." Why are you speaking for someone, who's speaking for him? He's an idiot, and his own MPs know he's an idiot. We certainly know he's an idiot so stop copying and pasting anything you can find about him. It's dull. Edited by Stuk (19 Nov 2015 3.54pm) For an 'idiot' he's done rather well don't you think? Do you not think we should exhaust all possibilities rather than just bombing the fack out of an area that most certainy contains many many innocents and will more than likely lead to more ISIS anti west sympathisers?
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Why are you speaking for someone, who's speaking for him?

He's an idiot, and his own MPs know he's an idiot. We certainly know he's an idiot so stop copying and pasting anything you can find about him. It's dull.

Edited by Stuk (19 Nov 2015 3.54pm)

For an 'idiot' he's done rather well don't you think?

Do you not think we should exhaust all possibilities rather than just bombing the fack out of an area that most certainy contains many many innocents and will more than likely lead to more ISIS anti west sympathisers?

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