Who cares, what do palace fans actually look back on and remember ? winning the championship against burnley In front of a record crowd and Brighton finishing 2nd, Liverpool semi, both fa Cup finals, Hopkins curling one in, freedman against Stockport, Hillsborough heroes, West ham at the millennium stadium, zaha away at Brighton in the play offs. I want a European run in with them memories.

I can see Roy doing another season. Benteke staying and a similar approach and style next season. Sorry, just think that is where this is going

What about a club that appears not to have a pot to piss in?

Just being in the Premier is as high as Palace can realistically go, we are a comfortable mid table side, not worried with relegation battles for the last 3 seasons. Your right there is no chance of breaking into the top table, the ones there have made sure of that. As for going into Europe, what’s the point, we haven’t a big enough squad to deal with it and we have zero chance of winning or any domestic cups as the years go by, as big clubs squads get better each year.

Roy just happens to be manager, so is seen as the Antichrist by some as he fails to deliver their dreams, it will be no different for the next manager, whoever that maybe.

It’s not easy to break in the top 6 , Everton have been trying for years and invested millions with top rated managers, still can’t do it. A few teams have a purple patch and a good season, but can’t sustain it as their best players get poached by bigger clubs.

That’s what if you are a true long term Palace supporter you have to come to terms with. But it’s football , and as in life you always think you could win the lottery , and maybe next week. Even though it’s proved week in week out what the odds actually are.

Is that really the reason for the anti Roy sentiment as I get the impression that most fans are fairly happy with our mid table position it's just the boring football it is taking us to maintain that position