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DANGERCLOSE Flag London 14 Jun 23 12.14am Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Should just give it to Roy. He's got the best out of Eze

 

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PJEagle Flag London 14 Jun 23 2.40am Send a Private Message to PJEagle Add PJEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Eagle Black.

Brilliant achievement,our Roy is a proper gent, weather he's here nwxt season or not he's a club legend.

The best way we can honour him is to give him and Ray another season

 

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johnmcormick8 Flag Brundish 14 Jun 23 5.43am Send a Private Message to johnmcormick8 Add johnmcormick8 as a friend

Eze explains why Steve should ask Roy and Ray if they fancy another season.
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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Jun 23 7.18am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by johnmcormick8

Eze explains why Steve should ask Roy and Ray if they fancy another season.
[Link]

Is interesting and a nice piece from Ebz.

I do wonder if one of PV's shortcomings was his inability to manage the chaps and not just the players (many may say he did not do that to any effective extent)?

Might be the same with other young managers - the likes of Lampard and Gerrard, who are not that far away from being players themselves, in that trying to rigidly enforce their own belief system into how football is played alongside a lack of softer skills causes problems in man management. Hence the apparent aloofness and seeming lack of responsibility being taken when this did not pan out (it's the players' fault, not mine)?

I often had the feeling PV might almost be seen as a bit of a senior player trying to tell the younger lads what he wanted them to do as opposed to the Roy/Ray paternal and 'wise, old' approach. This might have caused the rigidity and therefore constrictions and restrictions on the players that we witnessed with Roy/Ray unlocking that for improved performances and morale? Probably too early in the morning for my already limited footballing hypotheses however may be food for thought!

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 14 Jun 23 7.31am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Is interesting and a nice piece from Ebz.

I do wonder if one of PV's shortcomings was his inability to manage the chaps and not just the players (many may say he did not do that to any effective extent)?

Might be the same with other young managers - the likes of Lampard and Gerrard, who are not that far away from being players themselves, in that trying to rigidly enforce their own belief system into how football is played alongside a lack of softer skills causes problems in man management. Hence the apparent aloofness and seeming lack of responsibility being taken when this did not pan out (it's the players' fault, not mine)?

I often had the feeling PV might almost be seen as a bit of a senior player trying to tell the younger lads what he wanted them to do as opposed to the Roy/Ray paternal and 'wise, old' approach. This might have caused the rigidity and therefore constrictions and restrictions on the players that we witnessed with Roy/Ray unlocking that for improved performances and morale? Probably too early in the morning for my already limited footballing hypotheses however may be food for thought!

Yes, a very good analysis, and i think a correct one, i am glad that you said Roy and Ray because it is a duo that works, not just Roy

 


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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Jun 23 7.35am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Yes, a very good analysis, and i think a correct one, i am glad that you said Roy and Ray because it is a duo that works, not just Roy

TBF I said that as it is often the players who refer to both, including Ebz in his interview.

Personally, and initially, I was perhaps more pleased to see Ray's milk bottle legs (I own a pair myself ) marching up and down the touchline as I was to see Roy back in there!

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 14 Jun 23 9.11am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Just my view, but I think that the relationship between Parish and Hodgson is good enough for Roy to have already agreed another year if another suitable candidate is not found.

If you believe the report, I read that Brendan Rodgers is returning to Celtic having turned Palace down.

 


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Putitout Flag Oxford 14 Jun 23 9.41am Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Just my view, but I think that the relationship between Parish and Hodgson is good enough for Roy to have already agreed another year if another suitable candidate is not found.

If you believe the report, I read that Brendan Rodgers is returning to Celtic having turned Palace down.

Read that but have not heard it anywhere else so most likely only based on probability. Could be true if Brendan needs a big transfer purse and silverware he isn’t likely to get it at Palace, and silverware is more or less nailed on in Glasgow.
We might not suit him, but then again I for one am not sure he would suit us.
There isn’t a lot out there suitable , the big time winners are highly unlikely to take us on, and even at his age Hodgson, has as much ability as any other contender, in our present situation if Hodgson was a few years younger he would be nailed on.

 

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Jacey Flag 14 Jun 23 11.03am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

If Roy,is up for the challenge,an offer of a one year deal is a non brainer.
In this eventuality,almost guaranteed to maintain our place in the league,rather than an unknown candidate.

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 14 Jun 23 11.15am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Just my view, but I think that the relationship between Parish and Hodgson is good enough for Roy to have already agreed another year if another suitable candidate is not found.

If you believe the report, I read that Brendan Rodgers is returning to Celtic having turned Palace down.


Your view re the Parish/Hodgson relationship may well be right. I'm not convinced, though, that Hodgson wants a full year in charge. However, he may be willing, along with Lewington, to mentor McCarthy for the year and to take the reins himself if it should come to that later in the season.

We are not an attractive proposition for proven PL managers because they know they won't be given the kind of transfer kitty they want. Of the younger manager options wanting to prove themselves, both Gerrard and Lampard have shown they aren't ready for PL, (and I wonder whether they ever will be). Potter remains a possibility unless he's already been approached and said no. I'm not sure that the squad we have would suit the style he wants to play nor whether he is willing to adapt the style of play to the squad we have.

It's fine telling Parish to get the manager position sorted but as we discovered back in 2021, the so-called better managers seem reluctant to want to come here.

Appointing a manager from a foreign league is risky.

Meanwhile, happy Transfer Day to all Palace fans on this site

Edited by doombear (14 Jun 2023 11.16am)

 

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PJEagle Flag London 14 Jun 23 11.20am Send a Private Message to PJEagle Add PJEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jacey

If Roy,is up for the challenge,an offer of a one year deal is a non brainer.
In this eventuality,almost guaranteed to maintain our place in the league,rather than an unknown candidate.

There has been a lot of chatter including from p j eagle about Potter. I can understand that Parish might want to wait till Monday in order acknowledge Roy's enormous contribution, to make the announcement either about another year for Roy and Ray, or Potter if he decides to go for an experienced younger guy like Potter. I'd be happy about either.

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Jun 23 11.26am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by PJEagle

There has been a lot of chatter including from p j eagle about Potter. I can understand that Parish might want to wait till Monday in order acknowledge Roy's enormous contribution, to make the announcement either about another year for Roy and Ray, or Potter if he decides to go for an experienced younger guy like Potter. I'd be happy about either.

Why Monday PJ?? (Very innocent and genuine question )

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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