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becky Flag over the moon 16 Mar 20 6.20pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

What seems apparent is that as this is a new virus there are few certainties, with scientists generally saying it is too early to confirm whether warmer weather will get rid of it or slow it, or whether people will be immune once they've had it. I imagine these uncertainties must make it extremely hard to make decisions. If the UK did go down the herd immunity route and they got it wrong it could result in thousands of deaths that could possibly have been avoided. Whatever happens I hope that from the largest corporations to the man on the street people try and make decisions about more than just their own selfish interests, be it handing over profits to support health services to lending your neighbour a toilet roll.

Personally, I'd sooner make it a gift to them...... wouldn't really want it returned when they've finished

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Mar 20 6.23pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I hear that the government seem to be modifying the advice today and suggesting that the over 70s won't need to "stay indoors" but to be sensible and avoid close contact with others. Which makes perfect sense. With warmer weather around the corner and knowing that fresh air and exercise will keep you healthy going for a walk must be good for you, and no danger to others, so long as you keep the recommended 2 metres distance. My dogs will be happy to know this too!

Building up "herd immunity" also seems sensible. If those young and fit enough to survive this get it, and then develop immunity, the numbers able to spread it reduce proportionately and so will the number infected at any one time. Thus the NHS can handle it over a longer time frame. If they get overwhelmed by a huge peak then the death rate will be higher. Unless I am missing something!

I am wondering if China will see a resurgence once they fully release the brakes because there is no "herd immunity" there and no vaccine yet.

I also wonder whether the global lockdowns we are seeing actually makes much sense. It's beginning to feel like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. If your country already has infections what's the point of stopping travel from another that has them, at the same or a similar level? Surely it's the internal systems to slow the spread and manage the way your health systems cope that really counts. I realise that many people won't want to travel at the moment unless they have to but blanket bans seem to be window dressing rather than of any practical effect.

The idea that globalisation has any responsibility for this, as made by another poster, is really quite ludicrous. Unless every country completely and permanently closed their borders such things as this virus are bound to spread. They might spread faster these days, but spread they always have. Knowing who is here won't stop that.

Hope you have a long lead then!

Totally agree

Unless they shut down all the disgusting markets it will continue

Again I agree, there should have been a world-wide travel ban but, of course, the Chinese were not honest regarding the extent of the problem. My wife is still having to deal with arriving passengers, with no proper protection (only hand gel), Gatwick are even getting flights from China!

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 16 Mar 20 8.06pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

So the update from the Government expert is to stay away from work, pub etc,.....but the glaring omission is that schools are still open.

What better way to spread the virus , than via youngsters who mix in wide circles and might be carriers who are less likely to exhibit symptoms.?

While scientifically sensible to shut schools, it would cause national chaos

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It's what happens when the 5hlt hits the fan that true leaders excel. BJ not doing too well in my opinion. Only time will tell.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (16 Mar 2020 8.09pm)

 


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jeeagles Flag 16 Mar 20 8.36pm

Bit worried about the impact on the economy. Really worried if Billionaires Richard Branson might lose an island.

Been told by my boss that we still have to go into London everyday to keep the business productive, I heard he's Kent's richest man.... His personal wealth is only enough to cover the company payroll for 20months!

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 16 Mar 20 8.37pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

So the update from the Government expert is to stay away from work, pub etc,.....but the glaring omission is that schools are still open.

What better way to spread the virus , than via youngsters who mix in wide circles and might be carriers who are less likely to exhibit symptoms.?

While scientifically sensible to shut schools, it would cause national chaos

Everyone can be a good Manager when it's all going great.
It's what happens when the 5hlt hits the fan that true leaders excel. BJ not doing too well in my opinion. Only time will tell.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (16 Mar 2020 8.09pm)

The modern home setup needs children to be at school. The financial impact on lots of people is going to be severe. Women or men who cannot go to work because schools are shut are going to experience serious financial problems.

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 16 Mar 20 10.13pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Maybe Branson can divert some of his funds from his Space programme rather than going cap in hand to the Govenment/Tax Payer for a bailout.

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 16 Mar 20 10.14pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Maybe Branson can divert some of his funds from his Space programme rather than going cap in hand to the Government/Tax Payer for a bailout.

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 16 Mar 20 10.15pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

^^^^^^^^^ Sorry Mods meant to post to the Airlines thread!!

 


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palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 16 Mar 20 10.42pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

^^^^^^^^^ Sorry Mods meant to post to the Airlines thread!!

Mile High bender.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Mar 20 5.30am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

Mile High bender.

Haaaaaa
You couldn't wait could you

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 17 Mar 20 7.04am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Everyone can be a good Manager when it's all going great.
It's what happens when the 5hlt hits the fan that true leaders excel. BJ not doing too well in my opinion. Only time will tell.

The opposition seem to agree that the Government is doing Ok on the whole. Even John McDonnell agreed on radio that he wouldn't have done much differently

 

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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 17 Mar 20 7.54am Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

If the Government closes schools, the parents are still going to have to work which means the burden of responsibility falls on the grandparents the same group of people most susceptible to the virus.

Leaving the schools open makes the most sense.

 


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