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 CambridgeEagle  Sydenham 05 Oct 17 1.09pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Why are you being derogatory to someone who has posted nothing like an insult towards you? They're simply posting their opinion about the topic. You don't have to agree. I would've thought something had been picked up by GMP or GCHQ before granting him his accreditation, more so than the name should've been flagged by the party itself. Hardly anyone knows him as Simon Brodkin. Why? He's not got a criminal record and he's not on a terrorist list or anything like that. Sure it's embarrassing for the Tories but it's not like it was a massive breach of security letting him in.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Oct 17 1.14pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Why? He's not got a criminal record and he's not on a terrorist list or anything like that. Sure it's embarrassing for the Tories but it's not like it was a massive breach of security letting him in. Can't Boris sue him for libel for saying he asked the guy to do it?
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 05 Oct 17 1.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What he did was not acceptable. If you accept this then you will be certain to get the same for Labour.....This is what happens. Parties have a right to stage their conferences. No one is questioning whether parties have a right to stage their conferences, but the organisation is up to them and their security contractors (in this case G4S). The bloke wasn't on any sort of criminal or terrorist watch list and had no weapons. What he did doesn't infringe on their right to host a conference. It's very hard to see how you stop someone from doing this kind of thing unless you have serious vetting of everyone (very expensive, takes a long time, off putting to many people and can't be 100% perfect), or you host it in a venue where people are basically kettled around so that they can't get anywhere near anyone who could potentially be the subject of such pranks. It seems like some right wingers are trying to use their outrage at the prankster as a smoke screen for the mess created by the Tories and the slow and excruciating demise of May.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 05 Oct 17 1.16pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Can't Boris sue him for libel for saying he asked the guy to do it? Given libel involves the written word I doubt it. It's not going to be slander either as no-one will have believed Boris did actually ask him to do it.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 05 Oct 17 1.19pm |
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| npn Crowborough 05 Oct 17 1.20pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Why are you being derogatory to someone who has posted nothing like an insult towards you? They're simply posting their opinion about the topic. You don't have to agree. I would've thought something had been picked up by GMP or GCHQ before granting him his accreditation, more so than the name should've been flagged by the party itself. Hardly anyone knows him as Simon Brodkin. Thanks Stu but no defence of me necessary - it reflects what I said on another thread about the deterioration of debate quality on here "spend 5 minutes talking to someone....nope, clearly can't hold a mature debate, therefore I'm out"
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Oct 17 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Given libel involves the written word I doubt it. It's not going to be slander either as no-one will have believed Boris did actually ask him to do it. Tux would.
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| npn Crowborough 05 Oct 17 1.23pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Why? He's not got a criminal record and he's not on a terrorist list or anything like that. Sure it's embarrassing for the Tories but it's not like it was a massive breach of security letting him in. I have no problem with letting him in, or even if he chose to heckle from the audience but I have a big problem with him being able to get that close to the leader of the country unaccosted. Surely you can see what a security risk that is? If I were a terrorist, my mouth would be watering seeing how easy that was
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Kermit8  Hevon 05 Oct 17 1.26pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What he did was not acceptable. If you accept this then you will be certain to get the same for Labour.....This is what happens. Parties have a right to stage their conferences.
I thought it was brave, foolhardy and amusing so definitely acceptable.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 05 Oct 17 1.27pm |
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Originally posted by npn
I have no problem with letting him in, or even if he chose to heckle from the audience but I have a big problem with him being able to get that close to the leader of the country unaccosted. Surely you can see what a security risk that is? If I were a terrorist, my mouth would be watering seeing how easy that was Sure. But he was checked on the way in for weapons. What do you suggest to stop that kind of thing happening? Tie everyone to their seats? Hammond approached her and gave her a cough sweet. Could have been laced with cyanide.
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| Stuk Top half 05 Oct 17 1.30pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Why? He's not got a criminal record and he's not on a terrorist list or anything like that. Sure it's embarrassing for the Tories but it's not like it was a massive breach of security letting him in. He has in Switzerland for starters, I don't know if he does here. Other than that very annoying character he had and stunts like these I don't know much about him as Simon Brodkin. I would've thought it would be flagged up by one of those two bodies, but I thought wrong clearly.
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| npn Crowborough 05 Oct 17 1.31pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Sure. But he was checked on the way in for weapons. What do you suggest to stop that kind of thing happening? Tie everyone to their seats? Hammond approached her and gave her a cough sweet. Could have been laced with cyanide. True enough, and these events tend to try to be open as much as possible, so it's a security nightmare. All I'm saying is, if you pull something like that and subsequently get taken down, then I will be neither surprised nor sympathetic. Incidentally, regarding the bold bit, I, too, would assume so, but I don't know for sure, and at point blank range anything from a bazooka down to a pointed stick can be a potentially lethal weapon, which is even more reason I was surprised he was allowed to get so close Edited by npn (05 Oct 2017 1.33pm)
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