Follow them for a week or so. Then tell me if you still think trump is a part of it all

It’s a fascinating world and all of it comes out in the pressers or papers a week later. It shows you how Obama is going down too. Beleive what you wish, but if you really look at this site, it does make you think thrice

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Mueller stated himself in front of all the world's cameras, after spending tens of millions of taxpayer money, that there was no evidence that Trump was guilty.

Yet you do nothing but deny and spread misinformation about it.

As for your waffle about a new regime convicting Trump. ...well it won't be on Russia-gate and it wouldn't happen anyway and if you thought about it you'd understand why.

It's just extra delicious because it's another one of your predictions that time will soon demonstrate exists only within your TDS dream world.

If the Democrats win, I'll give it six months and then I'll post on here reminding everyone about yet another incorrect WE prediction.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

It doesn't really matter who is in power the same history tends to repeat itself with score settling more often than not the major motive behind the scenes.

I'm not saying that major abuses shouldn't be investigated if there is genuine evidence for it but you also can't be blamed for suspicion when it fits the same old usual pattern.

It's not as though there aren't more important national issues that these great institutions of state should be directed onto.

The polarisd levels have all has a bit of the whiff of the end of Rome about it, which scares me a tad. The only mechanism that pulls back from that is that both of these parties have the same higher globalised interests that really don't want that....even if the country itself isn't cohesive anymore.

The aftermath of the election will be more interesting and possibly affect us just as much as the result itself.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Oct 2020 9.42am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Excellent post.

You know since I became more politically interested....probably around 2015 I've slowly come to realise some standard truths about western politics, that were always there but have never been acknowledged.
My slowless in realising this is because the system itself presents half truths and lies by omission. It looks to gate keep the harsher truths from the wider public.

As a normie you go through life thinking you are much freer then you actually are. The closer truth is that you are free only within a limited context.

One of those realising truths is that democracy is a myth, in the sense that changing your party makes any significant change to your life.

I was indoctrinated, as a normie like everybody else. As my unknowing indoctrinators were themselves. We were all raised in the same ideas about western democracy and freedom. Ideas that were far more true perhaps fifty or more years ago but which have slowly become much less true over time.

The leaders presented to us only hold a certain level of power. The greater powers lie above the leaders and can be described as a loosely affiliated (I don't go with a controlling cabal or conspiracy) set of globalized interests, sometimes but not exclusively corporate, who tend to share the same ideas and aims and hence collectively affect the direction of the west much more effectively than any elected state leader.

There have always been powers 'behind the thrones' however while there was always influence in past times it's only since the rise and expansion of the wealth classes and the corporates that this power base has been able to much more fully spread its influence and power way over any even half legitimate level.

They lobby and fund politicians for compliance as the power behind the thrones. They fund the media and institutions, especially educational universities and they importantly fund NGOs and activism to promote and enact its ideas and also to prosecute those who are against its ideas...for example, 'hope not hate'.

You mentioned Bloomberg and he is just one of the bigger fish in that collective pond whose activities and efforts are aimed at this undemocratic use of power.

No change of national party or president can break the collective direction they move towards.

That's why Trump was such a spanner in the works for them, because unlike someone like Orban and some minor European countries, he is the leader of the most powerful and influential country in the world....and he only half shares their ideas.

It would be wrong to characterise Trump as anti globalised interests as a lot in common with them in certain areas, israel for example. However, where he differs, he differs significantly. For example, his protectionism, nationalism and immigration are directly against their collective interests and it feeds into the unprecedented efforts against him.

So I suppose I'll end by repeating that democracy is a smokescreen for normies and that the west becomes less free and more polarised as time goes by.

It isn't by chance....all we see are the waves at the surface while most of us are ignorant to the many currents directing them below.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Oct 2020 11.51am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

All superb stuff but this is the bit for me that stands out. 2016 was a year in which the Globalists got their arses kicked. First of all Brexit, making an utter mockery of all supposed conventional political wisdom, then followed by Trump whose victory took whatever was left of this political elites supposed nous, balled it up, wiped its arse and then discarded it through an open window.

Utterly humiliated them.

But they are not defeated and have come back with a vengence. They want Trump out and are more than happy to flout every rule in the book to do so. And backed by an utterly compliant Left who seem to have abandoned any kind of principled stance (with the odd few notable exceptions)
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And it is them that I truly struggle with. Biden is a full on return to the US engaging in wars all over the globe. They will back down in the face of Chinese agression and launch endless missiles against Middle Eastern countries for no other purpose than to increase the share price of defence companies.

I genuinely think I will punch the first leftie in the face who has cucked for Biden before then proclaiming themselves horrified when the missiles and drone strikes commences once again should the Democrats take over in the White House. Never felt such loathing before for them but I simply have had a gutful of their pious and pathetic virtue signalling.

I get why they don't like Trump but seriously, has he been that bad a US President? The US economy was booming before Covid, it had been withdrawing its troops from all sorts of warzones and in short, he has actually, if you ignore the rhetoric, been a pretty effectful US President who much more than any others has done what he said he would.

So don't support Trump. That is fine. But cheering on Biden? Who represents the very worst of the corporate interests that many on the Left claim to detest? Beyond comprehension other than a ludicrous vanity because Trumps victory in 2016 was called impossible by many of them prior.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.