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Stuk Flag Top half 13 Dec 16 3.24pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

How many steam locomotives do Southern own too?

I'm surprised they aren't still moaning about the stoker losing his role.

 


Optimistic as ever

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mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 13 Dec 16 3.29pm Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

If this is to be the case, what are the government planning to do with all the people for whom technology has made their jobs redundant. Will they be referred to as workshy and feckless?

Lord 'elp us when the robots form a union.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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JRW2 Flag Dulwich 13 Dec 16 3.30pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Interestingly on the beeb they say:

Transport secretary Chris Grayling dubbed the action a "deliberate act of militancy" and claimed Aslef had warned him to expect "10 years of industrial action" at a meeting in September.

The response apparently is:
Aslef's general secretary Mick Whelan said: "The strikes this week are not, whatever Mr Grayling tries to suggest, politically motivated.

"We have a trade dispute with GTR Southern, and only a poor government would seek to spin it any other way.

"We were willing to go to ACAS last week but GTR Southern refused because they wanted to go to court.

No Denial of the 10 year of strikes that I can see

On BBC2's "Daily Politics" earlier today Whelan did backtrack (no pun intended) on the "10 years", and said that it had been taken out of context.

 

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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 13 Dec 16 3.48pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

On BBC2's "Daily Politics" earlier today Whelan did backtrack (no pun intended) on the "10 years", and said that it had been taken out of context.

I'd be interested in what context he said it. Given Grayling a decent sized stick to beat him with

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

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Stuk Flag Top half 13 Dec 16 3.50pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

I'd be interested in what context he said it. Given Grayling a decent sized stick to beat him with

His excerpt is here:

[Link]

 


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elgrande Flag bedford 13 Dec 16 3.51pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Another man of the people....on 120k a year

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Stuk Flag Top half 13 Dec 16 3.58pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

His excerpt is here:

[Link]

Not denied, not back tracked. Basically said he said that about another issue. 2-3 mins in.

 


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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 13 Dec 16 4.15pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

Not denied, not back tracked. Basically said he said that about another issue. 2-3 mins in.

Cheers

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

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Helmet46 Flag Croydon 13 Dec 16 4.38pm Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

If this is to be the case, what are the government planning to do with all the people for whom technology has made their jobs redundant. Will they be referred to as workshy and feckless?


I'm sure they should be allowed to modernise and become more efficient. My industry has shrunk massively because of technological advances. I cannot recall any Govt helped us. We had to retrain. It's what happens.

 

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Stuk Flag Top half 13 Dec 16 4.44pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Helmet46


I'm sure they should be allowed to modernise and become more efficient. My industry has shrunk massively because of technological advances. I cannot recall any Govt helped us. We had to retrain. It's what happens.

Instagram - worth a billion with about 13 or 14 employees.

Kodak - had 145,000 employees and went bankrupt.

 


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gambler Flag Kent 13 Dec 16 4.56pm Send a Private Message to gambler Add gambler as a friend

Talks at ACAS wednesday apparently.

 

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Helmet46 Flag Croydon 13 Dec 16 5.18pm Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

Instagram - worth a billion with about 13 or 14 employees.

Kodak - had 145,000 employees and went bankrupt.

Is exactly my point. When I said my industry, that's actually grown financially but with massive staff number reductions because we've used new technology and made it more efficient and cost effective.

Edited by Helmet46 (13 Dec 2016 5.19pm)

Edited by Helmet46 (13 Dec 2016 5.22pm)

 

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