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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 14 Aug 16 11.01am
Originally posted by 7mins Another black man shot, another riot. This guy had a stolen hand gun, and refused to put it down. Let's see the details of this emerge. BLM however don't need the details, they have already said "When will these unjustified murders stop?" Recycling the same flawed argument every time there's a killing doesn't make you any more right.
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Originally posted by 7mins

Another black man shot, another riot. This guy had a stolen hand gun, and refused to put it down. Let's see the details of this emerge. BLM however don't need the details, they have already said "When will these unjustified murders stop?"

Recycling the same flawed argument every time there's a killing doesn't make you any more right.

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7mins In the bush 14 Aug 16 12.47pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Recycling the same flawed argument every time there's a killing doesn't make you any more right. Explain my flawed argument? I've not stated opinion, I've said let's wait for the full facts. What can you disagree with, you don't want to wait for the facts???
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In the bush 14 Aug 16 12.47pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Recycling the same flawed argument every time there's a killing doesn't make you any more right.

Explain my flawed argument?
I've not stated opinion, I've said let's wait for the full facts. What can you disagree with, you don't want to wait for the facts???

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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Aug 16 1.15pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Recycling the same flawed argument every time there's a killing doesn't make you any more right. Tell me. Did you think OJ was innocent? Let's get the facts of this before we judge.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Recycling the same flawed argument every time there's a killing doesn't make you any more right.

Tell me.

Did you think OJ was innocent?

Let's get the facts of this before we judge.

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7mins In the bush 14 Aug 16 2.47pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Tell me. Did you think OJ was innocent? Let's get the facts of this before we judge. Ha. The facts are this dude had a long criminal record, had a illegal firearm and refused to put it down, he was given several warning Police officer gets brick thrown in his face Fire brigade shot at. BLM describe it as murder, without knowing facts
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In the bush 14 Aug 16 2.47pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Tell me.

Did you think OJ was innocent?

Let's get the facts of this before we judge.

Ha.

The facts are this dude had a long criminal record, had a illegal firearm and refused to put it down, he was given several warning
Police officer gets brick thrown in his face
Fire brigade shot at.
BLM describe it as murder, without knowing facts

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7mins In the bush 15 Aug 16 3.42am
So, facts emerge. Dude had lengthy criminal record, his dad was in and out of prison. The guy pulled a gun on the officer, BLM call it a murder on Fox. Jailbird dad says "whites" are killing young black males. The officer who shot him was black. Oh and groups of blacks were hunting White people in Milwaukee (several were beaten) BLM and the media are a disgrace.
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In the bush 15 Aug 16 3.42am

So, facts emerge.
Dude had lengthy criminal record, his dad was in and out of prison. The guy pulled a gun on the officer, BLM call it a murder on Fox.
Jailbird dad says "whites" are killing young black males.

The officer who shot him was black.

Oh and groups of blacks were hunting White people in Milwaukee (several were beaten)

BLM and the media are a disgrace.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Aug 16 9.50am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Tell me. Did you think OJ was innocent? Let's get the facts of this before we judge. Yes, but I am also pretty certain he also murdered his ex-wife and her lover. The law can be a odd thing at times. Definitely not guilty, but I am certain he did it. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 15 Aug 16 9.50am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Tell me.

Did you think OJ was innocent?

Let's get the facts of this before we judge.

Yes, but I am also pretty certain he also murdered his ex-wife and her lover. The law can be a odd thing at times. Definitely not guilty, but I am certain he did it.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Aug 16 9.54am
Originally posted by 7mins Ha. The facts are this dude had a long criminal record, had a illegal firearm and refused to put it down, he was given several warning Police officer gets brick thrown in his face Fire brigade shot at. BLM describe it as murder, without knowing facts Facts, or the official line. This is why you need independent enquiries into such events, to establish the facts. I'm not saying either side is right, but there in lies the problem. The police aren't trusted, BLM seem to be more trusted than the police these days, even though I don't trust them as they're not an organisation with no official culpability (pretty much like many US Police Depts). The US in providing to provide proper regulate ons, requirements, training and oversight of its police forces are in a situation now where they aren't trusted, and probably will struggle to ever recover that trust. Its their own fault as well, because of the history of poor oversight, decades of closed ranks and political exploitation of enforcement by officials that have ended up dispropitionately targeting poor (and thus black) areas. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 15 Aug 16 9.54am

Originally posted by 7mins

Ha.

Facts, or the official line. This is why you need independent enquiries into such events, to establish the facts.

I'm not saying either side is right, but there in lies the problem. The police aren't trusted, BLM seem to be more trusted than the police these days, even though I don't trust them as they're not an organisation with no official culpability (pretty much like many US Police Depts).

The US in providing to provide proper regulate ons, requirements, training and oversight of its police forces are in a situation now where they aren't trusted, and probably will struggle to ever recover that trust.

Its their own fault as well, because of the history of poor oversight, decades of closed ranks and political exploitation of enforcement by officials that have ended up dispropitionately targeting poor (and thus black) areas.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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7mins In the bush 15 Aug 16 11.35am
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Facts, or the official line. This is why you need independent enquiries into such events, to establish the facts. I'm not saying either side is right, but there in lies the problem. The police aren't trusted, BLM seem to be more trusted than the police these days, even though I don't trust them as they're not an organisation with no official culpability (pretty much like many US Police Depts). The US in providing to provide proper regulate ons, requirements, training and oversight of its police forces are in a situation now where they aren't trusted, and probably will struggle to ever recover that trust. Its their own fault as well, because of the history of poor oversight, decades of closed ranks and political exploitation of enforcement by officials that have ended up dispropitionately targeting poor (and thus black) areas. It's facts, it's on camera. He runs, turns back pulls a gun out aims at police officer. BLM described at as murder. Father blamed white people. White people attacked Officer that shot him attacked.
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7mins

In the bush 15 Aug 16 11.35am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Facts, or the official line. This is why you need independent enquiries into such events, to establish the facts.

It's facts, it's on camera. He runs, turns back pulls a gun out aims at police officer.

BLM described at as murder.

Father blamed white people.

White people attacked

Officer that shot him attacked.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Aug 16 1.19pm
Originally posted by 7mins It's facts, it's on camera. He runs, turns back pulls a gun out aims at police officer. BLM described at as murder. Father blamed white people. White people attacked Officer that shot him attacked. Sounds like a justified shooting to me. Pointing a gun at anyone, is grounds for self defence anywhere in the world. Shame its come to this. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 15 Aug 16 1.19pm

Originally posted by 7mins

It's facts, it's on camera. He runs, turns back pulls a gun out aims at police officer.

BLM described at as murder.

Father blamed white people.

White people attacked

Officer that shot him attacked.

Sounds like a justified shooting to me. Pointing a gun at anyone, is grounds for self defence anywhere in the world.

Shame its come to this.

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7mins In the bush 15 Aug 16 1.29pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Sounds like a justified shooting to me. Pointing a gun at anyone, is grounds for self defence anywhere in the world. Shame its come to this. Yes, but this shows my point about BLM (and the media to some extent) they called it murder, they couldn't care less if it was justifiable or not. The lads dad said "whites" are killing us, he had no idea it was a black police officer. It's the language of hate, it's not the currency that's needed right now. You then ask yourself why, why don't they care for facts? And you start to wonder if it's a power grab... Are they using it for self interest? Are they trying to incite racial hatred? Are they trying to deflect from the real problems? None of us can say for sure... But BLM being so evil and s*** stirring leads to the aforementioned questions. White people men and woman were pulled from their cars and beaten in Milwaukee. That plays right in to the hands of the far right. BLM are in the same conversation as the (current) KKK for me.
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In the bush 15 Aug 16 1.29pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Sounds like a justified shooting to me. Pointing a gun at anyone, is grounds for self defence anywhere in the world.

Shame its come to this.

Yes, but this shows my point about BLM (and the media to some extent) they called it murder, they couldn't care less if it was justifiable or not. The lads dad said "whites" are killing us, he had no idea it was a black police officer. It's the language of hate, it's not the currency that's needed right now.
You then ask yourself why, why don't they care for facts? And you start to wonder if it's a power grab... Are they using it for self interest? Are they trying to incite racial hatred? Are they trying to deflect from the real problems? None of us can say for sure... But BLM being so evil and s*** stirring leads to the aforementioned questions.

White people men and woman were pulled from their cars and beaten in Milwaukee. That plays right in to the hands of the far right.

BLM are in the same conversation as the (current) KKK for me.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Aug 16 1.56pm
Originally posted by 7mins Yes, but this shows my point about BLM (and the media to some extent) they called it murder, they couldn't care less if it was justifiable or not. The lads dad said "whites" are killing us, he had no idea it was a black police officer. It's the language of hate, it's not the currency that's needed right now. You then ask yourself why, why don't they care for facts? And you start to wonder if it's a power grab... Are they using it for self interest? Are they trying to incite racial hatred? Are they trying to deflect from the real problems? None of us can say for sure... But BLM being so evil and s* stirring leads to the aforementioned questions. White people men and woman were pulled from their cars and beaten in Milwaukee. That plays right in to the hands of the far right. BLM are in the same conversation as the (current) KKK for me. Because America and American politics has for well over a decade hated facts. Its all about emotion and feeling. I'd stay clear of hyperbole such as comparing the Klan to BLM. That kind of hyperbole is Godwin's Law of argument (and lets not forget that the Klan exists today because of what it did in the past, and what its members still do and support). Acting on racism is never justified. Its the cycle of absurdity playing out, in which the stupid and the ignorant are pandered to. No number of wrongs make a right like attacking people indiscriminately. I get why people might target the police. But random white people, is just the same ignorant hate st you're supposed to be against. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 15 Aug 16 1.56pm

Originally posted by 7mins

White people men and woman were pulled from their cars and beaten in Milwaukee. That plays right in to the hands of the far right.

BLM are in the same conversation as the (current) KKK for me.

Because America and American politics has for well over a decade hated facts. Its all about emotion and feeling.

I'd stay clear of hyperbole such as comparing the Klan to BLM. That kind of hyperbole is Godwin's Law of argument (and lets not forget that the Klan exists today because of what it did in the past, and what its members still do and support).

Acting on racism is never justified. Its the cycle of absurdity playing out, in which the stupid and the ignorant are pandered to. No number of wrongs make a right like attacking people indiscriminately. I get why people might target the police. But random white people, is just the same ignorant hate s**t you're supposed to be against.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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