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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 20 Jun 16 2.29pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Despite what people think of me, that I'm this, that, the other... My purpose of writing or copy pasting on here is purely to try and awaken people to alternate media sources and rather than just rely on mainstream media outlets.
The BBC is supposed to be impartial, but clearly they have a strong biased, prob due to government funding as does ch4. I'm unable to watch Sky news anymore as the prejudice is now just comical.
Lots going on in the world today, and no one likes to be ripped off, but I'm afraid if you just take what the mainstream say without looking into the story deeper yourself you are effectively playing into the system and ripping yourself off!.

Investigative journalists such as Donald McIntyre get under the skin of their story whereas news journalist regurgitates news wires that all stem from one or two sources. No one fact checks anymore. News feeds come into television stations via Reuters or AP feeds, accompanying the video are news wires that the channel subscribes to. Using the wires and the feed journalist sit either in the edit suit with a producer and editor to turn the story around quickly. They are NOT on the ground at the scene investigating like murder she wrote Jessica Fletcher. Yes reporters are sent to the scene but this is generally for live links or piece to cameras.
Alternative news such as Vice do go out and investigate without an agenda but tend to be very slow at getting the facts back as they small fry journos and unable to pay for exclusive footage like the large news organisations.

I would rather take the basics from mainstream, read up articles from the likes of Jullian Assage and Edward Snowden, Vice and so on then come to my own conclusion rather than be force feed bu11sh1t from BBC ITV CH4 SKY

I can't disagree that the standard of reporting over the past few years has deteriorated. Too much reliance on social media and (relatively) low paid copy writers creating click bait.

I also wouldn't disagree that all governments get up to various acts of skulduggery but I think "we" often give them too much credit for being cleverer than they really are.


 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 20 Jun 16 2.32pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Brainwashing techniques have been shown to have the ability to make people kill and then not remember why they did it. I am not saying this is the case here but other assassinations in the past have had the hallmarks of possible brainwashing.
My position would be to rule nothing out.

I suppose there is the type of person who always dismisses conspiracy theory out of had and those who believe them all. I would just look at the facts as they are presented and keep an open mind.

Do we believe that David Kelly conveniently committed suicide? Or that the rather troublesome Princess Diana was in an unlucky accident?
The list of coincidences is rather long.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Jun 2016 1.13pm)

David Kelly is suspicious as f**k. But the man also was under a lot of pressure, and probably being squeezed by a lot of people and facing losing his career. So suicide shouldn't be ruled out, but the timing makes it very suspect as does the convenience. If I was conspiring to murder someone publically, and get away with it, then that's definitely the way to go. Faked or controlled suicide.

Princess Diana died in a car crash. How troublesome was Diana, not really all that much. Its a very ineffective way to kill someone, unless you can manufacture something like driving off a cliff etc. You have too many variables - The Driver, Speed, Impact and witnesses, and then of course you have to not only sabotage the car, but also ensure that the sabotage is not discovered. And even then, if you can get the car into a high speed crash, you still don't ensure death.

Of course, you also have to remember that people die in car accidents every day. Occasionally this includes celebrities and famous people. Being a royal or celebrity doesn't make you immune to fatal car accidents. They're ordinary people subject to the same reality. The probability of a celebrity being in a car crash fatality isn't that much different I suspect than an ordinary persons. Just less common. In fact its quite possibly more likely, given the proliferation of sports cars among the rich and famous.

 


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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 20 Jun 16 2.34pm

As for Britain First, I cannot bear anything to do with this scummy organisation, and it's people or ANYTHING they stand for. Their people are utter racist scum that in my view do not even deserve a position on this planet.
I'm skeptical, however that this Thomas mair has links to Britain first as the eyewitnesses have since come forward to deny hearing these words being shouted out. Notice interesting though how you only here these denials on YouTube and NOT anywhere in the mainstream media?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Jun 16 2.44pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

David Kelly is suspicious as f**k. But the man also was under a lot of pressure, and probably being squeezed by a lot of people and facing losing his career. So suicide shouldn't be ruled out, but the timing makes it very suspect as does the convenience. If I was conspiring to murder someone publically, and get away with it, then that's definitely the way to go. Faked or controlled suicide.

Princess Diana died in a car crash. How troublesome was Diana, not really all that much. Its a very ineffective way to kill someone, unless you can manufacture something like driving off a cliff etc. You have too many variables - The Driver, Speed, Impact and witnesses, and then of course you have to not only sabotage the car, but also ensure that the sabotage is not discovered. And even then, if you can get the car into a high speed crash, you still don't ensure death.

Of course, you also have to remember that people die in car accidents every day. Occasionally this includes celebrities and famous people. Being a royal or celebrity doesn't make you immune to fatal car accidents. They're ordinary people subject to the same reality. The probability of a celebrity being in a car crash fatality isn't that much different I suspect than an ordinary persons. Just less common. In fact its quite possibly more likely, given the proliferation of sports cars among the rich and famous.

I agree. The nature of the Diana death makes one ask why a would be assassin would choose such a method.
That said, one would one could note the apparently strange blood results from the driver, the odd death of a man said to be at the scene. The inability to trace other people apparently at the scene or the descriptions of a bright stunning flash by some witnesses.
I'm not convinced either way on Diana but she would have been a big embarrassment if she had married Dodo Al fayed.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 20 Jun 16 3.21pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Nigel Farage: "What we are seeing here is the Prime Minister and the Remain Camp trying to conflate the actions of one crazed individual with the motives of half of Britain who think we should get back control of our borders and do it sensibly."

Made me chuckle.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Jun 16 3.55pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Nigel Farage: "What we are seeing here is the Prime Minister and the Remain Camp trying to conflate the actions of one crazed individual with the motives of half of Britain who think we should get back control of our borders and do it sensibly."

Made me chuckle.

Is he wrong?

 

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Rubin Flag 20 Jun 16 5.22pm Send a Private Message to Rubin Add Rubin as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I agree. The nature of the Diana death makes one ask why a would be assassin would choose such a method.
That said, one would one could note the apparently strange blood results from the driver, the odd death of a man said to be at the scene. The inability to trace other people apparently at the scene or the descriptions of a bright stunning flash by some witnesses.
I'm not convinced either way on Diana but she would have been a big embarrassment if she had married Dodo Al fayed.

Keith Allen's film 'Unlawful Killing' is worth watching if you haven't already seen it.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 20 Jun 16 5.37pm

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Despite what people think of me, that I'm this, that, the other... My purpose of writing or copy pasting on here is purely to try and awaken people to alternate media sources and rather than just rely on mainstream media outlets.
The BBC is supposed to be impartial, but clearly they have a strong biased, prob due to government funding as does ch4. I'm unable to watch Sky news anymore as the prejudice is now just comical.
Lots going on in the world today, and no one likes to be ripped off, but I'm afraid if you just take what the mainstream say without looking into the story deeper yourself you are effectively playing into the system and ripping yourself off!.

Investigative journalists such as Donald McIntyre get under the skin of their story whereas news journalist regurgitates news wires that all stem from one or two sources. No one fact checks anymore. News feeds come into television stations via Reuters or AP feeds, accompanying the video are news wires that the channel subscribes to. Using the wires and the feed journalist sit either in the edit suit with a producer and editor to turn the story around quickly. They are NOT on the ground at the scene investigating like murder she wrote Jessica Fletcher. Yes reporters are sent to the scene but this is generally for live links or piece to cameras.
Alternative news such as Vice do go out and investigate without an agenda but tend to be very slow at getting the facts back as they small fry journos and unable to pay for exclusive footage like the large news organisations.

I would rather take the basics from mainstream, read up articles from the likes of Jullian Assage and Edward Snowden, Vice and so on then come to my own conclusion rather than be force feed bu11sh1t from BBC ITV CH4 SKY

Agree, which is why the internet is both brilliant and s***e at the same time for putting alternative angles on stories.
Thing is, because it's not mainstream it's easily dismissed as lefty bum gravy drivel or right wing swivel eyed nonsense.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 20 Jun 16 5.39pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Is he wrong?

Yes, and with the same viewpoint so are you. IMHO

Edited by nickgusset (20 Jun 2016 5.42pm)

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Jun 16 6.09pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Rubin

Keith Allen's film 'Unlawful Killing' is worth watching if you haven't already seen it.

Thanks. I will check it out.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Jun 16 6.10pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Yes, and with the same viewpoint so are you. IMHO

Edited by nickgusset (20 Jun 2016 5.42pm)

Why?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 20 Jun 16 6.24pm

Because it is plainly ridiculous. Farage is trying to deflect the fallout from using a crass poster. (Even those at the top of the leave campaign have said it was borderline racist.)
Do you really think Cameron and co have even alluded that the actions of an idiot deranged far right nutjob (Mair, not Farage) reflect the attitudes of half the country? Come on Mr The Ganjer that's just plain rubbish.

 

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