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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 20 Jun 16 2.29pm | |
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood
Despite what people think of me, that I'm this, that, the other... My purpose of writing or copy pasting on here is purely to try and awaken people to alternate media sources and rather than just rely on mainstream media outlets. Investigative journalists such as Donald McIntyre get under the skin of their story whereas news journalist regurgitates news wires that all stem from one or two sources. No one fact checks anymore. News feeds come into television stations via Reuters or AP feeds, accompanying the video are news wires that the channel subscribes to. Using the wires and the feed journalist sit either in the edit suit with a producer and editor to turn the story around quickly. They are NOT on the ground at the scene investigating like murder she wrote Jessica Fletcher. Yes reporters are sent to the scene but this is generally for live links or piece to cameras. I would rather take the basics from mainstream, read up articles from the likes of Jullian Assage and Edward Snowden, Vice and so on then come to my own conclusion rather than be force feed bu11sh1t from BBC ITV CH4 SKY I can't disagree that the standard of reporting over the past few years has deteriorated. Too much reliance on social media and (relatively) low paid copy writers creating click bait. I also wouldn't disagree that all governments get up to various acts of skulduggery but I think "we" often give them too much credit for being cleverer than they really are.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Jun 16 2.32pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Brainwashing techniques have been shown to have the ability to make people kill and then not remember why they did it. I am not saying this is the case here but other assassinations in the past have had the hallmarks of possible brainwashing. I suppose there is the type of person who always dismisses conspiracy theory out of had and those who believe them all. I would just look at the facts as they are presented and keep an open mind. Do we believe that David Kelly conveniently committed suicide? Or that the rather troublesome Princess Diana was in an unlucky accident? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Jun 2016 1.13pm) David Kelly is suspicious as f**k. But the man also was under a lot of pressure, and probably being squeezed by a lot of people and facing losing his career. So suicide shouldn't be ruled out, but the timing makes it very suspect as does the convenience. If I was conspiring to murder someone publically, and get away with it, then that's definitely the way to go. Faked or controlled suicide. Princess Diana died in a car crash. How troublesome was Diana, not really all that much. Its a very ineffective way to kill someone, unless you can manufacture something like driving off a cliff etc. You have too many variables - The Driver, Speed, Impact and witnesses, and then of course you have to not only sabotage the car, but also ensure that the sabotage is not discovered. And even then, if you can get the car into a high speed crash, you still don't ensure death. Of course, you also have to remember that people die in car accidents every day. Occasionally this includes celebrities and famous people. Being a royal or celebrity doesn't make you immune to fatal car accidents. They're ordinary people subject to the same reality. The probability of a celebrity being in a car crash fatality isn't that much different I suspect than an ordinary persons. Just less common. In fact its quite possibly more likely, given the proliferation of sports cars among the rich and famous.
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DivingIsNotGood se25 20 Jun 16 2.34pm | |
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As for Britain First, I cannot bear anything to do with this scummy organisation, and it's people or ANYTHING they stand for. Their people are utter racist scum that in my view do not even deserve a position on this planet.
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Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jun 16 2.44pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
David Kelly is suspicious as f**k. But the man also was under a lot of pressure, and probably being squeezed by a lot of people and facing losing his career. So suicide shouldn't be ruled out, but the timing makes it very suspect as does the convenience. If I was conspiring to murder someone publically, and get away with it, then that's definitely the way to go. Faked or controlled suicide. Princess Diana died in a car crash. How troublesome was Diana, not really all that much. Its a very ineffective way to kill someone, unless you can manufacture something like driving off a cliff etc. You have too many variables - The Driver, Speed, Impact and witnesses, and then of course you have to not only sabotage the car, but also ensure that the sabotage is not discovered. And even then, if you can get the car into a high speed crash, you still don't ensure death. Of course, you also have to remember that people die in car accidents every day. Occasionally this includes celebrities and famous people. Being a royal or celebrity doesn't make you immune to fatal car accidents. They're ordinary people subject to the same reality. The probability of a celebrity being in a car crash fatality isn't that much different I suspect than an ordinary persons. Just less common. In fact its quite possibly more likely, given the proliferation of sports cars among the rich and famous. I agree. The nature of the Diana death makes one ask why a would be assassin would choose such a method.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 20 Jun 16 3.21pm | |
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Nigel Farage: "What we are seeing here is the Prime Minister and the Remain Camp trying to conflate the actions of one crazed individual with the motives of half of Britain who think we should get back control of our borders and do it sensibly." Made me chuckle.
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Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jun 16 3.55pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Nigel Farage: "What we are seeing here is the Prime Minister and the Remain Camp trying to conflate the actions of one crazed individual with the motives of half of Britain who think we should get back control of our borders and do it sensibly." Made me chuckle. Is he wrong?
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Rubin 20 Jun 16 5.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I agree. The nature of the Diana death makes one ask why a would be assassin would choose such a method. Keith Allen's film 'Unlawful Killing' is worth watching if you haven't already seen it.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Jun 16 5.37pm | |
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood
Despite what people think of me, that I'm this, that, the other... My purpose of writing or copy pasting on here is purely to try and awaken people to alternate media sources and rather than just rely on mainstream media outlets. Investigative journalists such as Donald McIntyre get under the skin of their story whereas news journalist regurgitates news wires that all stem from one or two sources. No one fact checks anymore. News feeds come into television stations via Reuters or AP feeds, accompanying the video are news wires that the channel subscribes to. Using the wires and the feed journalist sit either in the edit suit with a producer and editor to turn the story around quickly. They are NOT on the ground at the scene investigating like murder she wrote Jessica Fletcher. Yes reporters are sent to the scene but this is generally for live links or piece to cameras. I would rather take the basics from mainstream, read up articles from the likes of Jullian Assage and Edward Snowden, Vice and so on then come to my own conclusion rather than be force feed bu11sh1t from BBC ITV CH4 SKY Agree, which is why the internet is both brilliant and s***e at the same time for putting alternative angles on stories.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Jun 16 5.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Is he wrong? Yes, and with the same viewpoint so are you. IMHO Edited by nickgusset (20 Jun 2016 5.42pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jun 16 6.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Rubin
Keith Allen's film 'Unlawful Killing' is worth watching if you haven't already seen it. Thanks. I will check it out.
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Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jun 16 6.10pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Yes, and with the same viewpoint so are you. IMHO Edited by nickgusset (20 Jun 2016 5.42pm) Why?
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Jun 16 6.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Why? Because it is plainly ridiculous. Farage is trying to deflect the fallout from using a crass poster. (Even those at the top of the leave campaign have said it was borderline racist.)
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