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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 10 Mar 21 10.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Sthlondonuk
The secret of Fulham's success is very few injuries every season we seem to pick up a large number at the same time. Lots of posts over the years about why and in summary it seems to be having an ageing squad, Roy's reluctance to rotate the players , late or non existent substitutions and a ridiculous number of training ground injuries. If we can bring in a few younger and less injury prone players we might be able to be more ambitious and stop flirting with relegation every year
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Sthlondonuk STH NORWOOD 10 Mar 21 10.15pm | |
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My point being we are always looking over our shoulder with a chance of relegation but with a less injury prone squad we could be looking to aspire to a European place even if we don't get there at the end of the season
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gurru991 Edmonton, Canada 11 Mar 21 2.27am | |
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Most clubs have suffered an unusual amount of injuries this season. Having good enough players to be able to rotate Is probably key. Unfortunately most clubs don't have this option.
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silvertop Portishead 11 Mar 21 11.51am | |
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Originally posted by gurru991
Most clubs have suffered an unusual amount of injuries this season. Having good enough players to be able to rotate Is probably key. Unfortunately most clubs don't have this option. Keeping a key eye on the injury league, I don't think you are correct. Liverpool have attracted the publicity because of who they are. However, their injuries have tended to have witnesses as they were incurred in front of millions of worldwide viewers in a live match. The only club to have remained consistently above them in the table are us. However, frustrating for the fans, few of the injuries were witnessed as they all tend to be training ground stuff. And they all take an age to recover. The other teams have had the odd spike, but usually they are within a reasonable range of 4/5 absentees. Newcastle are currently in such a spike, but no worse than the issues we have endured since before Christmas. Much has been said about the age of the squad and the longer recovery time. However, while undoubtedly a factor, I did say I am a keen observer of this league. This problem has been going on for years, including back when we had a much younger squad and when were were under different coaching managements. We can upgrade the academy and refresh the squad and management as much as we like. However, we are still substantially prejudiced if we are playing opponents who have only 2/3 players in the physio room when our sick-notes are consistently in double-figures. It is a critical area that needs work. Get is done and I am confident we will be a genuine 2nd tier premiership team that is able to pursue cup runs and still finish top half every season but without breaking the bank.
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Eaglehamster Storrington 11 Mar 21 12.28pm | |
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After Saturday's match Palace won't play again for another 3 weeks. I hope that's sufficient time for many recoveries. Time also, perhaps, to recharge and be ready for a tough final 9 games. We should be safe but remember last season's run in.
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JRW2 Dulwich 11 Mar 21 2.54pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Keeping a key eye on the injury league, I don't think you are correct. Liverpool have attracted the publicity because of who they are. However, their injuries have tended to have witnesses as they were incurred in front of millions of worldwide viewers in a live match. The only club to have remained consistently above them in the table are us. However, frustrating for the fans, few of the injuries were witnessed as they all tend to be training ground stuff. And they all take an age to recover. The other teams have had the odd spike, but usually they are within a reasonable range of 4/5 absentees. Newcastle are currently in such a spike, but no worse than the issues we have endured since before Christmas. Much has been said about the age of the squad and the longer recovery time. However, while undoubtedly a factor, I did say I am a keen observer of this league. This problem has been going on for years, including back when we had a much younger squad and when were were under different coaching managements. We can upgrade the academy and refresh the squad and management as much as we like. However, we are still substantially prejudiced if we are playing opponents who have only 2/3 players in the physio room when our sick-notes are consistently in double-figures. It is a critical area that needs work. Get is done and I am confident we will be a genuine 2nd tier premiership team that is able to pursue cup runs and still finish top half every season but without breaking the bank. I was interested in your post, but in the end a tad disappointed because I had assumed that you were going to suggest some "silver bullet" that would solve our chronic injury problem. But you rightly dismiss the two reasons normally put forward. First, age of players can't have much to do with it because it's happened when we had a young squad. And second, it's unlikely to do with our training methods because it's happened under different training regimes. So, yes, it's an area that needs work, but what does that mean in practice? Perhaps a big change of luck.
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Sthlondonuk STH NORWOOD 11 Mar 21 4.10pm | |
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Maybe not signing injured players or extending contracts of players who have a terrible injury record might help
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Mar 21 4.21pm | |
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Originally posted by JRW2
I was interested in your post, but in the end a tad disappointed because I had assumed that you were going to suggest some "silver bullet" that would solve our chronic injury problem. But you rightly dismiss the two reasons normally put forward. First, age of players can't have much to do with it because it's happened when we had a young squad. And second, it's unlikely to do with our training methods because it's happened under different training regimes. So, yes, it's an area that needs work, but what does that mean in practice? Perhaps a big change of luck. Are our facilities as good as other sides? I've always suspected that they're not, but I do know we had more expensive stuff installed over the last few years. Like an oxygen chamber etc.
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JRW2 Dulwich 11 Mar 21 4.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Sthlondonuk
Maybe not signing injured players or extending contracts of players who have a terrible injury record might help Good point, but not relevant concerning Clyne, Tomkins, Zaha, Schlupp, McCarthur, Cahill, Macarthy. (I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong on any of those.)
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silvertop Portishead 11 Mar 21 5.23pm | |
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Originally posted by JRW2
I was interested in your post, but in the end a tad disappointed because I had assumed that you were going to suggest some "silver bullet" that would solve our chronic injury problem. But you rightly dismiss the two reasons normally put forward. First, age of players can't have much to do with it because it's happened when we had a young squad. And second, it's unlikely to do with our training methods because it's happened under different training regimes. So, yes, it's an area that needs work, but what does that mean in practice? Perhaps a big change of luck. Yeah sorry about that! It cant be luck as we cant have the worst luck all the time. We have access to all the medical specialists London can offer so it cant be that. Unless there is something weird in the south London air or water it can only be our own in house medical team and/or facilities. Perhaps that is where we lag behind our competitors? If so, an obvious area for serious investment.
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silvertop Portishead 11 Mar 21 5.25pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Are our facilities as good as other sides? I've always suspected that they're not, but I do know we had more expensive stuff installed over the last few years. Like an oxygen chamber etc. Ah just posted without seeing this where we appear to be saying the same.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Mar 21 5.31pm | |
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Originally posted by JRW2
Good point, but not relevant concerning Clyne, Tomkins, Zaha, Schlupp, McCarthur, Cahill, Macarthy. (I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong on any of those.) Clyne, and McCarthy certainly had long term injuries, and are still having issues. Cahill had a couple that limited his career somewhat too. Tomkins I'm not sure how much injury he had at West Ham but it was a bit. Zaha has had injuries but probably not the worst. McArthur seems to be injured a lot over last couple of season's but was a bit of a stalwart before that.
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