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Southern Rail Strike - right or wrong
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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 12 Dec 16 11.04pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
If this strike had any justification the RMT and ASLEF members would have a picket line at the Selhurst Depot on Wednesday evening. They've exploited hard working people for far too long. They are massively overpaid, and act like a mafia cartel. This current run of strikes is purely down to the fact they know that technology will soon be introduced to make them all redundant. Opinion not fact surely.
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 7mins In the bush 13 Dec 16 12.45am |
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Driverless trains are decades away. He is just angry.
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| matt_himself Matataland 13 Dec 16 5.23am |
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I am on the 468 now. Thank you to all whom made this possible. You are a credit to Britain.
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| Helmet46 Croydon 13 Dec 16 6.43am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Opinion not fact surely.
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| Stuk Top half 13 Dec 16 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Opinion not fact surely. Not the second part of that statement. Almost all jobs like that will soon be redundant and many, many more.
Optimistic as ever |
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| paperhat croydon 13 Dec 16 1.35pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
If this strike had any justification the RMT and ASLEF members would have a picket line at the Selhurst Depot on Wednesday evening. They've exploited hard working people for far too long. They are massively overpaid, and act like a mafia cartel. This current run of strikes is purely down to the fact they know that technology will soon be introduced to make them all redundant. ...and i can just imagine the carnage pre and post match with a few thousand disgruntled fans having a pop, not too interested in their 'plight', more annoyed about their travelling being screwed up. It would actually be hilarious to watch. A bit like the last Midweek match vs brighton where the streets were cordoned off....
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 Hrolf The Ganger 13 Dec 16 1.40pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Opinion not fact surely. The train company is entitled to introduce any new technology it pleases. There are many services that operate driver only trains already and many of the proposed new driver operated door trains will still have guards. The whole thing is political and a long term strategy by the unions to resist change. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (13 Dec 2016 1.41pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 Dec 16 1.53pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Not the second part of that statement. Almost all jobs like that will soon be redundant and many, many more. If this is to be the case, what are the government planning to do with all the people for whom technology has made their jobs redundant. Will they be referred to as workshy and feckless?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Dec 16 2.01pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
If this is to be the case, what are the government planning to do with all the people for whom technology has made their jobs redundant. Will they be referred to as workshy and feckless? It is an issue but right now we have almost full employment. There is a King Kanute feeling about this.
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| npn Crowborough 13 Dec 16 2.10pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
If this is to be the case, what are the government planning to do with all the people for whom technology has made their jobs redundant. Will they be referred to as workshy and feckless? Likewise, what are the RMT and ASLEF (and Southern Rail) planning to do about all the people who lose their jobs through not being able to get to work? I'm sure it's already happened and will continue and increase as time goes on
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| Stuk Top half 13 Dec 16 3.08pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
If this is to be the case, what are the government planning to do with all the people for whom technology has made their jobs redundant. Will they be referred to as workshy and feckless? They'll have to learn new skills that are required and change jobs. Automation will take existing roles, but it will create new ones around it.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 13 Dec 16 3.18pm |
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Interestingly on the beeb they say: The response apparently is: "We have a trade dispute with GTR Southern, and only a poor government would seek to spin it any other way. "We were willing to go to ACAS last week but GTR Southern refused because they wanted to go to court. No Denial of the 10 year of strikes that I can see
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