I've long since realised that you can't argue with some of these people: It isn't about reason for them.

Now I only engage with the ones who have more brain cells than fingers.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

This with bells on. Pleased this thread has highlighted that hol is full of decent folk and only the small minority are right-wing d**ks obsessed with racism. Seems the vast majority of us just want to get on with our lives.

laddo

"People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist".
David Brent.

News is news. Unless your papers don’t like it. I just heard about the incident, googled it and quelle surprise, no left wing media wanted to bring it to the attention of the public.

COYP

No, it was just retarded. Shows his level of intellectual argument.

This is the kind of wrong thinking which seems at the heart of this problem.

Churchill was a great man. Flawed in many ways but a man of his time without whom the UK, and the world would probably be a different place today. No doubt there is much wisdom in his books.

That though is beside the point. There is wisdom in the Bible and the Quran too but if you select passages from any of them and then read them with a particular emphasis, in a place and style to an audience with known views the words could well be considered inflammatory or even hate speech.

Context is everything. It's the words that matter and not who wrote them. Muslim preachers have been arrested after quoting from the Quran. There are passages from the Old Testament that taken out of context can be used against people. Look at the Westboro Baptist Church!

So nothing can be taken at face value. The whole needs to be known. We don't know the whole circumstances, we only know the bits we are being fed to support a narrative. The responsible media do try to get behind a story and verify it's authenticity but the sensationalist media, and those with axes to grind on social media, don't.

So just because a story is circulated that supports an idea that your political group is being denied free speech doesn't make it so. All it does is point up the level of fake and unreliable information that is around and the need to look for reliable, verified sources.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

What actually is right wing though?
If I am worried why some areas of Britain Are not intergrating is that right wing?

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"Being a Muslim today is as much a cultural identity as an actual religious one for young individuals like myself. It’s a sign of being different within the West,"

If I'm worried why the establishment covered up for such a long time that we had muslim grooming gangs, does that make me right wing?
I'm equally annoyed by the BBC and the hiding of the peodo Saville cases for balance.

I would genuinely be interested why Laddo and Pussy band around racism and right wing claims.

Can't white people be openly annoyed with Muslim Asian grooming gangs? Sikh communities are annoyed are they right wing?
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"The West Midlands girls are said to have been targeted by “fashionably-dressed adult pakistani men” before being isolated from their families and mistreated by one or more abusers."

Edited by dannyboy1978 (24 Feb 2019 10.15am)