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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 02 Jul 21 11.54pm
Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid To be honest the fact that you’re seeking information from a fans’ board isn’t really his problem is it ? I’m not seeking anything. I’m pointing out, like numerous others have, the never ending stream of definitive statements that have been absolutely and emphatically wrong. It was the same in the previous two transfer windows with the new signings that were ‘definitely done’ and set to be announced imminently but were in actual fact completel fantasy; Saïd Benrahma being just one example. Edited by Phil’s Barber (02 Jul 2021 11.54pm)
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Crowborough 02 Jul 21 11.54pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

To be honest the fact that you’re seeking information from a fans’ board isn’t really his problem is it ?

I’m not seeking anything. I’m pointing out, like numerous others have, the never ending stream of definitive statements that have been absolutely and emphatically wrong.

It was the same in the previous two transfer windows with the new signings that were ‘definitely done’ and set to be announced imminently but were in actual fact completel fantasy; Saïd Benrahma being just one example.

Edited by Phil’s Barber (02 Jul 2021 11.54pm)

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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 02 Jul 21 11.55pm
Originally posted by dazza Thank you, Not sure why some people on here get so abusive & feel the need to rant just don’t read the messages. Believe it or not it’s a fan’s forum to discuss things not give people abuse. There is enough crap going on in society without people bringing it on this site. The Irony!
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Crowborough 02 Jul 21 11.55pm

Originally posted by dazza

Thank you,

Not sure why some people on here get so abusive & feel the need to rant just don’t read the messages.

Believe it or not it’s a fan’s forum to discuss things not give people abuse.

There is enough crap going on in society without people bringing it on this site.

The Irony!

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manwitheagletattoo Somewhere in England 03 Jul 21 12.00am
This is a fans forum, everybody has their opinions, everybody has the right to say what they think and if they wish pass on information as in Dazza’s case he posts info, be it right or wrong he is just passing on what he hears he doesn’t have to be crucified because of information that was correct at the time, situations change. People like Dazza in my opinion make forums like this. We are all on here as fans, managers and owners. Keep supplying what you hear Dazza, I enjoy and look forward to your posts. South London & Proud Sometimes I really wonder if family are really worth it. Because it doesn’t matter how time and affection you give It’s never enough
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This is a fans forum, everybody has their opinions, everybody has the right to say what they think and if they wish pass on information as in Dazza’s case he posts info, be it right or wrong he is just passing on what he hears he doesn’t have to be crucified because of information that was correct at the time, situations change. People like Dazza in my opinion make forums like this. We are all on here as fans, managers and owners. Keep supplying what you hear Dazza, I enjoy and look forward to your posts.

South London & Proud
Sometimes I really wonder if family are really worth it.
Because it doesn’t matter how time and affection you give
It’s never enough

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HKOwen Hong Kong 03 Jul 21 12.02am
So you have no idea who has accepted the " offers ". This means the club's stance that no player's would be offered new contracts until a new manager in place was designed to mislead. Originally posted by dazza Do you know what you can keep giving me abuse I don’t care. I know for a fact that Vieira is our New Manager 3 year deal. I also know that the following players have been offered new deals: Townsend - 2 year deal Cahill - 1 year deal Ward - not sure of length of deal Henderson - potentially being offered new 1 year deal Schlupp, Benteke & Guieta - Already renewed Ones being released are as follows: McCarthy Sakho Wickham Hennessy Dann Clyne PVA I don’t care if you believe it or not I know this is the case. In regards to other stuff I don’t control what happens I just pass on what I know. For the record also I am not a loner, I have plenty of friends, run my business & also run a Children’s Football Club. I am not doing this for attention or to antagonise people I am a die hard Palace fan & just want to pass on what I get told. I apologise if it’s wrong information but at the time of sharing that is what I am told is happening. The above you will see. Announcement Sunday regards Vieira. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 03 Jul 21 12.02am

So you have no idea who has accepted the " offers ".

This means the club's stance that no player's would be offered new contracts until a new manager in place was designed to mislead.

Originally posted by dazza

Do you know what you can keep giving me abuse I don’t care.

I know for a fact that Vieira is our New Manager 3 year deal.

I also know that the following players have been offered new deals:

Townsend - 2 year deal
Cahill - 1 year deal
Ward - not sure of length of deal
Henderson - potentially being offered new 1 year deal
Schlupp, Benteke & Guieta - Already renewed

Ones being released are as follows:

McCarthy
Sakho
Wickham
Hennessy
Dann
Clyne
PVA

I don’t care if you believe it or not I know this is the case.

In regards to other stuff I don’t control what happens I just pass on what I know.

For the record also I am not a loner, I have plenty of friends, run my business & also run a Children’s Football Club.

I am not doing this for attention or to antagonise people I am a die hard Palace fan & just want to pass on what I get told.

I apologise if it’s wrong information but at the time of sharing that is what I am told is happening.

The above you will see.

Announcement Sunday regards Vieira.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Spiderman Horsham 03 Jul 21 6.15am
Originally posted by HKOwen So you have no idea who has accepted the " offers ". This means the club's stance that no player's would be offered new contracts until a new manager in place was designed to mislead. Unless the new manager is in place! If he is bringing these with him, having read up on some I think we may have exciting times ahead [Link] Edited by Spiderman (03 Jul 2021 6.48am)
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Originally posted by HKOwen

So you have no idea who has accepted the " offers ".

This means the club's stance that no player's would be offered new contracts until a new manager in place was designed to mislead.

Unless the new manager is in place!
If he is bringing these with him, having read up on some I think we may have exciting times ahead

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Edited by Spiderman (03 Jul 2021 6.48am)

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Painter Croydon 03 Jul 21 7.50am
Originally posted by Helmet46 I get your point but this is not a sense of entitlement. Football, as you know, is so entwined within the community that it’s not like a delayed takeover of the local grocers. We invest time, money, sweat and tears on our team and, in return, all we ask for is 100%, win, lose or draw. That applies to the running of the club also. I do understand that the fans are not as important in the EPL, with sponsorship and TV deals etc, but if they f*** this up - as I suspect they will - then we will be a lot more important in the lower divisions. I don’t harbour any expectations to hear company secrets, I don’t expect to receive their hit list nor hear about negotiations but I do believe that the club should attempt to calm us all down a bit with a comment to the effect that all is under control, player contracts are being dealt with, scouting continues etc. That we don’t get any of this makes it feel as though we are being taken for granted. I don’t consider this to be an unfair view - just a ‘don’t worry’ statement from the club. I maintain that I believe it disrespectful to the fans that the Club are seemingly unwilling to calm the herd. In my opinion I’d swing this around and suggest that it is the club that has a sense of entitlement to our unwavering support, regardless, and I don’t understand that. Edited by Helmet46 (02 Jul 2021 10.27pm) You seem to expect a weekly update of the going ons at the club. This isnt issued by any other club, why should Palace. It has been the close season, when players have been on their holidays, any issues would of been dealt with by Freeman. Regarding the manager situation, they dont want to announce officially who they are going after, as there are enough rumours in the media already, why add fuel to the fire. A new manager will be announced, when everything is signed and sealed, not before. The fact that the board have a huge financial investment in the club, gives a reassurance that they are doing their best to secure their investment by getting the best person for the job. Having disgruntled fans whos appartant self entitlement for all the detils, isnt top of their agenda.
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Croydon 03 Jul 21 7.50am

Originally posted by Helmet46

I get your point but this is not a sense of entitlement. Football, as you know, is so entwined within the community that it’s not like a delayed takeover of the local grocers. We invest time, money, sweat and tears on our team and, in return, all we ask for is 100%, win, lose or draw. That applies to the running of the club also. I do understand that the fans are not as important in the EPL, with sponsorship and TV deals etc, but if they f*** this up - as I suspect they will - then we will be a lot more important in the lower divisions.
I don’t harbour any expectations to hear company secrets, I don’t expect to receive their hit list nor hear about negotiations but I do believe that the club should attempt to calm us all down a bit with a comment to the effect that all is under control, player contracts are being dealt with, scouting continues etc. That we don’t get any of this makes it feel as though we are being taken for granted.
I don’t consider this to be an unfair view - just a ‘don’t worry’ statement from the club. I maintain that I believe it disrespectful to the fans that the Club are seemingly unwilling to calm the herd.
In my opinion I’d swing this around and suggest that it is the club that has a sense of entitlement to our unwavering support, regardless, and I don’t understand that.

Edited by Helmet46 (02 Jul 2021 10.27pm)

You seem to expect a weekly update of the going ons at the club. This isnt issued by any other club, why should Palace.
It has been the close season, when players have been on their holidays, any issues would of been dealt with by Freeman.
Regarding the manager situation, they dont want to announce officially who they are going after, as there are enough rumours in the media already, why add fuel to the fire.
A new manager will be announced, when everything is signed and sealed, not before. The fact that the board have a huge financial investment in the club, gives a reassurance that they are doing their best to secure their investment by getting the best person for the job. Having disgruntled fans whos appartant self entitlement for all the detils, isnt top of their agenda.

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HesHereHesThere Beckenham 03 Jul 21 8.04am
Originally posted by Painter You seem to expect a weekly update of the going ons at the club. This isnt issued by any other club, why should Palace. It has been the close season, when players have been on their holidays, any issues would of been dealt with by Freeman. Regarding the manager situation, they dont want to announce officially who they are going after, as there are enough rumours in the media already, why add fuel to the fire. A new manager will be announced, when everything is signed and sealed, not before. The fact that the board have a huge financial investment in the club, gives a reassurance that they are doing their best to secure their investment by getting the best person for the job. Having disgruntled fans whos appartant self entitlement for all the detils, isnt top of their agenda. who's this?
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Originally posted by Painter

You seem to expect a weekly update of the going ons at the club. This isnt issued by any other club, why should Palace.
It has been the close season, when players have been on their holidays, any issues would of been dealt with by Freeman.
Regarding the manager situation, they dont want to announce officially who they are going after, as there are enough rumours in the media already, why add fuel to the fire.
A new manager will be announced, when everything is signed and sealed, not before. The fact that the board have a huge financial investment in the club, gives a reassurance that they are doing their best to secure their investment by getting the best person for the job. Having disgruntled fans whos appartant self entitlement for all the detils, isnt top of their agenda.

who's this?

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Sir James Hird Mount Martha 03 Jul 21 8.04am
Interesting that Attilio Lombardo's name comes up. Originally posted by Spiderman Unless the new manager is in place! If he is bringing these with him, having read up on some I think we may have exciting times ahead [Link] Edited by Spiderman (03 Jul 2021 6.48am)
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Mount Martha 03 Jul 21 8.04am

Interesting that Attilio Lombardo's name comes up.

Originally posted by Spiderman

Unless the new manager is in place!
If he is bringing these with him, having read up on some I think we may have exciting times ahead

[Link]

Edited by Spiderman (03 Jul 2021 6.48am)

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Midlands Eagle 03 Jul 21 8.04am
Originally posted by Willo Brian Kidd will not be coming to our club. Oh dear. No-one bit
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Originally posted by Willo

Brian Kidd will not be coming to our club.

Oh dear. No-one bit

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MonsterMunch Cambridge 03 Jul 21 8.18am
It’s almost like someone has been scouring Twitter and passing it off as being ITK again.
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Cambridge 03 Jul 21 8.18am

It’s almost like someone has been scouring Twitter and passing it off as being ITK again.

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PatrickA London 03 Jul 21 8.26am
I have been a fan for over 50 years who happens to be one of those who questions what’s going on. Does that make me less of a fan or one those who feel ‘entitled.’ I don’t believe so. I just happen to feel uncomfortable with the current situation which to me seems to have been avoidable. As many others have pointed out , it’s been known for some time that Roy was going and that we had around ten players out of contract at the end of June. There does not appear to have been any succession plan in place . Townsend said on the radio around a month ago that the players had been advised of plans to make a managerial appointment in around 2 weeks and that those out of contract would be advised of plans once the new manager was appointed who could determine which players he wanted to retain. An appointment was not made and a few days later Benteke was offered and signed a new contract without any input from a new manager. Inconsistency. What happens if the new manager doesn’t rate Benteke? What is being asked if for a third choice management and coaching team to assemble a Premier competitive team from the remnants of last season’s ageing squad together with presumably 3 or 4 new signings together with perhaps a couple of loans. A bunch of strangers in the main unfamiliar with each other’s working methods required to be ready in a matter of weeks. I don’t see how how anybody can see this as some sort of master plan with a coherent strategy.
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London 03 Jul 21 8.26am

I have been a fan for over 50 years who happens to be one of those who questions what’s going on.
Does that make me less of a fan or one those who feel ‘entitled.’
I don’t believe so.
I just happen to feel uncomfortable with the current situation which to me seems to have been avoidable.
As many others have pointed out , it’s been known for some time that Roy was going and that we had around ten players out of contract at the end of June.
There does not appear to have been any succession plan in place .
Townsend said on the radio around a month ago that the players had been advised of plans to make a managerial appointment in around 2 weeks and that those out of contract would be advised of plans once the new manager was appointed who could determine which players he wanted to retain.
An appointment was not made and a few days later Benteke was offered and signed a new contract without any input from a new manager.
Inconsistency.
What happens if the new manager doesn’t rate Benteke?

What is being asked if for a third choice management and coaching team to assemble a Premier competitive team from the remnants of last season’s ageing squad together with presumably 3 or 4 new signings together with perhaps a couple of loans.
A bunch of strangers in the main unfamiliar with each other’s working methods required to be ready in a matter of weeks.
I don’t see how how anybody can see this as some sort of master plan with a coherent strategy.

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MonsterMunch Cambridge 03 Jul 21 8.29am
Originally posted by dazza Do you know what you can keep giving me abuse I don’t care. I know for a fact that Vieira is our New Manager 3 year deal. I also know that the following players have been offered new deals: Townsend - 2 year deal Cahill - 1 year deal Ward - not sure of length of deal Henderson - potentially being offered new 1 year deal Schlupp, Benteke & Guieta - Already renewed Ones being released are as follows: McCarthy Sakho Wickham Hennessy Dann Clyne PVA I don’t care if you believe it or not I know this is the case. In regards to other stuff I don’t control what happens I just pass on what I know. For the record also I am not a loner, I have plenty of friends, run my business & also run a Children’s Football Club. I am not doing this for attention or to antagonise people I am a die hard Palace fan & just want to pass on what I get told. I apologise if it’s wrong information but at the time of sharing that is what I am told is happening. The above you will see. Announcement Sunday regards Vieira. Maybe you’ve all got the same source? [Tweet Link] [Tweet Link] [Tweet Link] [Tweet Link] Edited by MonsterMunch (03 Jul 2021 8.39am)
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Originally posted by dazza

Do you know what you can keep giving me abuse I don’t care.

I know for a fact that Vieira is our New Manager 3 year deal.

I also know that the following players have been offered new deals:

Townsend - 2 year deal
Cahill - 1 year deal
Ward - not sure of length of deal
Henderson - potentially being offered new 1 year deal
Schlupp, Benteke & Guieta - Already renewed

Ones being released are as follows:

McCarthy
Sakho
Wickham
Hennessy
Dann
Clyne
PVA

I don’t care if you believe it or not I know this is the case.

In regards to other stuff I don’t control what happens I just pass on what I know.

For the record also I am not a loner, I have plenty of friends, run my business & also run a Children’s Football Club.

I am not doing this for attention or to antagonise people I am a die hard Palace fan & just want to pass on what I get told.

I apologise if it’s wrong information but at the time of sharing that is what I am told is happening.

The above you will see.

Announcement Sunday regards Vieira.

Maybe you’ve all got the same source?

[Tweet Link]

Edited by MonsterMunch (03 Jul 2021 8.39am)

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