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7mins Flag In the bush 03 Aug 16 1.08pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Actually, the story is a bit more complex, but the police pretty much seemed to do everything right in the Korryn Gaines case.

As a matter of fact, she fired on the police, and was shot in return, I don't think anyone by the most 'ideologically wedded person' would consider the event questionable. Of course there will always be those who will use any event to pursue an agenda, or simply don't trust the police at all.

But on the face of it, you couldn't really ask for a more justified shooting by the police, or better procedure (secure the area, isolate the suspect, negotiate and only resort to lethal force when the issue is pushed by the suspect).

BLM evil, I think that's just pure hyperbole. BLM doesn't seem to be a structured organisation, but a social media movement (I was trying to find their home page etc - and they don't seem to have an official statement).

Still, it should involve an independent enquiry, even when its seemingly obvious what happened.

BLM have condemned the shooting, on FOX radio they described this shooting as a "systematic attack on people of colour"

I have described BLM as a ideology, it's not a organisation, as you can't join. They are evil due to the chants (pigs in a blanket, and the dead cops one). Also the fact that they refuse to tackle the problem of black on black violence. If they changed their mission statement and name, i'd have a tiny bit more respect for them (but probably still think they're dickheads)

Edited by 7mins (03 Aug 2016 1.08pm)

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 03 Aug 16 6.33pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

BLM have condemned the shooting, on FOX radio they described this shooting as a "systematic attack on people of colour"

I have described BLM as a ideology, it's not a organisation, as you can't join. They are evil due to the chants (pigs in a blanket, and the dead cops one). Also the fact that they refuse to tackle the problem of black on black violence. If they changed their mission statement and name, i'd have a tiny bit more respect for them (but probably still think they're dickheads)

Edited by 7mins (03 Aug 2016 1.08pm)


But surely you understand that disapproving of BLM, and recognising there are serious issues with police brutality towards black citizens, are not mutually exclusive viewpoints?

I think disagreeing with BLM for the reasons you've highlighted throughout is a perfectly valid opinion. I think making out there is no problem with the way police treat black people in America, just because you don't like BLM, is not.

 

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7mins Flag In the bush 05 Aug 16 5.52pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow


But surely you understand that disapproving of BLM, and recognising there are serious issues with police brutality towards black citizens, are not mutually exclusive viewpoints?

I think disagreeing with BLM for the reasons you've highlighted throughout is a perfectly valid opinion. I think making out there is no problem with the way police treat black people in America, just because you don't like BLM, is not.

If there is a problem in America with police and blacks... The answer isn't to point at the police and say you have a problem when black people commit 25x more crime than any other race.
If you commit crime, you're more than likely cross paths with law enforcement, the more often you commit crime the more chance you have of meeting a copper that is a wrong un. Just imagine if white people committed 25x more crime than black people in Jamaica... They'd be riots.
I know loads of black people (family and friends) that are concerned about the amount of crime black people commit... It's only the regressive (mainly white) left that think it's not a problem.

I got punched by a copper in Tenerife for pissing on the beach at 2am, he called me over I ignored him and carried on pissing... He waited until I finished then punched me. I was 19, convinced I was punched because I was mixed race, told my dad expecting sympathy... He told me I was a arsehole, and he would buy that copper a beer.
I was a arsehole, and I'm certainly not gonna blame PC Pedro for hitting me. Play silly games win silly prizes.

 

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7mins Flag In the bush 05 Aug 16 5.53pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Still at least BLMUK have joined in.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 05 Aug 16 6.29pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

If there is a problem in America with police and blacks... The answer isn't to point at the police and say you have a problem when black people commit 25x more crime than any other race.
If you commit crime, you're more than likely cross paths with law enforcement, the more often you commit crime the more chance you have of meeting a copper that is a wrong un. Just imagine if white people committed 25x more crime than black people in Jamaica... They'd be riots.
I know loads of black people (family and friends) that are concerned about the amount of crime black people commit... It's only the regressive (mainly white) left that think it's not a problem.

I got punched by a copper in Tenerife for pissing on the beach at 2am, he called me over I ignored him and carried on pissing... He waited until I finished then punched me. I was 19, convinced I was punched because I was mixed race, told my dad expecting sympathy... He told me I was a arsehole, and he would buy that copper a beer.
I was a arsehole, and I'm certainly not gonna blame PC Pedro for hitting me. Play silly games win silly prizes.

And I haven't once argued that there is no problem with criminality in the black community - but again, the two aren't mutually exclusive viewpoints.

Both parties (police and citizens) share blame - highlighting one doesn't disprove the other.

You seem to think it's fine for police to do what they want with someone if they break the law - that's a very worrying mindset imo.

 

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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 05 Aug 16 8.00pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

So in the Freddie Gray case... the cops weren't lying, and the case against them was very weak, also the prosecutor has been heavily criticised by all quarters.

I'm unaware of the other cases you mention, all seems a bit ambiguous


Circling back to this (as I haven't had time before), here's a digest of some of the more prominent cases of questionable killings by police, with more than a few exhibits of false reporting by the officers involved.
[Link]

 


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7mins Flag In the bush 05 Aug 16 8.15pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

And I haven't once argued that there is no problem with criminality in the black community - but again, the two aren't mutually exclusive viewpoints.

Both parties (police and citizens) share blame - highlighting one doesn't disprove the other.

You seem to think it's fine for police to do what they want with someone if they break the law - that's a very worrying mindset imo.

Can you show me where I have said that last sentence?

 

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7mins Flag In the bush 05 Aug 16 8.16pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston


Circling back to this (as I haven't had time before), here's a digest of some of the more prominent cases of questionable killings by police, with more than a few exhibits of false reporting by the officers involved.
[Link]

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Edited by 7mins (05 Aug 2016 8.19pm)

 

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7mins Flag In the bush 05 Aug 16 8.20pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston


Circling back to this (as I haven't had time before), here's a digest of some of the more prominent cases of questionable killings by police, with more than a few exhibits of false reporting by the officers involved.
[Link]

Freddie gray killed himself, who knew?

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Aug 16 4.11pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

Freddie gray killed himself, who knew?

He beat himself up so badly he died. Nothing suspicious there - it nearly happened in Fight club.

 


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dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 06 Aug 16 6.01pm Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

If there is a problem in America with police and blacks... The answer isn't to point at the police and say you have a problem when black people commit 25x more crime than any other race.
If you commit crime, you're more than likely cross paths with law enforcement, the more often you commit crime the more chance you have of meeting a copper that is a wrong un. Just imagine if white people committed 25x more crime than black people in Jamaica... They'd be riots.
I know loads of black people (family and friends) that are concerned about the amount of crime black people commit... It's only the regressive (mainly white) left that think it's not a problem.

I got punched by a copper in Tenerife for pissing on the beach at 2am, he called me over I ignored him and carried on pissing... He waited until I finished then punched me. I was 19, convinced I was punched because I was mixed race, told my dad expecting sympathy... He told me I was a arsehole, and he would buy that copper a beer.
I was a arsehole, and I'm certainly not gonna blame PC Pedro for hitting me. Play silly games win silly prizes.

f*** me an out burst of common sense. get your tin hat on fella your going to come in for some unadulterated liberal apologistic bulls***.

I though, applaud your viewpoint as it is the only that makes sense.

Great stuff !!

 


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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 06 Aug 16 7.02pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

If there is a problem in America with police and blacks... The answer isn't to point at the police and say you have a problem when black people commit 25x more crime than any other race.
If you commit crime, you're more than likely cross paths with law enforcement, the more often you commit crime the more chance you have of meeting a copper that is a wrong un. Just imagine if white people committed 25x more crime than black people in Jamaica... They'd be riots.
I know loads of black people (family and friends) that are concerned about the amount of crime black people commit... It's only the regressive (mainly white) left that think it's not a problem.

I got punched by a copper in Tenerife for pissing on the beach at 2am, he called me over I ignored him and carried on pissing... He waited until I finished then punched me. I was 19, convinced I was punched because I was mixed race, told my dad expecting sympathy... He told me I was a arsehole, and he would buy that copper a beer.
I was a arsehole, and I'm certainly not gonna blame PC Pedro for hitting me. Play silly games win silly prizes.

Hence the reason yankee prisons are topped up with mainly non whites. It is an eye opener to see inside some of these nicks I can tell you, you only have to watch the programs about them like Trevor Mcdonalds series he made. Death row is full of non whites ...WHY??????????

 


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