What I find laughable is we have the left on the one hand telling us the NHS is on its knees, Schools are failing, prisons are full, a massive lack of housing, and yet .....

And yet on the other hand they want more people to come in to the country to add to what is already (according to them) a failing system.

And the whole "its the governments fault for not investing " is a mute point, the situation is what it is. Arguing over how we got to this situation is as effective as a one legged man in an arse kicking competition.

But wanting to add to it is positively mental.

Don't forget that every family that arrives contains a teacher, a medical worker, a carer and they all pay tax even before they've got jobs. And the kids got straight As when they were 6, before they arrived and are only going to school due to the oppresive British rules on attending school.

Oh I forgot the builder in the family that builds them their own house before they arrive too.

No, s*** posts that you claim were printed in a paper.

Nope, that was sarcastic, the star being part of the express group.

I often wonder what the pro immigration crowd would say if you removed the alleged financial benefit element from the scenario and just focused on migrant numbers.

At what point would they say that we had taken in enough ?
I also wonder if they would feel that it is our duty to take any refugees from any country regardless of the cost to our own society.

As I see it, they have a head in the sand attitude to all of this. Often in life, what seems fair and what is reasonable are two different things. It seems moral to allow refugees to Britain and also economic migrants to a lesser extent perhaps, but any reasonable person must see that uncontrolled numbers entering Britain will create a major problem in the future. With global population increasing, there will be an almost infinite stream of people migrating to Europe. This has to be controlled and soon. Anyone who doubts that is insane. The plight of people escaping war torn regions is distressing but we must have our rational heads on here. Asia and Africa's population will swell rapidly in the coming years. Are we to allow their overcrowding problems to become ours ? Shall we be happy when we have a lack of water, food and shelter because the population has reached mammoth levels ?
As with most things, the liberal left don't think ahead. They are too wrapped up in some moralistic, ideological fantasy.