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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 May 14 11.31pm
Quote SloveniaDave at 09 May 2014 11.20pm Quote nickgusset at 09 May 2014 11.07pm This sums it up for me. Edited by nickgusset (09 May 2014 11.08pm) While I accept that almost all politicians are suspect, the universal denigration of all of them is unnecessary. You may have a legitimate disagreement with them on policy and you - Nick - more than most. But if we take that level of debate on to your territory, we could just add Scargill and add 'thief/nutter'. I don't think it advances the debate. I think it does. It's a simple way to help some posters adopt stereo typical views of other posters.
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 09 May 14 11.31pm

Quote SloveniaDave at 09 May 2014 11.20pm

Quote nickgusset at 09 May 2014 11.07pm

This sums it up for me.

Edited by nickgusset (09 May 2014 11.08pm)

While I accept that almost all politicians are suspect, the universal denigration of all of them is unnecessary. You may have a legitimate disagreement with them on policy and you - Nick - more than most.

But if we take that level of debate on to your territory, we could just add Scargill and add 'thief/nutter'. I don't think it advances the debate.

I think it does. It's a simple way to help some posters adopt stereo typical views of other posters.

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SloveniaDave Tirana, Albania 09 May 14 11.38pm
Quote nickgusset at 09 May 2014 11.31pm Quote SloveniaDave at 09 May 2014 11.20pm Quote nickgusset at 09 May 2014 11.07pm This sums it up for me. Edited by nickgusset (09 May 2014 11.08pm) While I accept that almost all politicians are suspect, the universal denigration of all of them is unnecessary. You may have a legitimate disagreement with them on policy and you - Nick - more than most. But if we take that level of debate on to your territory, we could just add Scargill and add 'thief/nutter'. I don't think it advances the debate. I think it does. It's a simple way to help some posters adopt stereo typical views of other posters. Well it does of course, if that is your aim. Hardly a solid basis for an extended dialectic debate though, is it? Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. (Member of the School of Optimism 1969-2016 inclusive)
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SloveniaDave

Tirana, Albania 09 May 14 11.38pm

Quote nickgusset at 09 May 2014 11.31pm

Quote SloveniaDave at 09 May 2014 11.20pm

Quote nickgusset at 09 May 2014 11.07pm

This sums it up for me.

Edited by nickgusset (09 May 2014 11.08pm)

But if we take that level of debate on to your territory, we could just add Scargill and add 'thief/nutter'. I don't think it advances the debate.

I think it does. It's a simple way to help some posters adopt stereo typical views of other posters.

Well it does of course, if that is your aim. Hardly a solid basis for an extended dialectic debate though, is it?

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand!

My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.

(Member of the School of Optimism 1969-2016 inclusive)

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PsychoPaul 09 May 14 11.42pm
Quote Willo at 09 May 2014 12.01pm Quote Kermit8 at 09 May 2014 11.56am Nor would I. In one of the many political arguments I have got embroiled in, some oaf said that I was "To the right of Ghengis Khan". !!!! To the right of Ghengis Khan, you mean you're a thatcherite then? I'm so glad the witch is dead!
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PsychoPaul

09 May 14 11.42pm

Quote Willo at 09 May 2014 12.01pm

Quote Kermit8 at 09 May 2014 11.56am

Nor would I.

In one of the many political arguments I have got embroiled in, some oaf said that I was "To the right of Ghengis Khan". !!!!

To the right of Ghengis Khan, you mean you're a thatcherite then?

I'm so glad the witch is dead!

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 May 14 9.44am
Quote PsychoPaul at 09 May 2014 11.42pm To the right of Ghengis Khan, you mean you're a thatcherite then? I'm so glad the witch is dead! Unashamedly a 'Thatcherite'. Your final repulsive comment was beyond the pale.There have been some well-known politicians who have passed away whom I abhored but I would never stoop to the level of expressing my delight at their passing. Anyway, lets return to UKIP and the forthcoming EU election. Edited by Willo (10 May 2014 9.58am)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 May 14 9.44am

Quote PsychoPaul at 09 May 2014 11.42pm

To the right of Ghengis Khan, you mean you're a thatcherite then?

I'm so glad the witch is dead!

Unashamedly a 'Thatcherite'.
Your final repulsive comment was beyond the pale.There have been some well-known politicians who have passed away whom I abhored but I would never stoop to the level of expressing my delight at their passing.
Anyway, lets return to UKIP and the forthcoming EU election.

Edited by Willo (10 May 2014 9.58am)

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Stirlingsays 10 May 14 10.05am
Quote PsychoPaul at 09 May 2014 11.42pm Quote Willo at 09 May 2014 12.01pm Quote Kermit8 at 09 May 2014 11.56am Nor would I. In one of the many political arguments I have got embroiled in, some oaf said that I was "To the right of Ghengis Khan". !!!! To the right of Ghengis Khan, you mean you're a thatcherite then? I'm so glad the witch is dead! Mmmm....That says more about you than it does about her. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

10 May 14 10.05am

Quote PsychoPaul at 09 May 2014 11.42pm

Quote Willo at 09 May 2014 12.01pm

Quote Kermit8 at 09 May 2014 11.56am

Nor would I.

In one of the many political arguments I have got embroiled in, some oaf said that I was "To the right of Ghengis Khan". !!!!

To the right of Ghengis Khan, you mean you're a thatcherite then?

I'm so glad the witch is dead!

Mmmm....That says more about you than it does about her.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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matt_himself Matataland 10 May 14 11.13am
Quote nickgusset at 09 May 2014 11.07pm This sums it up for me. Edited by nickgusset (09 May 2014 11.08pm) Please provide some credible evidence that Nigel Farage is personally a racist to back up your thoughts. Thank you. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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matt_himself

Matataland 10 May 14 11.13am

Quote nickgusset at 09 May 2014 11.07pm

This sums it up for me.

Edited by nickgusset (09 May 2014 11.08pm)

Please provide some credible evidence that Nigel Farage is personally a racist to back up your thoughts.

Thank you.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 May 14 11.30am
No. For me the poster is about supposed general perceptions of each party. That was the point I was making. You claimed earlier that I started this thread just to rile you and castigated me for it. Let me assure you it wasn't. What's interesting is how often you mention me or a couple of other posters names in your post followed by a barbed comment. A tad hypocritical I think. Just to show you I didn't start this thread to rile you, ( my reason for starting it was to chuck a metaphorical hand grenade into general talk) I am not going to respond to you anymore in this thread. Edited by nickgusset (10 May 2014 11.44am)
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 10 May 14 11.30am

No. For me the poster is about supposed general perceptions of each party. That was the point I was making.

You claimed earlier that I started this thread just to rile you and castigated me for it. Let me assure you it wasn't.
What's interesting is how often you mention me or a couple of other posters names in your post followed by a barbed comment. A tad hypocritical I think.
Just to show you I didn't start this thread to rile you, ( my reason for starting it was to chuck a metaphorical hand grenade into general talk) I am not going to respond to you anymore in this thread.

Edited by nickgusset (10 May 2014 11.44am)

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matt_himself Matataland 10 May 14 12.04pm
Quote nickgusset at 10 May 2014 11.30am No. For me the poster is about supposed general perceptions of each party. That was the point I was making. You claimed earlier that I started this thread just to rile you and castigated me for it. Let me assure you it wasn't. What's interesting is how often you mention me or a couple of other posters names in your post followed by a barbed comment. A tad hypocritical I think. Just to show you I didn't start this thread to rile you, ( my reason for starting it was to chuck a metaphorical hand grenade into general talk) I am not going to respond to you anymore in this thread. Edited by nickgusset (10 May 2014 11.44am) The picture you posted specifically stated that Nigel Farage was a racist. You can't back this up with facts. You can take what you want as hypocrisy from me, I don't care. The fact is I have challenged you and the other lefties on here to back up your prejudice on UKIP and you haven't. Your accusation of hypocrisy is frankly pathetic and the last desperate actions of a defeated individual. We know why you aren't going to respond to me on this thread anymore - because we have exposed the massive holes in your prejudiced views. You have been unable to back up your accusations and you have confirmed that you form opinions off the back of any old toot you read off the Internet and use these as 'facts'. Have a good weekend Gusset. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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matt_himself

Matataland 10 May 14 12.04pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 May 2014 11.30am

No. For me the poster is about supposed general perceptions of each party. That was the point I was making.

Edited by nickgusset (10 May 2014 11.44am)

The picture you posted specifically stated that Nigel Farage was a racist. You can't back this up with facts.

You can take what you want as hypocrisy from me, I don't care. The fact is I have challenged you and the other lefties on here to back up your prejudice on UKIP and you haven't. Your accusation of hypocrisy is frankly pathetic and the last desperate actions of a defeated individual.

We know why you aren't going to respond to me on this thread anymore - because we have exposed the massive holes in your prejudiced views.

You have been unable to back up your accusations and you have confirmed that you form opinions off the back of any old toot you read off the Internet and use these as 'facts'.

Have a good weekend Gusset.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Stirlingsays 10 May 14 12.04pm
Apparently net immigration into this country per year is around about the population of the city of Southampton. Those who have supported the immigration (EU) policies of the main parties are partly responsible for the genuine suffering undergone by the mainly working class people of this country. Downgrade in housing chances. Downgrade in public services provision. Downgrade in job chances. For certain jobs, a downgrade in wages. Large sections of the left and some on the right have their heads stuck in the sand and won't be happy until this small island is shoulder to shoulder. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 May 14 12.04pm

Apparently net immigration into this country per year is around about the population of the city of Southampton.

Those who have supported the immigration (EU) policies of the main parties are partly responsible for the genuine suffering undergone by the mainly working class people of this country.

Downgrade in housing chances.
Downgrade in public services provision.
Downgrade in job chances.
For certain jobs, a downgrade in wages.

Large sections of the left and some on the right have their heads stuck in the sand and won't be happy until this small island is shoulder to shoulder.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 May 14 12.16pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 10 May 2014 12.04pm Apparently net immigration into this country per year is around about the population of the city of Southampton. Those who have supported the immigration (EU) policies of the main parties are partly responsible for the genuine suffering undergone by the mainly working class people of this country. Downgrade in housing chances. Downgrade in public services provision. Downgrade in job chances. For certain jobs, a downgrade in wages. Large sections of the left and some on the right have their heads stuck in the sand and won't be happy until this small island is shoulder to shoulder. As I've said, the issue needs to be discussed Stirling. I just don't think UKIP are the right way to go...
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 10 May 14 12.16pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 10 May 2014 12.04pm

Apparently net immigration into this country per year is around about the population of the city of Southampton.

Those who have supported the immigration (EU) policies of the main parties are partly responsible for the genuine suffering undergone by the mainly working class people of this country.

Downgrade in housing chances.
Downgrade in public services provision.
Downgrade in job chances.
For certain jobs, a downgrade in wages.

Large sections of the left and some on the right have their heads stuck in the sand and won't be happy until this small island is shoulder to shoulder.

As I've said, the issue needs to be discussed Stirling. I just don't think UKIP are the right way to go...

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Stirlingsays 10 May 14 12.28pm
Quote nickgusset at 10 May 2014 12.16pm As I've said, the issue needs to be discussed Stirling. I just don't think UKIP are the right way to go... Without Ukip representing these concerns the topic would have continued to be dismissed. Before Ukip all you would hear was the left characterizing these elements as the views of 'bigots'....You'd be called racist and demonised and dismissed. Others would just deny there was even a problem. No other party tackled this issue.....What right do they now have to pretend to care? Edited by Stirlingsays (10 May 2014 12.29pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

10 May 14 12.28pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 May 2014 12.16pm

As I've said, the issue needs to be discussed Stirling. I just don't think UKIP are the right way to go...

Without Ukip representing these concerns the topic would have continued to be dismissed.

Before Ukip all you would hear was the left characterizing these elements as the views of 'bigots'....You'd be called racist and demonised and dismissed. Others would just deny there was even a problem.

No other party tackled this issue.....What right do they now have to pretend to care?

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 May 2014 12.29pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 May 14 12.44pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 10 May 2014 12.28pm Quote nickgusset at 10 May 2014 12.16pm As I've said, the issue needs to be discussed Stirling. I just don't think UKIP are the right way to go... Without Ukip representing these concerns the topic would have continued to be dismissed. Before Ukip all you would hear was the left characterizing these elements as the views of 'bigots'....You'd be called racist and demonised and dismissed. Others would just deny there was even a problem. No other party tackled this issue.....What right do they now have to pretend to care? Edited by Stirlingsays (10 May 2014 12.29pm) I hear you. But there are other parties that are anti eu. Why are they not getting as much coverage? (That said, Dave Nellist of TUSC was on the Daily Politics the other day , though I haven't had a chance to watch it yet)
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 10 May 14 12.44pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 10 May 2014 12.28pm

Quote nickgusset at 10 May 2014 12.16pm

As I've said, the issue needs to be discussed Stirling. I just don't think UKIP are the right way to go...

Without Ukip representing these concerns the topic would have continued to be dismissed.

No other party tackled this issue.....What right do they now have to pretend to care?

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 May 2014 12.29pm)

I hear you. But there are other parties that are anti eu. Why are they not getting as much coverage? (That said, Dave Nellist of TUSC was on the Daily Politics the other day , though I haven't had a chance to watch it yet)

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