Worked out well for average workers wages and workers across the UK

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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It would be interesting to see just how that did work out in terms of wages and employment.
It must also be considered in the context of what would have happened to Britain had Callaghan's capitulation to the unions been allowed to continue into the 80's

I do support 'power to the people' and a government that listens to the electorate.

However, using populism for the benefit of society is what is called for, not arbitrarily punishing a swathe of people for doing something they cannot avoid (in this case being born Muslim). Fairness is what sets apart the civilised world from the uncivilised World. We must not lose our core values.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Very good point. Also, 90% of UK criminals are men. There is a simple argument that says less men, less criminals. There is undeniable logic in that. Let's kick all the men out of the country.

It is a simple argument. It is also a complete logical fallacy.

If you increase the number of people in a population, and those you have added commit crime at the same rate as the population they join, the number of crimes will increase.

If they commit crimes at a lower rate, the number of crimes still increases.

If they commit crimes at a higher rate, the number of crimes still increases.

It's not a question of mitigating existing crime ('throw out all the men, hur-de-hur-hurr'), it is a question of exposing the existing population to further crime, and the added risk of improperly vetting those who would enter the country under false pretenses and then go shoot up a gay nightclub in California.

Now, why those countries? Ask Obama. He chose them. They are not so much as mentioned in the Executive Order. They are, however, the countries listed as exempt (as of 18th February 2016) in the "Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015". Yes, 2015. Under the Obama administration.

You'll recall the outrage and foaming back then about that, right? Oh.

I'd imagine Trump has, in his discussions with Dept Homeland Security, decided to review those exact countries that Obama singled out (Obama designated them 'countries of concern'), and has put a temporary 3-month restriction on entry. Note, that's not a blanket "ban", but a restriction.

Of course, he's just doing what the previous POTUS did for 6 months in 2011. You'll recall the outrage and foaming back then about that, right? Oh.

Tell you what though. This has demonstrated, even more so, the terrifying grip both the media and vested-interest groups like the "Open society foundation" have on people. We're being played. Enjoy your fake news.

Edited by davenotamonkey (29 Jan 2017 2.18pm)

Excellent post - thanks for putting the shock horror 'news' into its rightful context.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]