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7mins Flag In the bush 29 Jul 16 2.54pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Two more cops shot, one dead and one fighting for his life.

 

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7mins Flag In the bush 02 Aug 16 1.19pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Another black woman shot dead in Baltimore. BLM have condemned the shooting as an "systematic attack on people of color".
This poor lady was being arrested for traffic violations, yea she had a shotgun, yea she made threats to kill, I accept that she pointed the gun at a officer and said that she was gonna kill him. My point is, couldn't the police officer have waited until she fired?? Don't get me wrong, I would have shot her, but cops are different they should sacrifice a colleague before deciding to open fire.
I will hear no criticism of the deceased, she is the victim and was totally innocent and shouldn't be held accountable for her actions.

BLACK LIVES MATTER.

 

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dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 02 Aug 16 1.30pm Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Hmmmmmm,.

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johnfirewall Flag 02 Aug 16 6.33pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

I can understand the uproar but I saw a video of a guy being shot in front of his mother after inadvertently answering the door holding a screwdriver presumably in the middle of some DIY, while the death of a criminal with a gun has led to murder of the police.

If they consider themselves in danger (potentially because he was black) then we should look into why they're so inept. I can't understand how anyone could conduct any public service with such inherent hatred.

Conversely there was a particular black cop that gave his account of the vitriol he received from members of his community (criminal or otherwise) due to his profession.

America clearly does has a gun and racism problem but the latter isn't solely responsible for a nation of Chief Wiggums.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 02 Aug 16 6.40pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by 7mins

Another black woman shot dead in Baltimore. BLM have condemned the shooting as an "systematic attack on people of color".
This poor lady was being arrested for traffic violations, yea she had a shotgun, yea she made threats to kill, I accept that she pointed the gun at a officer and said that she was gonna kill him. My point is, couldn't the police officer have waited until she fired?? Don't get me wrong, I would have shot her, but cops are different they should sacrifice a colleague before deciding to open fire.
I will hear no criticism of the deceased, she is the victim and was totally innocent and shouldn't be held accountable for her actions.

BLACK LIVES MATTER.

Your 'debating' has got more childish and pathetic as this thread has gone on.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 02 Aug 16 6.47pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by johnfirewall

I can understand the uproar but I saw a video of a guy being shot in front of his mother after inadvertently answering the door holding a screwdriver presumably in the middle of some DIY, while the death of a criminal with a gun has led to murder of the police.

If they consider themselves in danger (potentially because he was black) then we should look into why they're so inept. I can't understand how anyone could conduct any public service with such inherent hatred.

Conversely there was a particular black cop that gave his account of the vitriol he received from members of his community (criminal or otherwise) due to his profession.

America clearly does has a gun and racism problem but the latter isn't solely responsible for a nation of Chief Wiggums.

A good summary.

 

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7mins Flag In the bush 02 Aug 16 9.29pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Your 'debating' has got more childish and pathetic as this thread has gone on.

Ur mum

 

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johnfirewall Flag 02 Aug 16 9.46pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

Just had a mixed race mate rant about this latest case which on the surface appears pretty f***ed up, only to have a white relative go in to detail of the victims clearly provocative actions.

The plot really does thicken on this one, with a video made by the victim anticipating trouble and loading the shotgun. I'd say 'only in America' but even by their standards it's a highly irregular thing to do unless you're refusing to be arrested without a fight and even the guilty will rather face their chances in court.

 

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nairb75 Flag Baltimore 03 Aug 16 4.37am Send a Private Message to nairb75 Add nairb75 as a friend

Originally posted by johnfirewall

Just had a mixed race mate rant about this latest case which on the surface appears pretty f***ed up, only to have a white relative go in to detail of the victims clearly provocative actions.

The plot really does thicken on this one, with a video made by the victim anticipating trouble and loading the shotgun. I'd say 'only in America' but even by their standards it's a highly irregular thing to do unless you're refusing to be arrested without a fight and even the guilty will rather face their chances in court.

if it's the baltimore one you speak of, that's where i live. reported tonight that she had significant lead poisoning. was a smart girl - went to a STEM school and did well. don't know what happened but she had a bad interaction with police. filmed it, telling her 5 year old to fight the police or something. her mother is on record as being quite concerned.

the area she lived is pretty racially diverse. it's quite middle class and no poor neighborhoods that baltimore city has (a lot). this is an atypical event in that part of town. i can't see this in any racial perspective. by all accounts she was very troubled and the cops did what they could. child is alive with some wounds but should be ok, thankfully.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 03 Aug 16 10.24am

Originally posted by 7mins

Another black woman shot dead in Baltimore. BLM have condemned the shooting as an "systematic attack on people of color".
This poor lady was being arrested for traffic violations, yea she had a shotgun, yea she made threats to kill, I accept that she pointed the gun at a officer and said that she was gonna kill him. My point is, couldn't the police officer have waited until she fired?? Don't get me wrong, I would have shot her, but cops are different they should sacrifice a colleague before deciding to open fire.
I will hear no criticism of the deceased, she is the victim and was totally innocent and shouldn't be held accountable for her actions.

BLACK LIVES MATTER.

You have got a bee up your Khyber pass on BLM haven't you.

Is this the event from the 3rd August, Korryn Gaines. I think you should check the story. Or are you talking about Kisha Arrone?

 


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7mins Flag In the bush 03 Aug 16 12.16pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

You have got a bee up your Khyber pass on BLM haven't you.

Is this the event from the 3rd August, Korryn Gaines. I think you should check the story. Or are you talking about Kisha Arrone?

I've checked the story. She aimed a 12 gauge shotgun at a copper and threatened to kill him, with her son present.
BLM condemned the killing.
BLM is a evil ideology

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 03 Aug 16 12.49pm

Originally posted by 7mins

I've checked the story. She aimed a 12 gauge shotgun at a copper and threatened to kill him, with her son present.
BLM condemned the killing.
BLM is a evil ideology

Actually, the story is a bit more complex, but the police pretty much seemed to do everything right in the Korryn Gaines case.

As a matter of fact, she fired on the police, and was shot in return, I don't think anyone by the most 'ideologically wedded person' would consider the event questionable. Of course there will always be those who will use any event to pursue an agenda, or simply don't trust the police at all.

But on the face of it, you couldn't really ask for a more justified shooting by the police, or better procedure (secure the area, isolate the suspect, negotiate and only resort to lethal force when the issue is pushed by the suspect).

BLM evil, I think that's just pure hyperbole. BLM doesn't seem to be a structured organisation, but a social media movement (I was trying to find their home page etc - and they don't seem to have an official statement).

Still, it should involve an independent enquiry, even when its seemingly obvious what happened.

 


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