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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 05 Nov 22 8.24pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Never said it didn’t happen, I said I doubted it but not impossible. In fact the reasons they were dropped off at Victoria has already been explained

Edited by Spiderman (05 Nov 2022 7.24pm)

You swore on your newly born gds life the home office wouldnt do this! Now saying it did happen!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 05 Nov 22 8.27pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Normal routes are still open abroad. Thousands of Ukrainians were given visas to come and work as fruit and veg pickers. I doubt many of those arriving by dinghy would take up employment in the NHS, just an opinion. I’m not sure how to respond to the rest of your post, as I don’t actually understand it. Although I am assuming you are claiming I have made stuff up and am lying, c’est la vie, whatever. People were dropped off but this has been explained earlier today.
I mentioned the attacks on Border Force Officers as it was relevant to this thread. They were there to assist those arriving, giving out clothes, food etc. So them being assaulted should, imo, be roundly condemned, how wrong I am

Edited by Spiderman (05 Nov 2022 7.23pm)

Edited by Spiderman (05 Nov 2022 7.27pm)

Edited by Spiderman (05 Nov 2022 7.29pm)


Read the posts spider, i never said you were lying- i said one poster on here spouts crap, saying people said something they didn"t say- then when you call him out on it- for the evidence- he says he will let other members find it! THIS IS A DIS GRACE- but its not you!

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Nov 22 8.35pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


Read the posts spider, i never said you were lying- i said one poster on here spouts crap, saying people said something they didn"t say- then when you call him out on it- for the evidence- he says he will let other members find it! THIS IS A DIS GRACE- but its not you!

Apologies for the misunderstanding

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Nov 22 8.38pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

You swore on your newly born gds life the home office wouldnt do this! Now saying it did happen!

I said the HO wouldn’t intentionally dump and abandon them. If you read back, they were taken to Victoria as they had all said that they had family who would meet them. Those whose family did not arrive were taken to a hotel in Norwich. So yes I am standing by my assertion that the HO did not just abandon them.

Edited by Spiderman (05 Nov 2022 8.38pm)

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 05 Nov 22 8.40pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Apologies for the misunderstanding

No worries mate- we move on........

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 05 Nov 22 8.43pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I said the HO wouldn’t intentionally dump and abandon them. If you read back, they were taken to Victoria as they had all said that they had family who would meet them. Those whose family did not arrive were taken to a hotel in Norwich. So yes I am standing by my assertion that the HO did not just abandon them.

Edited by Spiderman (05 Nov 2022 8.38pm)

Yesterdays 5.14 post spider- the HO wouldnt- no intentionally- i wont re post it, but check it yourseld- anyway- forget it -clean slate!

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 Nov 22 9.27pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Yesterdays 5.14 post spider- the HO wouldnt- no intentionally- i wont re post it, but check it yourseld- anyway- forget it -clean slate!

I actually wrote “ do not dump in these circumstances “ . which. Still stand by. The actual circumstances of why they were taken to Victoria have been covered by me and newspaper links. Obviously we will never agree so, clean slate

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 05 Nov 22 9.44pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You obviously cannot precisely measure the intangibles, but you can observe the tangibles, see the impact they are having and make judgements.

You can ignore them if you choose to, and convince yourself all is fine, and would either be worse if there had been no Brexit, or at least the same.

I don't and I suspect nor will most others.

Even the ardent Leavers didn't think the economy would boom after Brexit. It wasn't about that was it? It was about "taking control"! The problem is, we haven't! Brexit is a failure. It's time to accept that and do something about it.

aka guessing.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Nov 22 10.20pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


BBC mentioned suffering from mental illness and ideology- who knew?

You didn't mention that though did you, you went with the ideology.

Yet when it's one of their minority voting groups the left only want to highlight the 'mental illness' and to focus on the ideology becomes an 'ism'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Nov 2022 10.21pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Nov 22 11.12pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

aka guessing.

Only if you believe appraisal of evidence in clear sight to be guesswork.

You guess when you know nothing.

You appraise when you know enough to make a judgment.

 


For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Nov 22 11.29pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You contradict yourself in the very next paragraph.

As for you adapting! All you have ever done is moan about any democratic process you haven't liked, from Trump to Brexit.....and then have the temerity to point at others for not 'embracing change'.

Talk about contradictions, Cyclops was less one eyed.

I often struggle to discern your logic, as now.

As soon as you describe Brexit as a democratic process we partcompany. It wasn’t.

Triggering Article 50 was what gave it legitimacy.

I have never complained that Trump’s election wasn’t democratic, only that it was sufficiently tampered with to cause concern. It’s his behaviour since which seriously threatens democracy.

Although I always thought, and continue to think Brexit was stupid and should have been avoided by Parliament, I have done nothing to try to interfere with it. I just argue for a renegotiation of the deal which would lead to a more sensible future relationship.

I am not just going to sit idly by if circumstances demand that yesterday’ changes don’t suit tomorrow’s needs.

 


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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 06 Nov 22 1.13am Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Apparently when it's a 'right wing terror attack' (where no one actually got hurt and the guy kills himself).....I notice that all of a sudden no one seems to care about mental illness.


Indeed. He wasn't known to counter-terrorism police or the security services before the attack. Yet the report states that Tim Jacques' opinion is "that the suspect's actions were primarily driven by an extremist ideology", without any further explanation, bar the fact that he made some anti Muslim comments on Facebook. I'd like to know how he came to this conclusion.

Edit: I presume he's not Jewish, although looking at him...(just kidding)

Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (06 Nov 2022 1.16am)

 


Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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