Of course I have, thats how I know about the EU army plans.......I guess reading treaties is your hobby, sad as you are......oh and acting all superior!! So did Junker phone you and tell you his plans?? Or do you drink with him?? As you know everything about the EU....

Edited by the silurian (03 Nov 2019 10.06pm)

What a lot has happened in the last week!

Johnson's "deal" failing in Parliament resulting in his do or die deadline being missed. Although he didn't, unsurprisingly, die in his promised ditch.

So now we have an election which I think is the most important of my lifetime as the very future of our country as a united kingdom depends upon it.

On top of that we have had Halloween, an event which has seen the re-emergence from the shadows of the "News/Politics section of the HOL's" own ghoulie. Having thrown his toys out of the pram for a while he wasn't missed as there were plenty of others with just as extreme views able to step in. Great timing though!

The "Brexit" thread has long been a disappointing and depressing read, as it is so dominated by fixed hard right opinions unable to consider alternative viewpoints and just looking for those opinions which confirm their own bias.

This thread looks as though it will be even worse as tribal politics and personal insults are ramping up to even higher levels.

I long gave up any hope of a reasoned debate here let alone of converting anyone to my viewpoint. I fully accept that people are entitled to their opinions, irrespective of how wrong I think they are. There has always been a significant group of hard right, Euro-sceptic types among us. They are just disproportionately represented here. It's not the same elsewhere where more fertile ground, and open minds, can be found.

Posting here might be amusing as it can expose the nonsensical positions that such people hold but amusement is of little value in the coming weeks.

So my efforts will now be concentrated elsewhere, in places where minds can be changed. You might not have noticed but that started a few days ago and will now increase. Insults here will be ignored. I will take a peek from time to time and counter anything really outrageous but I will be active, as my time allows, in other more productive ways. After all we only have a few weeks to save the UK.

So as WE dons his cape and flies off to save the UK by being disliked at other sites I'm sure most of us here will join me in giving him a most appropriate salute as he goes.

What a lot has happened in the last week!

Johnson's "deal" failing in Parliament resulting in his do or die deadline being missed. Although he didn't, unsurprisingly, die in his promised ditch.

So now we have an election which I think is the most important of my lifetime as the very future of our country as a united kingdom depends upon it.

On top of that we have had Halloween, an event which has seen the re-emergence from the shadows of the "News/Politics section of the HOL's" own ghoulie. Having thrown his toys out of the pram for a while he wasn't missed as there were plenty of others with just as extreme views able to step in. Great timing though!

The "Brexit" thread has long been a disappointing and depressing read, as it is so dominated by fixed hard right opinions unable to consider alternative viewpoints and just looking for those opinions which confirm their own bias.

This thread looks as though it will be even worse as tribal politics and personal insults are ramping up to even higher levels.

I long gave up any hope of a reasoned debate here let alone of converting anyone to my viewpoint. I fully accept that people are entitled to their opinions, irrespective of how wrong I think they are. There has always been a significant group of hard right, Euro-sceptic types among us. They are just disproportionately represented here. It's not the same elsewhere where more fertile ground, and open minds, can be found.

Posting here might be amusing as it can expose the nonsensical positions that such people hold but amusement is of little value in the coming weeks.

So my efforts will now be concentrated elsewhere, in places where minds can be changed. You might not have noticed but that started a few days ago and will now increase. Insults here will be ignored. I will take a peek from time to time and counter anything really outrageous but I will be active, as my time allows, in other more productive ways. After all we only have a few weeks to save the UK.

So my efforts will now be concentrated elsewhere, in places where minds can be changed. You might not have noticed but that started a few days ago and will now increase. Insults here will be ignored. I will take a peek from time to time and counter anything really outrageous but I will be active, as my time allows, in other more productive ways. After all we only have a few weeks to save the UK.